Stop hating on gifted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't feel like 130 is gifted. that's 15 points from just average. I doubt 130 IQ people are making my whole life possible, and I should be on here adulating them - and any low emotional IQ mom of said 130 ish IQ kid who sounds disordered on here. omg. This is hilarious. Parents like this are setting their kids up for a personality disorder. I'm sure a 7 year old IQ score of 130 or whatever is a great indicator for how life turns out. Sorry, no adulation and gratitude for bringing your precious one to this earth for all of humanity forthcoming.

Well, turns out that it doesn’t really matter what you “feel.” A 130+ IQ represents the top 2.3% of people in the world, from an intelligence standpoint.

Also, average is 100, so it’s 30 points from average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't feel like 130 is gifted. that's 15 points from just average. I doubt 130 IQ people are making my whole life possible, and I should be on here adulating them - and any low emotional IQ mom of said 130 ish IQ kid who sounds disordered on here. omg. This is hilarious. Parents like this are setting their kids up for a personality disorder. I'm sure a 7 year old IQ score of 130 or whatever is a great indicator for how life turns out. Sorry, no adulation and gratitude for bringing your precious one to this earth for all of humanity forthcoming.

Well, turns out that it doesn’t really matter what you “feel.” A 130+ IQ represents the top 2.3% of people in the world, from an intelligence standpoint.

Also, average is 100, so it’s 30 points from average.

1) Average range is 85 to 115. it is a range.

2) I'm well above 130. And verily, among peers in an honors science program in college, I felt not so special. But I suppose I do "feel" smarter than most people, like on here. I do not, however, make the whole world go round or expect any worship by my intellectual inferiors.

[Anonymous]

Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Honest question: what does “grok” mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Honest question: what does “grok” mean?

It’s a kinky sex practice. Like I “grokked” your mom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Honest question: what does “grok” mean?

It’s a kinky sex practice. Like I “grokked” your mom.

Got it. Yeah, wasn’t expecting that in this thread, haha!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Maybe I need to find a higher IQ person near the ceiling to engage with. lonely at top of mountain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Honest question: what does “grok” mean?

It’s a kinky sex practice. Like I “grokked” your mom.

Hey! Kinky sex lover! This is what google says:

grok
/ɡräk/
verbINFORMAL•US
understand (something) intuitively or by empathy.
"because of all the commercials, children grok things immediately"
empathize or communicate sympathetically; establish a rapport.
"nestling earth couple would like to find water brothers to grok with in peace"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Honest question: what does “grok” mean?

It's from the book Stranger in a Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein. Maybe some of the geniuses here need to read a book!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

Honest question: what does “grok” mean?

It’s a kinky sex practice. Like I “grokked” your mom.

Got it. Yeah, wasn’t expecting that in this thread, haha!

That was a joke.

It means to know or understand completely. Also to eat.

[Anonymous]

Normally, 130 IQ is +2SD/97.5th percentile and 145 IQ is +3SD/99.9th percentile. If we assume that FCPS has twice as many gifted kids as expected by national norms, then approximately 5% of FCPS kids have a 130+ IQ and 0.2% (1 in 500) have a 145+ IQ.

AAP takes 20%, so 1/4 of the kids in AAP would then have a 130+ IQ, and 1/100 would have a 145+ IQ.

Generally speaking, let's say the AAP center has 4 classes, each with 25 kids. About 6 kids per classroom are actually gifted, and only 1 kid in the entire grade is highly gifted. The remaining 19 kids per class in AAP are bright but not gifted.

If most of the kids have an IQ from 115-129, and the rest have an IQ in the 130-144 range, the 145+ kid is still going to seem like a weird outlier to the other kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Normally, 130 IQ is +2SD/97.5th percentile and 145 IQ is +3SD/99.9th percentile. If we assume that FCPS has twice as many gifted kids as expected by national norms, then approximately 5% of FCPS kids have a 130+ IQ and 0.2% (1 in 500) have a 145+ IQ.

AAP takes 20%, so 1/4 of the kids in AAP would then have a 130+ IQ, and 1/100 would have a 145+ IQ.

Generally speaking, let's say the AAP center has 4 classes, each with 25 kids. About 6 kids per classroom are actually gifted, and only 1 kid in the entire grade is highly gifted. The remaining 19 kids per class in AAP are bright but not gifted.

If most of the kids have an IQ from 115-129, and the rest have an IQ in the 130-144 range, the 145+ kid is still going to seem like a weird outlier to the other kids.

So, can we agree that being in AAP does not mean your child has been identified as "gifted" but just an accelerated or advanced learner. Thus, hating on AAP is not hating on gifted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

The fact that you use the bolded word speaks volumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Average (mean) is, by definition 100.

85-115 is mean +/- 1 Standard Deviation (15)

68% of the western population is within that range. Probably more in FFX Co due to assortment.

95% within +/- 2 SD (70-130). Only 2.3% of the western world's population is above 130. 130 is pretty exceptional.

99.7% is within +/1 3SD (55-145). Only 0.15% is above 145. The tests pretty much ceiling out here, there's so few people to normalize tests against above here.

People only really 'grok' others within 1 or 2 SDs of themselves. A 145 IQ person is as far from 'normal' as a mildly retarded 55 IQ person.

The fact that you use the bolded word speaks volumes.

Volumes of what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Normally, 130 IQ is +2SD/97.5th percentile and 145 IQ is +3SD/99.9th percentile. If we assume that FCPS has twice as many gifted kids as expected by national norms, then approximately 5% of FCPS kids have a 130+ IQ and 0.2% (1 in 500) have a 145+ IQ.

AAP takes 20%, so 1/4 of the kids in AAP would then have a 130+ IQ, and 1/100 would have a 145+ IQ.

Generally speaking, let's say the AAP center has 4 classes, each with 25 kids. About 6 kids per classroom are actually gifted, and only 1 kid in the entire grade is highly gifted. The remaining 19 kids per class in AAP are bright but not gifted.

If most of the kids have an IQ from 115-129, and the rest have an IQ in the 130-144 range, the 145+ kid is still going to seem like a weird outlier to the other kids.

So, can we agree that being in AAP does not mean your child has been identified as "gifted" but just an accelerated or advanced learner. Thus, hating on AAP is not hating on gifted kids.

Again, this thread is not about AAP, but hating on AAP does hinder gifted kids, because even though the AAP program is not sufficient for them, it’s the best the gifted kids have as far as the public school system goes.