Bowser just announced that starting Saturday indoor mask mandate for everyone 2+

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Anonymous wrote:What is the end game now? Originally, it was to mask and social distance until the vaccines were widely available. Now there seems to be no end in sight. I don’t think “zero covid” is achievable at this point (if it ever was). Hospitals aren’t being overrun. Deaths aren’t high. So what’s the goal here?

This really is the rub, isn't it? We have safe and effective vaccines that over 100,000,000 Americans can get by just walking into a pharmacy with no wait and no appointment yet they refuse to get them. Now Delta is causing severe disease, mostly in the unvaccinated and we have to mask up again. This is, quite literally, never going away. With new variants coming out from time-to-time and anti-vaxers refusing not only the vaccine but no doubt any future boosters against the variants, we will continue to see flare-ups in the country and community. Why should we mask for people that refuse the vaccine? I don't want to mask for them. If we are to mask for them, at least make it based on hospital utilization and not just because the numbers are getting bigger.

I'm not masking for them. I'm masking for people who got vaccinated but don't have robust immunity because they are very elderly, or immunocompromised. I'm masking for kids who can't get vaccinated yet, including my own. And frankly, I just don't think it's that big of a deal. Masking indoors is a fairly minor imposition, all things considered, and if it means that things can be open and school can be in person, I'm completely fine with it. Once kids can be vaccinated, I might feel differently, but right now there is a large group of people who cannot get vaccinated, through no fault of their own. That is going to change, probably by the end of the year.

I can see a an argument to say we are masking for the unvaccinated children (even though they typically get mild covid). Later this year when vaccination is open to them as well, we will continue to see cases flare up and new massive peaks with new immune avoiding variants. This isn’t a temporary thing. COVID will be with us forever now. People need to vaccinate and if they don’t, I shouldn’t modify my life for them.

It is with us because people refuse to behave in a manner that will help us get rid of covid. Thank them.

Our kids are not vaccinated!!! How is it even a question that we should be concerned about their health? They don't have invisible bubbles around them to protect them.

The vaccine is more like a flu shot. You can still catch and transmit covid and its been said since the start of all this. If you don't mind getting covid, great. If you don't mind your kids getting covid, great. But, some of us would prefer not to get covid. We are very tired of people behaving selfishly and then complaining about COVID. If you are living your life as normal, covid has no impact on you so stop complaining.

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Anonymous wrote:The infections are going up in DC b/c poor black people won't get vaccinated.

BINGO

Yep. The demographic no one talks about.

Nice try, pinheads. The numbers of vaccinated people catching Delta, with really high viral loads, are alarming. Don't put that shat on "poor black people."

Instead, maybe your focus should be on vaccine efficacy with vaccinated people.

The vaccines need 70% of the adult population to be truly effective. We've taken too long to get vaccinated. Too many people have been procrastinating for too long. It's not a racial thing because the exact same demographic is the holdout across racial lines. There's lots of blame to go around.

Have you ever thought it’s more of an access problem and a financial problem (eg working multiple jobs, can’t get transportation or time or childcare etc)? I don’t know why pp’s adjective of “black” was necessary in the post other than to spark controversy and continue racism. Being black has nothing to do with the fact that people in wards rife with lower SES and more life challenges compared to other wards having a lower vaccination rate. Yes, the majority of those people happen to be black, but being black has nothing to do with the decision not to vaccinate. So that adjective was totally unnecessary there.

Sure. Whatever you want to believe. So many inner city clinics and outreach programs, and they still have inexcusably low vaccination rates. They are definitely part of the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:The infections are going up in DC b/c poor black people won't get vaccinated.

BINGO

Yep. The demographic no one talks about.

Nice try, pinheads. The numbers of vaccinated people catching Delta, with really high viral loads, are alarming. Don't put that shat on "poor black people."

Instead, maybe your focus should be on vaccine efficacy with vaccinated people.

The vaccines need 70% of the adult population to be truly effective. We've taken too long to get vaccinated. Too many people have been procrastinating for too long. It's not a racial thing because the exact same demographic is the holdout across racial lines. There's lots of blame to go around.

Have you ever thought it’s more of an access problem and a financial problem (eg working multiple jobs, can’t get transportation or time or childcare etc)? I don’t know why pp’s adjective of “black” was necessary in the post other than to spark controversy and continue racism. Being black has nothing to do with the fact that people in wards rife with lower SES and more life challenges compared to other wards having a lower vaccination rate. Yes, the majority of those people happen to be black, but being black has nothing to do with the decision not to vaccinate. So that adjective was totally unnecessary there.

Spoken like someone who is clearly ignorant of history.

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Anonymous wrote:Wish she would have announced mandatory vaccinations for DC govt. employees.

Exactly. The rest is meaningless and stupid. I had to race to Hagerstown to get vaccinated while Bowser held spots open day after day for people who didn’t want to get vaccinated rather than open the spots up to those that did, including that listed as a priority. I was a priority and instead had to flee the district to get vaccinated. Time to tell DC govt employees and teachers - get vaccinated or get fired. Zero chance Bowser has the competence or the balls to do that. Instead the rest of us have to put our masks back on and risks our kids not returning to school. Freaking pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:This may be the final straw for a lot of restaurants. I will abide by the mandate, but I also want a vaccine mandate.

I’m certainly avoiding DC now because of it. My family is visiting from the west coast and we’ll be changing plans to visit MD tourist sites.

Lol. MD tourist sites. That’s cute.

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Anonymous wrote:The infections are going up in DC b/c poor black people won't get vaccinated.

BINGO

Yep. The demographic no one talks about.

Nice try, pinheads. The numbers of vaccinated people catching Delta, with really high viral loads, are alarming. Don't put that shat on "poor black people."

Instead, maybe your focus should be on vaccine efficacy with vaccinated people.

Bullsh*t. The numbers are LOW. DC’s problem is people of color not getting vaccinated. That’s a fact. That doesn’t make me racist for stating fact. Same reason I had to wait for months to get vaccinated while no one in priority zip codes showed up. Also doesn’t she me a racist to be pissed about that. Move along.

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Anonymous wrote:The infections are going up in DC b/c poor black people won't get vaccinated.

BINGO

Yep. The demographic no one talks about.

Nice try, pinheads. The numbers of vaccinated people catching Delta, with really high viral loads, are alarming. Don't put that shat on "poor black people."

Instead, maybe your focus should be on vaccine efficacy with vaccinated people.

The vaccines need 70% of the adult population to be truly effective. We've taken too long to get vaccinated. Too many people have been procrastinating for too long. It's not a racial thing because the exact same demographic is the holdout across racial lines. There's lots of blame to go around.

Have you ever thought it’s more of an access problem and a financial problem (eg working multiple jobs, can’t get transportation or time or childcare etc)? I don’t know why pp’s adjective of “black” was necessary in the post other than to spark controversy and continue racism. Being black has nothing to do with the fact that people in wards rife with lower SES and more life challenges compared to other wards having a lower vaccination rate. Yes, the majority of those people happen to be black, but being black has nothing to do with the decision not to vaccinate. So that adjective was totally unnecessary there.

I call bullsh*t on that too. Anyone in DC can walk into any CVS and get a free shot. Or get a neighbor to drive you. Or get your church group to help you. Or go to your community center. Why isn’t that happening? Because unfortunately people of color are misinformed and fear getting vaccinated. That’s fact. Saying so doesn’t make me racist. That’s why DC’s numbers are high. Grow up, accept facts, and stop accusing the rest of us for being racist for stating fact.

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Anonymous wrote:The infections are going up in DC b/c poor black people won't get vaccinated.

BINGO

Yep. The demographic no one talks about.

Nice try, pinheads. The numbers of vaccinated people catching Delta, with really high viral loads, are alarming. Don't put that shat on "poor black people."

Instead, maybe your focus should be on vaccine efficacy with vaccinated people.

The vaccines need 70% of the adult population to be truly effective. We've taken too long to get vaccinated. Too many people have been procrastinating for too long. It's not a racial thing because the exact same demographic is the holdout across racial lines. There's lots of blame to go around.

Have you ever thought it’s more of an access problem and a financial problem (eg working multiple jobs, can’t get transportation or time or childcare etc)? I don’t know why pp’s adjective of “black” was necessary in the post other than to spark controversy and continue racism. Being black has nothing to do with the fact that people in wards rife with lower SES and more life challenges compared to other wards having a lower vaccination rate. Yes, the majority of those people happen to be black, but being black has nothing to do with the decision not to vaccinate. So that adjective was totally unnecessary there.

I call bullsh*t on that too. Anyone in DC can walk into any CVS and get a free shot. Or get a neighbor to drive you. Or get your church group to help you. Or go to your community center. Why isn’t that happening? Because unfortunately people of color are misinformed and fear getting vaccinated. That’s fact. Saying so doesn’t make me racist. That’s why DC’s numbers are high. Grow up, accept facts, and stop accusing the rest of us for being racist for stating fact.

Also there has been a lot of outreach, even door to door, if someone still somehow has access issues they will literally walk them through the process. I don’t really know what more the DC government can do at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the end game now? Originally, it was to mask and social distance until the vaccines were widely available. Now there seems to be no end in sight. I don’t think “zero covid” is achievable at this point (if it ever was). Hospitals aren’t being overrun. Deaths aren’t high. So what’s the goal here?

This really is the rub, isn't it? We have safe and effective vaccines that over 100,000,000 Americans can get by just walking into a pharmacy with no wait and no appointment yet they refuse to get them. Now Delta is causing severe disease, mostly in the unvaccinated and we have to mask up again. This is, quite literally, never going away. With new variants coming out from time-to-time and anti-vaxers refusing not only the vaccine but no doubt any future boosters against the variants, we will continue to see flare-ups in the country and community. Why should we mask for people that refuse the vaccine? I don't want to mask for them. If we are to mask for them, at least make it based on hospital utilization and not just because the numbers are getting bigger.

I'm not masking for them. I'm masking for people who got vaccinated but don't have robust immunity because they are very elderly, or immunocompromised. I'm masking for kids who can't get vaccinated yet, including my own. And frankly, I just don't think it's that big of a deal. Masking indoors is a fairly minor imposition, all things considered, and if it means that things can be open and school can be in person, I'm completely fine with it. Once kids can be vaccinated, I might feel differently, but right now there is a large group of people who cannot get vaccinated, through no fault of their own. That is going to change, probably by the end of the year.

I can see a an argument to say we are masking for the unvaccinated children (even though they typically get mild covid). Later this year when vaccination is open to them as well, we will continue to see cases flare up and new massive peaks with new immune avoiding variants. This isn’t a temporary thing. COVID will be with us forever now. People need to vaccinate and if they don’t, I shouldn’t modify my life for them.

It is with us because people refuse to behave in a manner that will help us get rid of covid. Thank them.

Our kids are not vaccinated!!! How is it even a question that we should be concerned about their health? They don't have invisible bubbles around them to protect them.

The vaccine is more like a flu shot. You can still catch and transmit covid and its been said since the start of all this. If you don't mind getting covid, great. If you don't mind your kids getting covid, great. But, some of us would prefer not to get covid. We are very tired of people behaving selfishly and then complaining about COVID. If you are living your life as normal, covid has no impact on you so stop complaining.

DP but you are misunderstanding- many of us have done all the right things, followed the rules, got vaccinated and now we hear vaccination isnt enough and it’s frustrating and depressing. And like PP said if this is until kids get vaccinated, ok. But at that point people have made their choice re:the vaccine and should get to choose whether they mask forever or not.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the end game now? Originally, it was to mask and social distance until the vaccines were widely available. Now there seems to be no end in sight. I don’t think “zero covid” is achievable at this point (if it ever was). Hospitals aren’t being overrun. Deaths aren’t high. So what’s the goal here?

The end game is unchanged: herd immunity. We are not there yet because of 100m unvaccinated Americans, including children. This virus is coming for everyone, whether it’s via vaccine or contagion. It’s better to be exposed via vaccine, since the effects are much less severe if you are subsequently infected..

When kids of all ages can get vaccinated, life will resume as before. Until then, we will have regional flare-ups and resumed constraints on activities.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the end game now? Originally, it was to mask and social distance until the vaccines were widely available. Now there seems to be no end in sight. I don’t think “zero covid” is achievable at this point (if it ever was). Hospitals aren’t being overrun. Deaths aren’t high. So what’s the goal here?

The end game is unchanged: herd immunity. We are not there yet because of 100m unvaccinated Americans, including children. This virus is coming for everyone, whether it’s via vaccine or contagion. It’s better to be exposed via vaccine, since the effects are much less severe if you are subsequently infected..

When kids of all ages can get vaccinated, life will resume as before. Until then, we will have regional flare-ups and resumed constraints on activities.

That’s wishful thinking because of the variants. Buckle up.

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Anonymous wrote:This is crazy. Vaccinated people don’t need to mask. End of discussion.

Yes, but they can still catch it because the Detla produces 1,000x as much virus, be asymptomatic, and give it to anti-vax folks! We have to think of the anti-vaxers and live our lives with special protections for them! Also, COVID is here to stay. It's not going to be eliminated from the planet. At some point we have to live our lives like normal. We can't act like this is a plague when 99.7% of deaths are the unvaccinated.

My 10 year old is not anti-vax.

Your 10 year old isn't going to die of COVID. Your 10 year old has a higher chance of drowning. I wish they would approve them for under 12 already. I have a 10 year old too and I'm not worried about death from COVID but I would like a vaccine for him so he wouldn't even get a minor cold (also to shut up all the screaming over-protective parents).

So he wouldn't even get a minor cold.
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Is this still Earth we're living on here?

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DH says we should just let Darwinism take over. Let the MAGA's die off

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Anonymous wrote:DH says we should just let Darwinism take over. Let the MAGA's die off

should be MAGAs

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Anonymous wrote:The infections are going up in DC b/c poor black people won't get vaccinated.

BINGO

Yep. The demographic no one talks about.

Nice try, pinheads. The numbers of vaccinated people catching Delta, with really high viral loads, are alarming. Don't put that shat on "poor black people."

Instead, maybe your focus should be on vaccine efficacy with vaccinated people.

Bullsh*t. The numbers are LOW. DC’s problem is people of color not getting vaccinated. That’s a fact. That doesn’t make me racist for stating fact. Same reason I had to wait for months to get vaccinated while no one in priority zip codes showed up. Also doesn’t she me a racist to be pissed about that. Move along.

I see attached of people of color in DC walking around with masks. I see security officers in buildings in masks. Wasn't that what we were told to do pre-vaccines. Was that not effective in reducing DC's rates? I just wonder since one is talking about DC people of color being the cause of rising rates how this aspect plays into things.