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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


Such an arrogant thing to say.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.


I don't think this is correct. Blair STEM program is as good as TJ but does not get the same attention as TJ because the structure MCPS runs magnets is so different than TJ (i.e., school within a school model vs whole school model of TJ). Also, RM/IB is not humanities program (I know many people do think that). IB is more about "balanced" education than "focused" education like Blair STEM or TJ.

PHS is only "whole" school magnet in MCPS but that's just name sake. Inclusion of ISP kids (local home school kids), makes it less than "whole" school magnet.

yea my RMIB kid's EE is STEM related. DC was kind of shocked at how much writing STEM researchers do.


What is EE? Extended essay?
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.


I don't think this is correct. Blair STEM program is as good as TJ but does not get the same attention as TJ because the structure MCPS runs magnets is so different than TJ (i.e., school within a school model vs whole school model of TJ). Also, RM/IB is not humanities program (I know many people do think that). IB is more about "balanced" education than "focused" education like Blair STEM or TJ.

PHS is only "whole" school magnet in MCPS but that's just name sake. Inclusion of ISP kids (local home school kids), makes it less than "whole" school magnet.

yea my RMIB kid's EE is STEM related. DC was kind of shocked at how much writing STEM researchers do.


What is EE? Extended essay?



Yes, PP is reinforcing the point that RMIB is not a humanities magnet per se. Kids can elect to focus on STEM, but there is more analytical writing and fewer advanced electives than at Blair. I think the analytical writing focus is incredibly useful for college preparation.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


Agree, the breakdown of SAT averages by demographic per high-school released by MCPS showed that Blair had the highest SATs for the largest cohort common to it and any W, and this wasn't Asians so magnet kids weren't a factor.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


A lot of those kids are in IB program.

- dp

-um no they are not.

-parent of RMIB and JWMS kids.


And those kids who cannot get into IB, they attend RM non magnet. They are no different than kids from other MS. You think JW kids are somehow "special"?? LOL.

No, I don't. That's the point. They are no different than the precious W kids whose parents are also lawyers, doctors, etc..

The point is that RM is not ghetto. Give me a break. There are many homes in that cluster that are pricey. Yes, RM has more low income kids than W schools - about 23%. Does that make RM ghetto.

Talk about "special" and arrogant.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.


I don't think this is correct. Blair STEM program is as good as TJ but does not get the same attention as TJ because the structure MCPS runs magnets is so different than TJ (i.e., school within a school model vs whole school model of TJ). Also, RM/IB is not humanities program (I know many people do think that). IB is more about "balanced" education than "focused" education like Blair STEM or TJ.

PHS is only "whole" school magnet in MCPS but that's just name sake. Inclusion of ISP kids (local home school kids), makes it less than "whole" school magnet.

yea my RMIB kid's EE is STEM related. DC was kind of shocked at how much writing STEM researchers do.


What is EE? Extended essay?



Yes, PP is reinforcing the point that RMIB is not a humanities magnet per se. Kids can elect to focus on STEM, but there is more analytical writing and fewer advanced electives than at Blair. I think the analytical writing focus is incredibly useful for college preparation.

yep, exactly.

RMIB doesn't have as many selection of STEM classes like Blair magnet does, but it's not accurate to say that it's purely a humanities program. They can choose to HL physics and CS, for example, which is what DC is doing.

And ITA, all that analytical essay writing has been really helpful for my STEM focused DC.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


A lot of those kids are in IB program.

- dp

-um no they are not.

-parent of RMIB and JWMS kids.


And those kids who cannot get into IB, they attend RM non magnet. They are no different than kids from other MS. You think JW kids are somehow "special"?? LOL.

No, I don't. That's the point. They are no different than the precious W kids whose parents are also lawyers, doctors, etc..

The point is that RM is not ghetto. Give me a break. There are many homes in that cluster that are pricey. Yes, RM has more low income kids than W schools - about 23%. Does that make RM ghetto.

Talk about "special" and arrogant.


You are the one who opened that door.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


A lot of those kids are in IB program.

- dp

-um no they are not.

-parent of RMIB and JWMS kids.


And those kids who cannot get into IB, they attend RM non magnet. They are no different than kids from other MS. You think JW kids are somehow "special"?? LOL.

No, I don't. That's the point. They are no different than the precious W kids whose parents are also lawyers, doctors, etc..

The point is that RM is not ghetto. Give me a break. There are many homes in that cluster that are pricey. Yes, RM has more low income kids than W schools - about 23%. Does that make RM ghetto.

Talk about "special" and arrogant.


They're just another W parent suffering from magnet envy. RMIB is a great school with one of the strongest programs in the entire region.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


Agree, the breakdown of SAT averages by demographic per high-school released by MCPS showed that Blair had the highest SATs for the largest cohort common to it and any W, and this wasn't Asians so magnet kids weren't a factor.


Here we go again. I don't know who this nutcase is, but they're only quoting White SAT scores.

IMHO, Blair isn't what it used to be.

1. The lottery has damaged the Magnet program. The best-of-the-best aren't in the MS magnets anymore, which will start affecting HS magnets, not next year but the year after.
2. If you look at Blair overall, it's one of the lower-middle performing schools in MCPS. Remove about 100 Magnet kids jacking up the scores, and it's really a meh.
3. The Blair crowd isn't going to like this part. They can argue all they want, but college admissions boards look at the stats. Remember that U.S. News looks at the whole school, not just a few classrooms, so I do feel very sorry for the Blair kids applying to college this year.

Whitman made #1 in Maryland and #104 in National rankings this year.
Wootton #2 MD, #167 National
Poolesville #4 MD, #248 National
Churchill #5 MD, #294 National
MCC, RM, WJ, NW, QO, Damascus all scored higher than Blair (#34 in MD, #1,476 in National rankings)

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/rankings

The only score that surprised me was Poolesville. At first, I expected it to be higher than Whitman, but the lightbulb went on when I saw the SAT and AP/IB passing scores. Although Poolesville edged out Whitman in meeting UofMD college entrance requirements, on the national requirements (e.g. SAT, AP/IB), Whitman did spank Poolesville a bit.

Remember that the point of HS is college readiness at the National scale. No one cares what MCPS equity thinks - they care about who is Nationally (and Globally) competitive. In that respect, yes, Whitman is currently #1.
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Anonymous wrote:I remember seeing a more nuanced analysis a few months back of MCPS HS that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up. They listed the SAT averages for the largest cohort common to a few of the top schools and well Blair was ranked highest. One posted tried to attribute this to the 100 person magnet program until another pointed out that the demographic in question had fewer than 30 students in this cohort. Anyway, it is fascinating what you learn when you dig a little deeper.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf


Nah. You're lying. Not sure why you keep reposting this drivel. Guessing you've got a White kid at Blair Magnet?

First of all, this data is from the class of 2017, so it's old.

Second, only 65.2% took the SAT at Blair, compared to 74.6% at Poolesville or 75.2% at Paint Branch. [Table A6.]

Third, 1326 by Whites at Blair wasn't the highest score by race for all of MCPS - it was just the highest at Blair. Poolesville had 1420 by Asians and 1380 by Blacks / African Americans. [Table A8.]

Three strikes. You're out!
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


A lot of those kids are in IB program.

- dp

-um no they are not.

-parent of RMIB and JWMS kids.


And those kids who cannot get into IB, they attend RM non magnet. They are no different than kids from other MS. You think JW kids are somehow "special"?? LOL.

No, I don't. That's the point. They are no different than the precious W kids whose parents are also lawyers, doctors, etc..

The point is that RM is not ghetto. Give me a break. There are many homes in that cluster that are pricey. Yes, RM has more low income kids than W schools - about 23%. Does that make RM ghetto.

Talk about "special" and arrogant.


You are the one who opened that door.


+1. What a dimwit.
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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/


Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ


Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.



The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.


Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.


I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

yea, all those JWMS kids of doctors, lawyers, scientists, IT Professionals.. so ghetto. LOL


Agree, the breakdown of SAT averages by demographic per high-school released by MCPS showed that Blair had the highest SATs for the largest cohort common to it and any W, and this wasn't Asians so magnet kids weren't a factor.


Here we go again. I don't know who this nutcase is, but they're only quoting White SAT scores.

IMHO, Blair isn't what it used to be.

1. The lottery has damaged the Magnet program. The best-of-the-best aren't in the MS magnets anymore, which will start affecting HS magnets, not next year but the year after.
2. If you look at Blair overall, it's one of the lower-middle performing schools in MCPS. Remove about 100 Magnet kids jacking up the scores, and it's really a meh.
3. The Blair crowd isn't going to like this part. They can argue all they want, but college admissions boards look at the stats. Remember that U.S. News looks at the whole school, not just a few classrooms, so I do feel very sorry for the Blair kids applying to college this year.

Whitman made #1 in Maryland and #104 in National rankings this year.
Wootton #2 MD, #167 National
Poolesville #4 MD, #248 National
Churchill #5 MD, #294 National
MCC, RM, WJ, NW, QO, Damascus all scored higher than Blair (#34 in MD, #1,476 in National rankings)

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/rankings

The only score that surprised me was Poolesville. At first, I expected it to be higher than Whitman, but the lightbulb went on when I saw the SAT and AP/IB passing scores. Although Poolesville edged out Whitman in meeting UofMD college entrance requirements, on the national requirements (e.g. SAT, AP/IB), Whitman did spank Poolesville a bit.

Remember that the point of HS is college readiness at the National scale. No one cares what MCPS equity thinks - they care about who is Nationally (and Globally) competitive. In that respect, yes, Whitman is currently #1.




Will you stop with the inaccurate information?! MCPS magnet high schools do not lottery! Sorry your kid didn’t get in.
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I had two kids in the Blair Magnet. My sense is that the MC STEM magnet programs are roughly comparable to TJ in Virginia. The schools may emphasize different things and have different strengths (attributable in part to the individual teachers at each school), but overall the quality is roughly equivalent. I think they all offer incredibly strong programs, with more opportunities than a single student can take advantage of. I think there is probably more student driven variation than caused by program constraints. While individual students may be more or less interested in a STEM subject/field, I think that they can probably pursue their individual interests, at any of these schools, as far as they want (subject to time constraints). I also think that the programs are all well-respected by colleges who, in comparing students between the schools will probably be more swayed by the work the student undertook at the school, than which school they attended.

These are all great kids at great schools. It doesn’t have to be a competition.
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Anonymous wrote:I had two kids in the Blair Magnet. My sense is that the MC STEM magnet programs are roughly comparable to TJ in Virginia. The schools may emphasize different things and have different strengths (attributable in part to the individual teachers at each school), but overall the quality is roughly equivalent. I think they all offer incredibly strong programs, with more opportunities than a single student can take advantage of. I think there is probably more student driven variation than caused by program constraints. While individual students may be more or less interested in a STEM subject/field, I think that they can probably pursue their individual interests, at any of these schools, as far as they want (subject to time constraints). I also think that the programs are all well-respected by colleges who, in comparing students between the schools will probably be more swayed by the work the student undertook at the school, than which school they attended.

These are all great kids at great schools. It doesn’t have to be a competition.


Agree these programs are great. The biggest issue with MCPS is they need to double them. They need more seats at twice the locations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I had two kids in the Blair Magnet. My sense is that the MC STEM magnet programs are roughly comparable to TJ in Virginia. The schools may emphasize different things and have different strengths (attributable in part to the individual teachers at each school), but overall the quality is roughly equivalent. I think they all offer incredibly strong programs, with more opportunities than a single student can take advantage of. I think there is probably more student driven variation than caused by program constraints. While individual students may be more or less interested in a STEM subject/field, I think that they can probably pursue their individual interests, at any of these schools, as far as they want (subject to time constraints). I also think that the programs are all well-respected by colleges who, in comparing students between the schools will probably be more swayed by the work the student undertook at the school, than which school they attended.

These are all great kids at great schools. It doesn’t have to be a competition.


Agree these programs are great. The biggest issue with MCPS is they need to double them. They need more seats at twice the locations.


Pp you quoted, and I completely agree with you. I think we should expand the magnet programs, immersion programs, etc., while also strengthening the base curriculum. I think any student who wants to learn should be given the opportunity.
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