Magnet High Schools

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DP.. and so what if they do study extra harder to get into a competitive magnet?

I used to think like you, but I realized that when a parent hires a coach for a kid to get better in athletics, no one bats an eye, but if they do this for academics, then it's considered terrible. Why? IMO, academics is more important than athletics.

And before you think I hired a tutor for my kids, I have never done so. My DC is in a test in magnet.

Plenty of people bat an eye.

really? How many posts are there on this forum about people making negative comments about hiring private coaches for some sport vs about people hiring tutors for kids who aren't behind academically?

This isn't a sports forum.

so, if you go into the sports forum, how many people do you think make negative comments about parents hiring private coaches for their kids?

Vs the school forum, and how many people like the PP you cut out of the thread who make negative comments about kids who study hard to get into a magnet?

[Anonymous]

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DP.. and so what if they do study extra harder to get into a competitive magnet?

I used to think like you, but I realized that when a parent hires a coach for a kid to get better in athletics, no one bats an eye, but if they do this for academics, then it's considered terrible. Why? IMO, academics is more important than athletics.

And before you think I hired a tutor for my kids, I have never done so. My DC is in a test in magnet.

Plenty of people bat an eye.

really? How many posts are there on this forum about people making negative comments about hiring private coaches for some sport vs about people hiring tutors for kids who aren't behind academically?

This isn't a sports forum.

so, if you go into the sports forum, how many people do you think make negative comments about parents hiring private coaches for their kids?

Vs the school forum, and how many people like the PP you cut out of the thread who make negative comments about kids who study hard to get into a magnet?

It’s not just studying hard if only a small group of students have access to an expert at getting students into magnets. It’s like saying the group of people building a house without the blueprints don’t want to work as hard as the other group that was given the plans.

[Anonymous]

I remember seeing a more nuanced analysis a few months back of MCPS HS that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up. They listed the SAT averages for the largest cohort common to a few of the top schools and well Blair was ranked highest. One posted tried to attribute this to the 100 person magnet program until another pointed out that the demographic in question had fewer than 30 students in this cohort. Anyway, it is fascinating what you learn when you dig a little deeper.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.

LOL

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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS have a school similar to TJ in Virginia? What school would that be?

No. They have magnet programs embedded in different schools. The top three in demand are Blair, Richard Montgomery, and Poolesville. But there are many more.
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/

Are they any good? Is it a difficult process to get in? I had a foster child this year who went to an engineering magnet middle school and I was shocked at how easy her classes were and how bad her teachers were.

Blair magnet is a rough equivalent of TJ. Probably, slightly less rigorous but equally difficult to get in. RM magnet is humanities so can't be compared to TJ.
Don't know much about Poolesville.

No, Blair is definitely more difficult to get in and is honestly a bit more rigorous than TJ

Although smaller Blair has a higher SAT average, Intel scholars, NMSF, members of USA Math & Physics Olympiads and beats the stuffing out of TJ on It's Academic just for fun.

The smaller is the key part. Blair picks the roughly 100 great students out of a similar sized county and TJ picks hundreds every year. They get to dip a lower in the pool due to being lager. That will always dilute your scores. The same effect why Blair has one of the lower SAT scores in the county despite having the program embedded to boost scores and perceptions. The larger school simply drowns out the statistics but one can speculate how low they would rank without importing those almost 100 kids assuming a few make it in form the IB naturally. While Takoma middle puts more kids in the program than any other middle, most of those kids are out of bounds too in the middle magnet except for the 25 set aside seats which were created because local kids were getting squeezed out of the local program by higher testing W kids.

This is where all the prepping accusations come from (because how dare a kids read a book prior to a test, cheaters) and why the East county wants to consider local peer group for admissions to tip the scales in the local favor. Funny part it is a quiet self own to all people who claim to have bought cheaper houses to get a more “better” peer group but turn around and want considerations for not having better peers for their kids.

Wrong, idiot.

Delusional striver. Blair is a joke to everyone outside the DCC. It is the cheap side of town, anyone can go there, most don’t want to.

I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

The magnet kids go back home and tell stories about how ghetto the local kids are and the crazy stuff they have seen. Don’t believe me? Take a Blair kids word for it. Blair is so proud of the program but it was given to them because the school was consider a lost cause other wise
https://medium.com/@samanthaxcody/magnet-programs-segregation-and-the-anti-blackness-of-the-asian-model-minority-myth-7790df0fb00a" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://medium.com/@samanthaxcody/magnet-programs-segregation-and-the-anti-blackness-of-the-asian-model-minority-myth-7790df0fb00a

[Anonymous]

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I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

Interesting.. I didn't realize JWMS was considered a ghetto school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I remember seeing a more nuanced analysis a few months back of MCPS HS that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up. They listed the SAT averages for the largest cohort common to a few of the top schools and well Blair was ranked highest. One posted tried to attribute this to the 100 person magnet program until another pointed out that the demographic in question had fewer than 30 students in this cohort. Anyway, it is fascinating what you learn when you dig a little deeper.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You gloss over the 98% of the kids there who aren’t upper middle class magnet kids shipped in form OOB. That is the cohort represented in your misleading tallies, yes the magnet kids test well but they do not reflect the school overall like the general score from the other schools you listed which should be noted is most likely where those high scoring Blair kids most likely live near like most of the other magnet kids

We get it you’re proud of your white and Asian savior kids but the conversation is about the schools very low over all test scores. Those other schools you listed don’t have to bus their test scores in

[Anonymous]

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I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

Interesting.. I didn't realize JWMS was considered a ghetto school.

The things one learns on DCUM!

[Anonymous]

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so, if you go into the sports forum, how many people do you think make negative comments about parents hiring private coaches for their kids?

Vs the school forum, and how many people like the PP you cut out of the thread who make negative comments about kids who study hard to get into a magnet?

Likely because people don't generally go to the sports forum to tell other people that they (the other people) are horrible parents. Whereas that is one of the main topics of the MCPS forum.

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so, if you go into the sports forum, how many people do you think make negative comments about parents hiring private coaches for their kids?

Vs the school forum, and how many people like the PP you cut out of the thread who make negative comments about kids who study hard to get into a magnet?

Likely because people don't generally go to the sports forum to tell other people that they (the other people) are horrible parents. Whereas that is one of the main topics of the MCPS forum.

and that is exactly my point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I remember seeing a more nuanced analysis a few months back of MCPS HS that attempted to isolate for socioeconomic differences to see how these schools stack up. They listed the SAT averages for the largest cohort common to a few of the top schools and well Blair was ranked highest. One posted tried to attribute this to the 100 person magnet program until another pointed out that the demographic in question had fewer than 30 students in this cohort. Anyway, it is fascinating what you learn when you dig a little deeper.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Churchill 1257

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

You gloss over the 98% of the kids there who aren’t upper middle class magnet kids shipped in form OOB. That is the cohort represented in your misleading tallies, yes the magnet kids test well but they do not reflect the school overall like the general score from the other schools you listed which should be noted is most likely where those high scoring Blair kids most likely live near like most of the other magnet kids

We get it you’re proud of your white and Asian savior kids but the conversation is about the schools very low over all test scores. Those other schools you listed don’t have to bus their test scores in

On the contrary, their point is that there aren't good or bad schools as some might have you believe. This perfectly illustrates that the same kid will do the same at any of these schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
so, if you go into the sports forum, how many people do you think make negative comments about parents hiring private coaches for their kids?

Vs the school forum, and how many people like the PP you cut out of the thread who make negative comments about kids who study hard to get into a magnet?

Likely because people don't generally go to the sports forum to tell other people that they (the other people) are horrible parents. Whereas that is one of the main topics of the MCPS forum.

and that is exactly my point.

Your point is that people are less egregiously awful on the sports forum?

[Anonymous]

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I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

Interesting.. I didn't realize JWMS was considered a ghetto school.

The things one learns on DCUM!

which is why one should always take what they read on here with a grain of salt.

Many RM parents move into the cluster because of the RM IB magnet program. These parents are upper middle class. We are such a family, and I know several families like us. Many of our kids are in RMIB.

DCUM has a schizo personality. On another thread about New Market vs Rockville (RM cluster), someone pointed out that RM cluster is considered UMC.

Yet, here we have a different poster claiming that RM is in the ghetto. I think this poster just doesn't like how many black/brown/poor kids there are in RM cluster. Such a person should probably stay out of Rockville which is one of the most diverse cities in the country.

[Anonymous]

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I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

Interesting.. I didn't realize JWMS was considered a ghetto school.

Your point is just because JWMS kids feed to RM, it can't be bad?

Did you take an idiot pill this morning?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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I think this applies to RM and Blair both. Without magnets, these two are basically ghetto schools. PHS, I suppose, is fine either way.

Interesting.. I didn't realize JWMS was considered a ghetto school.

Your point is just because JWMS kids feed to RM, it can't be bad?

Did you take an idiot pill this morning?

PP, it's a nice morning. Maybe if you went for a walk, you would feel better.