Letter to Brearly Parents Decrying CRT Indoctrination

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also wanted to add that education on how our country was formed-the truth-makes sense. The ongoing narrative of every White person is entitled is not accurate or positive for moving our country in an include manner.

How is that an "ongoing narrative?" You are just making stuff up.

wow have you been paying attention at all?

[Anonymous]

Bari Weiss has garbage takes. Not even worth discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also wanted to add that education on how our country was formed-the truth-makes sense. The ongoing narrative of every White person is entitled is not accurate or positive for moving our country in an include manner.

Is that the narrative? I thought the narrative was to understand how our country was formed- the truth as you say- and understand how that history continues to shape the world we live in today and speak up about it. That’s it. It’s not personal. It’s not about you. No one says every white person is entitled. This is classic white defensiveness and centering yourself. It’s asking white people to recognize we continue to benefit from the systems that were intentionally put in place for white people to benefit, even if the laws are no longer explicitly racist.

Further, this part of the letter kills me - systemic racism is over. You’re going to rig the system for 350 years and then say whoops never mind, our bad, sorry...and then it’s just a level playing field and everyone should shut up about it and go do their best because now it’s all fixed? It might be more complicated than that. Just a thought.

ok then provide some specific examples of systemic or systematic racism? Racism is definitely real. But people consistently use the systematic adjective without truly understanding what that means.

also the narrative is definitely white privilege. If you don't think that is true then you haven't been paying attention. It is not helping at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The letter is full of cliches, hyperbole, and Fox News talking points.

I’m sure how Brearly is reckoning with its legacy and reputation leaves much to be desired, but this is a rather simplistic letter. No new ideas here. Little nuance.

And he doesn’t use the Oxford comma.

ITA

Actually, it is full of specific examples of the author's point. Did you even read it? It is the HOS response that is laughable - some vague reference to students being "afraid" because someone dared to send out a letter questioning their sacred-held POV.

I read every word. I didn’t read the Head’s response. I’m sure it’s cringe worthy, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think Brearley will be better off without this dad and his daughter. The letter uses all the buzz words of the far-right political community: comparing the school to the Chinese Communist Revolution, claiming that Black Lives Matter is a "Marxist, anti family, heterophobic, anti-Asian and anti-Semitic organization," claiming the school is "trying to usurp the role of parents in teaching morality," and, of course, lamenting "cancel culture." He also does not share one example of what he laments that the school is doing. And to say that there has been no systemic racism in the United States since the civil rights movement in the 1960's is just laughable.

The best part of the letter is this: "I object to the lowering of standards for the admission of students and for the hiring of teachers. I object to the erosion of rigor in classwork and the escalation of grade inflation. Any parent with eyes open can foresee these inevitabilities should antiracism initiatives be allowed to persist." he has absolutely no idea if the admissions department has lowered their standards - he just assumes so since they have tried to admit a more diverse student body. But, of course, he could never be accused of being racist for thinking so.

The letter is getting tons of praise in conservative circles and is all over conservative media. I'm not so sure its such a great lettertthat they all think it is.

You sound like a CRT apparatchik and, therefore, actually (if unintentionally) underscore the points in the parent’s letter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am tired of being an open minded liberal just trying to exchange views and get conservatives to see my side and explain theirs to me when today's conservatives are QAnon and Fox News lobotomized robots who don't understand history and don't want to learn anything. They are convinced they are right and they will fight dirty to get their way, whether it's babies in cages at the border or denying Merrick Garland a hearing even while they push Barrett through in a fraction of the time or storming the Capitol. These people don't care about what's right or what's just, they just want to have their way because they think they know better.

Leave the fancy private schools some of you have been sending your kids to. That's great. More room for us. Enjoy your isolation with like thinking trolls and frog people. I tried caring about you and you disappointed me every time. Go sit at the bar and complain about how this economy has left you behind -- no one is coming to interview you anymore. You are hurting this country with your backwards ideas and your white, white butthurt. Do better (but take your time, we don't need you).

You want others to “see your side” but if you are honest with yourself, do you see any other side? You accuse others of being ignorant of history and not wanting to learn anything, yet you seem very angry, and I would suspect you are trying to “teach” others versus really listening and truly being open minded. Just a thought. Most people are generally moderate, but extremes on both sides are dangerous. You should self-assess and see where you fall, it may be eye opening. Plus most mainstream people, even conservatives, are not QAnon.

You are funny. Oh yeah let me do a little self reflection and I'll get right back to you, while meanwhile you will continue to deny that racism exists, police treat black people differently, Joe Biden actually won the election, and voter suppression is wrong. Just carry on over there denying reality while telling liberals who care about the country that they are taking things too far.

A black man DARED TO KNEEL during the anthem at a football game and white conservatives cancelled him and his career and told black athletes to shut up because they should stick to sports. Meanwhile police are shooting or killing black people left and right while gun carrying anarchists at the Capitol don't get arrested, but prove to me that systemic racism still exists because my eyes can't seem to see any? Open your eyes, you are the problem in this country.

I actually don’t deny any of the things you said above. I just try to hear both sides of any situation and I read both liberal and conservative press so I can form my own opinions because both sides are extremely bias. I doubt you do the same.

[Anonymous]

His kid is coming home talking and asking questions that are making him uncomfortable. So he's going to withdraw instead of understand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This person actually thinks Donald Trump won the election so I am not wasting more time on them. Not reachable and not worth it. Brain fried by Fox, OAN, and Q conspiracies.

Yeah, I am a political moderate who thinks there is a lot of room for discussion about how political discourse and speech happens in schools these days, but this "Biden didn't win" Qanon nonsense is just off-putting and crazy.

The only people I know who truly believe that are literally crazy. Like, Qanon schizophrenia crazy. Talking with them is pointless.

Same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The letter sounds pretty good to me.

Many of us on this forum have been trying to explain the same thing for months.

"I object to the idea that Blacks are unable to succeed in this country without aid from government or from whites. Brearley, by adopting critical race theory, is advocating the abhorrent viewpoint that Blacks should forever be regarded as helpless victims, and are incapable of success regardless of their skills, talents, or hard work. What Brearley is teaching our children is precisely the true and correct definition of racism."

Bravo to him for so clearly articulating the issues.

He does not know what critical race theory is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think Brearley will be better off without this dad and his daughter. The letter uses all the buzz words of the far-right political community: comparing the school to the Chinese Communist Revolution, claiming that Black Lives Matter is a "Marxist, anti family, heterophobic, anti-Asian and anti-Semitic organization," claiming the school is "trying to usurp the role of parents in teaching morality," and, of course, lamenting "cancel culture." He also does not share one example of what he laments that the school is doing. And to say that there has been no systemic racism in the United States since the civil rights movement in the 1960's is just laughable.

The best part of the letter is this: "I object to the lowering of standards for the admission of students and for the hiring of teachers. I object to the erosion of rigor in classwork and the escalation of grade inflation. Any parent with eyes open can foresee these inevitabilities should antiracism initiatives be allowed to persist." he has absolutely no idea if the admissions department has lowered their standards - he just assumes so since they have tried to admit a more diverse student body. But, of course, he could never be accused of being racist for thinking so.

The letter is getting tons of praise in conservative circles and is all over conservative media. I'm not so sure its such a great lettertthat they all think it is.

You sound like a CRT apparatchik and, therefore, actually (if unintentionally) underscore the points in the parent’s letter.

What are some CRT texts you are familiar with that you recommend someone read so they know what a "CRT apparatchik" sounds like?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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The only true systemic racism today is the DOJ ruling that colleges are allowed to discriminate against Asian applicants despite being more qualified. Everything else is just individual bias that is not consistent with the law. Systemic racism is Jim Crow laws, Japanese internment, Nazi laws against Jews, educational exclusion of Jews, Chinese Exclusionary Act...all pre-1960's. In America today, anyone with the determination to get ahead can do so without a law getting in the way. Even so, in my opinion, although not true systemic racism, the closest thing to it today is the dumbing down of American public education and the welfare system that encourages single-parent households. While these two things affect both Blacks and Whites, it disproportionately affects Blacks and makes it very difficult to get ahead. However, with enough determination, ability and luck, it's possible for these people to get ahead because there are no laws prohibiting it. This cannot be said for many other countries. That is why immigrants come to America and tend to do better here than their American-born counterparts because they don't internalize the hurt caused by individual bias and allow it to make them a victim. Victim mentality is a sort of internal prison.

This is a common tactic by the right against the left: to attack the words. Defund the police. Black lives matter. Systemic racism. You poke holes in the words. Fine. Words matter, and the left is picky about language, too. But what lefties (like me) often hear is that those on the right dismiss the words and reject the conversation in whole.

So how do we have this conversation about what many call systemic racism and you and many others call a collection of individual biases? This bias plays out against people of color in multiple venues. In schools. When dealing with police. In courts. In housing. In the professional world. While walking. While birdwatching.

So it's not codified in law, but it sure is pervasive. How do we talk about it and how do we make our society more just?

I know how! Let’s teach only one viewpoint and political ideology to kids age 5-18 while they’re at school each day!

We don't teach the "other side" of the holocaust or other atrocities. If something is wrong, it's wrong. Racism is wrong. Allowing people like you to persist under the illusion that you simply posses a different viewpoint, than the reality that you do not believe in doing what is necessary to make the equality of races possible.

Terrible analogy. This is like teaching all German schoolchildren today that they should feel guilty about the holocaust and all German Jews to hate the German gentiles. This is ridiculous, its child abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The only true systemic racism today is the DOJ ruling that colleges are allowed to discriminate against Asian applicants despite being more qualified. Everything else is just individual bias that is not consistent with the law. Systemic racism is Jim Crow laws, Japanese internment, Nazi laws against Jews, educational exclusion of Jews, Chinese Exclusionary Act...all pre-1960's. In America today, anyone with the determination to get ahead can do so without a law getting in the way. Even so, in my opinion, although not true systemic racism, the closest thing to it today is the dumbing down of American public education and the welfare system that encourages single-parent households. While these two things affect both Blacks and Whites, it disproportionately affects Blacks and makes it very difficult to get ahead. However, with enough determination, ability and luck, it's possible for these people to get ahead because there are no laws prohibiting it. This cannot be said for many other countries. That is why immigrants come to America and tend to do better here than their American-born counterparts because they don't internalize the hurt caused by individual bias and allow it to make them a victim. Victim mentality is a sort of internal prison.

This is a common tactic by the right against the left: to attack the words. Defund the police. Black lives matter. Systemic racism. You poke holes in the words. Fine. Words matter, and the left is picky about language, too. But what lefties (like me) often hear is that those on the right dismiss the words and reject the conversation in whole.

So how do we have this conversation about what many call systemic racism and you and many others call a collection of individual biases? This bias plays out against people of color in multiple venues. In schools. When dealing with police. In courts. In housing. In the professional world. While walking. While birdwatching.

So it's not codified in law, but it sure is pervasive. How do we talk about it and how do we make our society more just?

I know how! Let’s teach only one viewpoint and political ideology to kids age 5-18 while they’re at school each day!

We don't teach the "other side" of the holocaust or other atrocities. If something is wrong, it's wrong. Racism is wrong. Allowing people like you to persist under the illusion that you simply posses a different viewpoint, than the reality that you do not believe in doing what is necessary to make the equality of races possible.

Terrible analogy. This is like teaching all German schoolchildren today that they should feel guilty about the holocaust and all German Jews to hate the German gentiles. This is ridiculous, its child abuse.

You should find out how Germans approach the Holocaust and the vast contrast with how we approach, say, Slavery. Suffice it to say they don't use holocaust sites as wedding venues.

[Anonymous]

You should find out how Germans approach the Holocaust and the vast contrast with how we approach, say, Slavery. Suffice it to say they don't use holocaust sites as wedding venues.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bari Weiss has garbage takes. Not even worth discussion.

This is a response from someone who argues with feelings and not facts.

[Anonymous]

Bari Weiss is awesome!