Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone saying it’s HER van, like it matters. They were a couple, living together, and outfitted the van together. Good chance it was in her name because insurance was cheaper. I’m sure there are plenty of people here driving a car that is in the other spouses name for some reason, does that not mean it’s not the family car?

We have 5 cars, some titled joint, some titled separate, depending on who was there to sign the papers.

I honestly love that you think having 5 cars titled to “whoever was there” to sign the papers makes you seem intelligent, or like someone who can speak with any kind of authority about this situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone saying it’s HER van, like it matters. They were a couple, living together, and outfitted the van together. Good chance it was in her name because insurance was cheaper. I’m sure there are plenty of people here driving a car that is in the other spouses name for some reason, does that not mean it’s not the family car?

We have 5 cars, some titled joint, some titled separate, depending on who was there to sign the papers.

You go on a road trip with your husband in your blue truck. He drives back home in the blue truck and you are not with him. A week goes by, and your friends haven't seen you and he won't say when he last saw you. Another week goes by. Nothing. What do you want your friends to do at this point? It sounds like you'd be happy for them to say, no biggie, it's his truck too, since that's what you're arguing here.

As long as her obituary mentions that she was blond and athletic, she’s fine with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone saying it’s HER van, like it matters. They were a couple, living together, and outfitted the van together. Good chance it was in her name because insurance was cheaper. I’m sure there are plenty of people here driving a car that is in the other spouses name for some reason, does that not mean it’s not the family car?

We have 5 cars, some titled joint, some titled separate, depending on who was there to sign the papers.

You go on a road trip with your husband in your blue truck. He drives back home in the blue truck and you are not with him. A week goes by, and your friends haven't seen you and he won't say when he last saw you. Another week goes by. Nothing. What do you want your friends to do at this point? It sounds like you'd be happy for them to say, no biggie, it's his truck too, since that's what you're arguing here.

No, what I’m saying is that him returning without her in THEIR cars is suspicious. The fact that it’s titled in HER name is irrelevant. People are tossing it in like it means something. If the van was titled in his name, does that make it less suspicious? No, so being in her name doesn’t make it more so. It’s their car, saying it’s hers like it’s a clue for something is dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone saying it’s HER van, like it matters. They were a couple, living together, and outfitted the van together. Good chance it was in her name because insurance was cheaper. I’m sure there are plenty of people here driving a car that is in the other spouses name for some reason, does that not mean it’s not the family car?

We have 5 cars, some titled joint, some titled separate, depending on who was there to sign the papers.

I honestly love that you think having 5 cars titled to “whoever was there” to sign the papers makes you seem intelligent, or like someone who can speak with any kind of authority about this situation.

Are the vehicles in your household HIS and HERS, or are they the family cars?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the two options are: (1) he killed her, intentionally or accidentally; or (2) they had a fight and he left her somewhere and didn't report her missing. And then something happened.

He doesn't act like he has good sense, so I assume either are possible.

Ok yes. So if we can move past the inane chatter about her being an abuser who shouldn't be on social media, we can center on the real issue, which you have succinctly summarized here: either he abandoned her or killed her. I'm curious whether people think abandoned or killed is more likely?

Let this story be a lesson to all parents of boys: train them and drill it into their heads: if you are on a trip with a gf and want to break up - drive her to a police station or an airport and leave her with security personnel and make sure there are cameras and police witnesses that you left her safe - in public

Do NOT let her walk off alone without witnesses or yiu will be assumed to be her killer for the rest of your life

The girl may have met a foul end - but I am quite certain there are multiple psychos on the loose between Utah and Yellowstone - far more than there are beautiful , vulnerable and not too bright blonde girls

Truly amazing attitude here - first of all, statistically it's unlikely she was killed by a random psycho. It's much, much more likely she was killed by her partner. And second, if you parted ways with your girlfriend and then drove HER van and showed up across the country only to find out she was missing, wouldn't you at least offer the last place you saw her? He hasn't done that and has been totally uncooperative, as has his family.

If he just left her and was thinking she was totally fine, why retain a lawyer? Just in case? Not buying it.

Statistically true for average American woman , but she is waaaay above average - she turns heads, gets noticed in a room , on a street and pretty much every man with a penis wants to F her …plus she is alone , emotionally vulnerable and - straight outa HS with very limited experience with men - total lamb to the slaughter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone saying it’s HER van, like it matters. They were a couple, living together, and outfitted the van together. Good chance it was in her name because insurance was cheaper. I’m sure there are plenty of people here driving a car that is in the other spouses name for some reason, does that not mean it’s not the family car?

We have 5 cars, some titled joint, some titled separate, depending on who was there to sign the papers.

I honestly love that you think having 5 cars titled to “whoever was there” to sign the papers makes you seem intelligent, or like someone who can speak with any kind of authority about this situation.

Are the vehicles in your household HIS and HERS, or are they the family cars?

I’m married to my husband, so our auto insurance policy covers both of us. When we were unmarried, we had individual auto policies.

We also would never ever have driven across the country in the other’s car and then pretended like “Whoops, I must have left him in the Tetons but also I took his phone and car and also I texted his mom pretending to be him”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

Lol - all those people were not trying to kidnap and murder you.

No, but you’d be surprised how many of the men were hoping for sex - that day or one day soon - in other words they were not approaching me to solve global warming or to gain from me government intelligence or the latest stock tip -they just wanted a way into my pants - that day or the next week or month

Some men want it in the next hour and, yes, they might kill you for turning them down

The only way to be safe is to be confident and a brusque “ no thank you “ and on your way - multiple time’s a day for 30 years

Because that one mistake could cost you your life

It's impressive you've survived this long.

Yeah , well not without my MS gym teacher trying to molest me , 2 bosses in my 20’s trying to rape me and 2 stalkers who were arrested outside my home

[Anonymous]

Gabby and Brian are not married. They do. Not own joint assets. It was her van and hers alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gabby and Brian are not married. They do. Not own joint assets. It was her van and hers alone.

And she was not comfortable driving it.

[Anonymous]

What’s your point? Brian still has zero right to drive off in it while also preventing her a ride home in it too.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

Lol - all those people were not trying to kidnap and murder you.

No, but you’d be surprised how many of the men were hoping for sex - that day or one day soon - in other words they were not approaching me to solve global warming or to gain from me government intelligence or the latest stock tip -they just wanted a way into my pants - that day or the next week or month

Some men want it in the next hour and, yes, they might kill you for turning them down

The only way to be safe is to be confident and a brusque “ no thank you “ and on your way - multiple time’s a day for 30 years

Because that one mistake could cost you your life

It's impressive you've survived this long.

Yeah , well not without my MS gym teacher trying to molest me , 2 bosses in my 20’s trying to rape me and 2 stalkers who were arrested outside my home

NP. And yet you’re coming in hard on the side of someone who likely killed his girlfriend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the two options are: (1) he killed her, intentionally or accidentally; or (2) they had a fight and he left her somewhere and didn't report her missing. And then something happened.

He doesn't act like he has good sense, so I assume either are possible.

Ok yes. So if we can move past the inane chatter about her being an abuser who shouldn't be on social media, we can center on the real issue, which you have succinctly summarized here: either he abandoned her or killed her. I'm curious whether people think abandoned or killed is more likely?

Let this story be a lesson to all parents of boys: train them and drill it into their heads: if you are on a trip with a gf and want to break up - drive her to a police station or an airport and leave her with security personnel and make sure there are cameras and police witnesses that you left her safe - in public

Do NOT let her walk off alone without witnesses or yiu will be assumed to be her killer for the rest of your life

The girl may have met a foul end - but I am quite certain there are multiple psychos on the loose between Utah and Yellowstone - far more than there are beautiful , vulnerable and not too bright blonde girls

Truly amazing attitude here - first of all, statistically it's unlikely she was killed by a random psycho. It's much, much more likely she was killed by her partner. And second, if you parted ways with your girlfriend and then drove HER van and showed up across the country only to find out she was missing, wouldn't you at least offer the last place you saw her? He hasn't done that and has been totally uncooperative, as has his family.

If he just left her and was thinking she was totally fine, why retain a lawyer? Just in case? Not buying it.

Statistically true for average American woman , but she is waaaay above average - she turns heads, gets noticed in a room , on a street and pretty much every man with a penis wants to F her …plus she is alone , emotionally vulnerable and - straight outa HS with very limited experience with men - total lamb to the slaughter

Where do you live that a 22 year old pharmacy technician is straight out of high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone saying it’s HER van, like it matters. They were a couple, living together, and outfitted the van together. Good chance it was in her name because insurance was cheaper. I’m sure there are plenty of people here driving a car that is in the other spouses name for some reason, does that not mean it’s not the family car?

We have 5 cars, some titled joint, some titled separate, depending on who was there to sign the papers.

You go on a road trip with your husband in your blue truck. He drives back home in the blue truck and you are not with him. A week goes by, and your friends haven't seen you and he won't say when he last saw you. Another week goes by. Nothing. What do you want your friends to do at this point? It sounds like you'd be happy for them to say, no biggie, it's his truck too, since that's what you're arguing here.

As long as her obituary mentions that she was blond and athletic, she’s fine with that.

LOL yes!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

Lol - all those people were not trying to kidnap and murder you.

No, but you’d be surprised how many of the men were hoping for sex - that day or one day soon - in other words they were not approaching me to solve global warming or to gain from me government intelligence or the latest stock tip -they just wanted a way into my pants - that day or the next week or month

Some men want it in the next hour and, yes, they might kill you for turning them down

The only way to be safe is to be confident and a brusque “ no thank you “ and on your way - multiple time’s a day for 30 years

Because that one mistake could cost you your life

It's impressive you've survived this long.

Yeah , well not without my MS gym teacher trying to molest me , 2 bosses in my 20’s trying to rape me and 2 stalkers who were arrested outside my home

NP. And yet you’re coming in hard on the side of someone who likely killed his girlfriend.

Nope - just my life experience is that young women who look like Gabby are much more likely to attract ALL types of men , including psycho killers ( of which we know there was at least one murderer loose in Moab on Aug 13th ) AND what makes her especially vulnerable is that she was emotionally unstable and living in a vehicle parked in a highly visible place

PP are ignoring that she attracted attention naturally and insisting that the only man in her orbit is/ was Brian and that he is THE killer

To me, that’s ignoring the fact that serial killers exist in America and they are predators

Vast areas of wilderness attract all types of outlaws

Take the lawyer Brian’s family hired out of it and he would have been soiling his guts about their break up on day 1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

Lol - all those people were not trying to kidnap and murder you.

No, but you’d be surprised how many of the men were hoping for sex - that day or one day soon - in other words they were not approaching me to solve global warming or to gain from me government intelligence or the latest stock tip -they just wanted a way into my pants - that day or the next week or month

Some men want it in the next hour and, yes, they might kill you for turning them down

The only way to be safe is to be confident and a brusque “ no thank you “ and on your way - multiple time’s a day for 30 years

Because that one mistake could cost you your life

It's impressive you've survived this long.

Yeah , well not without my MS gym teacher trying to molest me , 2 bosses in my 20’s trying to rape me and 2 stalkers who were arrested outside my home

So, statistically you were more in harm's way with people you knew and trusted. That's why it seems odd that you are arguing ad nauseam that it was likely a stranger because they are lurking everywhere, and not the guy she knew driving the van.