I'm an Anti-Vaxxer, Which Vax Should I Get?

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Anonymous wrote:Perversely, I’m going to go with J&J. My trust in the public health authorities is so low at this point, the fact that they seem to want to push people toward the mRNA vaccines makes me want to do the opposite. YMMV, of course.

That's... interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Pfizer. I got Moderna but the rest of my family got Pfizer and they all had a little easier time with the second dose than I did. Also with Pfizer you get it done faster.

+1 Seems like your resounding answer. Now it is on you.

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Anonymous wrote:Anecdotally, Pfizer seems to have a bit less side effects among people I know who got it. And only 3 weeks between shots so you have it over with faster. And Pfizer is an older, more established company which may give you some extra piece of mind.

My anecdotal data is the opposite, which seems strange since Moderna is a lower dose of the mRNA.

I would personally go with Moderna because it was tested on a more diverse group of people and because I trust a public-private collaboration (Moderna- Ih) more than a purely private effort (BIONTECH-Pfizer). That said, Dr. Katalin Kariko who developed the technology works for BioNTech and they were the first to patent the tech, which Moderna then licensed.

So, OP, they truly are very similar.

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Anonymous wrote:Did OP ever clarify what the “near death” side effects were? I may have missed it.

He was pale and laid the eff up for 2 days.

This would make me nervous too. My husband was down for 36hrs and he never ever gets sick or complains. I was worried too. It’s just strange to me how significant these reactions are. Unlike any other vaccine

Actually a lot of vaccines have these kinds of side effects. The shingles vaccine can be brutal in people. I remember the first time I ever got a flu shot, I felt ill for days. I get a flu shot every year and it was fine ever since then, but that first year was rough. My DH got the flu mist this year for the first time ever (he's a needlephobe, and though he has gotten the COVID vaccine, he avoids needles when he can) and it knocked him off his ass! A healthy, fit, 46 year old man, from a MIST!

So yes, a lot of vaccines you get for the first time can do this.

Was just going to post this. My husband recently got his first shingles shot, and he was out of commission for about 36 hours: exhausted, headache-y, sore. He slept a ton. It’s normal!

My 75 year old mother spiked a fever and flu like symptoms with the Shingles vaccine, never complained of anything but some minor injection site discomfort, and only when asked, from the Pfizer vaccine. I also had Pfizer and was slightly fatigued with the first and nothing with the second. I’d also mention my allergies are pretty significant in the spring so my immune system is already running hard right now, and again nothing when I got shot two, last week.

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You have a good reason to be anti-vax. Which is fear. Some people have dumb reasons. I know someone who said, this is just the beginning of Big Brother monitoring everything you do. Tracking you and everything else.

I said, I think google and Amazon tracks you and your habits better than anyone so far.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a good reason to be anti-vax. Which is fear. Some people have dumb reasons. I know someone who said, this is just the beginning of Big Brother monitoring everything you do. Tracking you and everything else.

I said, I think google and Amazon tracks you and your habits better than anyone so far.

Fear is absolutely not a good reason. It’s not a rational fear.

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Anonymous wrote:You have a good reason to be anti-vax. Which is fear. Some people have dumb reasons. I know someone who said, this is just the beginning of Big Brother monitoring everything you do. Tracking you and everything else.

I said, I think google and Amazon tracks you and your habits better than anyone so far.

Fear is absolutely not a good reason. It’s not a rational fear.

No, its not unreasonable to be fearful of the vaccine. You are just a bully who thinks everyone should do what you say without question.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m same OP. But yes will get this vaccine. I’m not anti vaxx tho .... just very thorough in my thought process of modern medicine. I have seen many drs not take their “do no harm” oath seriously enough.

I’m leaning towards J&J but I have no tendency towards blood clots ... and I was under the impression the mRNA also have a clot risk. Although rare for all around.

I would say Pfizer over Moderna, no question

I worry if there are other reasons why they pulled the JJ off the market. I like the one and done but it just seems risky. My doctors couldn't give me advice either way with the medications I'm on as the medications are new, few people on them and the vaccines are new. It was very scary to take my first dose but Pfizer was fine.

They didn't pull J&J off the market - they paused it to find out more. They ended up finding 15 cases instead of 7, out of 1.4 million women. They also had time to get the word out to drs. that if a patient shows up to your office or to the ER, do not treat the traditional way.

That said, there are 2 other great options out there so I'm not pushing J&J, just wanted to clarify that.

15 is 15 too many for me. Its easy to minimize it when its not you having the reaction.

My lord. So you never leave your house (lightening strike)? Never drive (crash), never take medication of any kind (side effects), don’t drink alcohol (liver damage, poisoning), never fly anywhere (crash)? I mean do you even eat (risk of choking)? I mean, 5000 people died from choking in 2018. That’s 5000 too many for me. It’s easy to minimize death from choking when it’s not you choking to death on your lunch, right PP?

What is your point? Keep to the discussion and if you have nothing helpful to say start your own thread.