Stop hating on gifted kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks here keep talking about the top 2% of IQs. You all realize that’s about 132+, right? Isn’t that roughly the cutoff for AAP?


About half of the kids in AAP did not meet the pool cutoff and are in via parent referrals. For the other kids, CogAT and NNAT are used rather than real IQ tests. Both CogAT and NNAT are especially vulnerable to prepping, so the scores in FCPS or any high SES area are inflated.
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Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?


So you really think gifted isn't directly related to all the extras that children receive from their parents?


I believe in science! Do you?


I do! https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/do-iq-tests-actually-measure-intelligence



Good, because allison-whitten is not a scientist! Discover Magazine is not a scientific journal, and this is just a poor summary of a lot of research.


You are right--she is the author of the article, dummy.


You are really stupid. That is the point, the author is a nobody. Now why would we take scientific advice from a poor summarizer?
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You like believing in pseudoscience. Who knows what else you believe in! Believe in Alison.
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Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?


So you really think gifted isn't directly related to all the extras that children receive from their parents?


I believe in science! Do you?


I do! https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/do-iq-tests-actually-measure-intelligence



Good, because allison-whitten is not a scientist! Discover Magazine is not a scientific journal, and this is just a poor summary of a lot of research.


You are right--she is the author of the article, dummy.


You are really stupid. That is the point, the author is a nobody. Now why would we take scientific advice from a poor summarizer?


And who the f*ck are you, PP? A NOBODY.
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Anonymous wrote:Folks here keep talking about the top 2% of IQs. You all realize that’s about 132+, right? Isn’t that roughly the cutoff for AAP?


About half of the kids in AAP did not meet the pool cutoff and are in via parent referrals. For the other kids, CogAT and NNAT are used rather than real IQ tests. Both CogAT and NNAT are especially vulnerable to prepping, so the scores in FCPS or any high SES area are inflated.


Thanks for the info. Seems like a really flawed system.
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Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?


So you really think gifted isn't directly related to all the extras that children receive from their parents?


I believe in science! Do you?


I do! https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/do-iq-tests-actually-measure-intelligence



Good, because allison-whitten is not a scientist! Discover Magazine is not a scientific journal, and this is just a poor summary of a lot of research.


You are right--she is the author of the article, dummy.


You are really stupid. That is the point, the author is a nobody. Now why would we take scientific advice from a poor summarizer?


And who the f*ck are you, PP? A NOBODY.


I am somebody who told you who you truly are!
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Ain't nobody hating on no kids here, gifted or regular!
We'sa been hating on pompous arses like you op!
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I feel so sorry for your kids.
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Anonymous wrote:I feel so sorry for your kids.


Adding.....to have you as a parent.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, if your kid was really one of the 2% "gifted" children, you wouldn't be posting this. I suspect that you have spent a lot of time and money on test prep and want a return on your investment. I'm sure your kid is smart and you should spend more time figuring out how to maximize their opportunities within the school system...or go private.


I am op. As it happens, my kids are profoundly gifted, in AAP, and without any prep whatsoever (unless you call Legos and other toys prep.)

I had such high hopes that the AAP program would serve my children adequately, and waited so eagerly for it, and it doesn’t. We’re still in public school, because so far we think that there is a real life benefit there, such as being around all kinds of kids, as we believe that everyone has something valuable to offer. Having said that, AAP is a joke, and it’s only gonna get worse. No one is thinking of the real gifted kids, and they’re pretending to care by abolishing AAP. What needs to be done is more differentiation, so the really smart kids can be served, which is also their constitutional right. I don’t care if it’s not economical to do so. We serve the mentally handicapped because it’s the humane thing to do, but let the gifted fall through the cracks because it’s not economically feasible.

I’m so surprised to read all the hate for AAP kids in all those other threads. You’re not well equipped and qualified to know who is gifted and who isn’t. This area is full of gifted parents, who only naturally would have more gifted kids than the general population. You can’t compare the gifted rate of rural America to the ultra urban environment we live in.

The point is to serve all the kids, not to compromise. The gifted kids do move the wheel forward in their respective areas: science, leadership, etc. The rest are followers. There is nothing wrong with being a follower, but so many teach their kids that they are snowflakes that’ll never fall.


No. You are wrong about this.
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Anonymous wrote:There is so much hate for gifted kids in this form.

This clearly reflects the sentiment you all have in real life.

Gifted kids need an appropriate education, and unfortunately they’re not receiving it from public schools in the Dc area. Every aspect of education is being watered down, and aap is no exception.

So many of you share the sentiment that if you didn’t like it, go to private. That’s just plain hate and jealousy.

Gifted kids are the ones who turn the wheel forward. Stop trying to hold them back.


if your kids are anything like you, I can't imagine why they would have trouble socially



Let me guess... because your kids are like you? Trying to bully whoever appears just a bit different whenever they get a chance?

DP. Wow! This op is just a firecracker! If her kiddo is "gifted" it sure isn't because of OP's genes! LOL, look in the mirror OP! Accusing someone of being a bully! LOL! LOL! LOL!
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Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?


So you really think gifted isn't directly related to all the extras that children receive from their parents?


I believe in science! Do you?


I do! https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/do-iq-tests-actually-measure-intelligence



Good, because allison-whitten is not a scientist! Discover Magazine is not a scientific journal, and this is just a poor summary of a lot of research.


You are right--she is the author of the article, dummy.


You are really stupid. That is the point, the author is a nobody. Now why would we take scientific advice from a poor summarizer?


And who the f*ck are you, PP? A NOBODY.


I am somebody who told you who you truly are!


You have lost your way, PP.
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Anonymous wrote:There is so much hate for gifted kids in this form.

This clearly reflects the sentiment you all have in real life.

Gifted kids need an appropriate education, and unfortunately they’re not receiving it from public schools in the Dc area. Every aspect of education is being watered down, and aap is no exception.

So many of you share the sentiment that if you didn’t like it, go to private. That’s just plain hate and jealousy.

Gifted kids are the ones who turn the wheel forward. Stop trying to hold them back.


if your kids are anything like you, I can't imagine why they would have trouble socially



Let me guess... because your kids are like you? Trying to bully whoever appears just a bit different whenever they get a chance?

DP. Wow! This op is just a firecracker! If her kiddo is "gifted" it sure isn't because of OP's genes! LOL, look in the mirror OP! Accusing someone of being a bully! LOL! LOL! LOL!


This was not my post, and I’m not saying it as a form of excuse, just to illustrate how ridiculous you and your assumptions are. Don’t laugh so hard. It’s pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:How do you know they are truly gifted or their parents just afforded them all the advantages of tutors, extra curricular activities, etc. that some other kids didn't get? Please.


If you believe in science, science tells you that you can’t prep for an IQ test. That’s science. It’s the same science that tells us that we are genetically the same regardless of race. Now if you don’t believe in science, that’s your problem.


The post wasn't about IQ tests. Reading is fundamental...


In your case writing is more than fundamental. I guess because of your subpar skills, that’s how you know White privilege is real.

The thread is about gifted kids. You’re talking about prepping. Giftedness so far is measured with IQ. What prepping are you talking about?


So you really think gifted isn't directly related to all the extras that children receive from their parents?


I believe in science! Do you?


I do! https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/do-iq-tests-actually-measure-intelligence



Good, because allison-whitten is not a scientist! Discover Magazine is not a scientific journal, and this is just a poor summary of a lot of research.


You are right--she is the author of the article, dummy.


You are really stupid. That is the point, the author is a nobody. Now why would we take scientific advice from a poor summarizer?


And who the f*ck are you, PP? A NOBODY.


I am somebody who told you who you truly are!


You have lost your way, PP.


Which pp are you talking to, to the f*ing one?
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Anonymous wrote:There is so much hate for gifted kids in this form.

This clearly reflects the sentiment you all have in real life.

Gifted kids need an appropriate education, and unfortunately they’re not receiving it from public schools in the Dc area. Every aspect of education is being watered down, and aap is no exception.

So many of you share the sentiment that if you didn’t like it, go to private. That’s just plain hate and jealousy.

Gifted kids are the ones who turn the wheel forward. Stop trying to hold them back.


if your kids are anything like you, I can't imagine why they would have trouble socially



Let me guess... because your kids are like you? Trying to bully whoever appears just a bit different whenever they get a chance?

DP. Wow! This op is just a firecracker! If her kiddo is "gifted" it sure isn't because of OP's genes! LOL, look in the mirror OP! Accusing someone of being a bully! LOL! LOL! LOL!


This was not my post, and I’m not saying it as a form of excuse, just to illustrate how ridiculous you and your assumptions are. Don’t laugh so hard. It’s pathetic.

You'sa bee funny, betcha, betcha?
Whole thread is laughing at you op, little hint... not bcs they find me pathetic!
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