How "Woke" is Congressional vs. Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.


Do such guidelines exist?


They should and schools will continue with critical race theory unless more parents speak up. Discussing our history both good and bad is important but the focus on race in every subject is not healthy.

If it’s relevant, it’s relevant.
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Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.


Do such guidelines exist?


They should and schools will continue with critical race theory unless more parents speak up. Discussing our history both good and bad is important but the focus on race in every subject is not healthy.

If it’s relevant, it’s relevant.


exactly. when it is relevant it is relevant and should be focused on. and when it is not relevant, no need to make it the main focus of the subject discussion. students will lose the focus on other points of discussion when the other points are relevant.
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Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.


I used to hope that too. Langley‘s focus is on developing a “justice oriented curriculum.” This is what the teachers did on their professional development day while the parents got a speaker to teach them about white privilege and systemic racism. For anyone wondering, no, there were no examples were provided of actual systemic racism in existence today.
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This is happening also at Landon and other schools. We are longtime parents who are watching how this all rolls out. It is very political and very negative and I do not think critical
Race Theory is valid or productive. If anything it is a theory and schools should have other theories presented if schools want to go that route (for high school kids who are at an age to have deeper looks into the politics of diversity education). Maybe discuss Bob Woodson or Candace Owens. Parents need to read the curricula on various diversity programs. Most schools have this available online and you would be so surprised what is being taught. I do think there is room for open discussions but has to be age appropriate and balanced for all stake holders at the schools. For K8 like Langley the curriculum is concerning for young kids who are not able to speak back when a subject matter is this sensitive.
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Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.


I used to hope that too. Langley‘s focus is on developing a “justice oriented curriculum.” This is what the teachers did on their professional development day while the parents got a speaker to teach them about white privilege and systemic racism. For anyone wondering, no, there were no examples were provided of actual systemic racism in existence today.


We are white. We are immigrant. We are first generation college graduates from our own rural families from another country. We are survivors of war. So being white gives us white privilege? How. We are in this country for almost 20 years now, earning everything we have now in the hard way as immigrants here. It gives me shivers to think that my daughter will be taught that she somehow has the white privilege. And that what we have is due to white privilege? I am curious to see how the curriculum will be taught. If I see anything off, I will surely let them know. I hope they don't accuse us as racism because we are white? That would be really comical.
Anonymous
Congressional can't be too woke if they didn't take action or apologize for the fun Civil War photoshoot incident.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.


I used to hope that too. Langley‘s focus is on developing a “justice oriented curriculum.” This is what the teachers did on their professional development day while the parents got a speaker to teach them about white privilege and systemic racism. For anyone wondering, no, there were no examples were provided of actual systemic racism in existence today.


We are white. We are immigrant. We are first generation college graduates from our own rural families from another country. We are survivors of war. So being white gives us white privilege? How. We are in this country for almost 20 years now, earning everything we have now in the hard way as immigrants here. It gives me shivers to think that my daughter will be taught that she somehow has the white privilege. And that what we have is due to white privilege? I am curious to see how the curriculum will be taught. If I see anything off, I will surely let them know. I hope they don't accuse us as racism because we are white? That would be really comical.


Yes being white does in fact give you white privilege. You can’t be this simply minded and not notice how racial dynamics play out in this country. You’re being willfully obtuse.

To really think your white skin didn’t play a role in your ability to assimilate.
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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.


If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.


Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.


Then you’re not paying attention.


people are easily triggered now i guess


Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“


care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?


Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.


I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.


The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.


I have a MS child at Langley.they are not “woke”. The plan wasn’t to talk politics in the class room. It was for teachers to facilitate respectful discussion (without sharing their personal opinion) if the kids raise political topics. According to my child, nobody spoke about the Derek Chauvin trial at all, so the teachers said nothing. Langley errs on the side of age-appropriateness almost to a fault. Nobody’s indoctrinating anyone there. Families span the political spectrum and generally don’t talk politics. They do have a long-standing social emotional curriculum that encourages empathy, kindness and inclusivity.


If kids raise political topics and teachers are facilitating discussion, then yes, they are talking politics in the classroom. No, it is not always respectful, particularly during the last election. The fact that they are providing guidelines for discussion indicates that they intend to allow that discussion. If the policy is not to have politics in the classroom, then the kids can discuss it with their parents at home.

No, Langley does not err on the side of age appropriateness to a fault. 12-year-olds watching YouTube videos of young adults describing how they came out as gay is not appropriate for every 12-year-old and can be quite uncomfortable for those who don’t want to watch this type of thing with their peers.

There is a lot more to the REACH program than just the social and emotional aspects. The C for cultural responsiveness is heavy into identity politics. That focus, in and of itself, is political. Pushing it is indoctrination. I’m guessing that if you don’t mind, then it’s because it agrees with your politics. Or, perhaps your child is having a very different experience than mine. The cohorts are small. Your experience is not everyone’s experience. It would be a disservice to anyone interested in this topic to mislead them by pretending that Langley does not lean left politically.


Sounds like you need to move to Oakcrest and The Heights were you can live in your Republican bubble.
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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.


If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.


Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.


Then you’re not paying attention.


people are easily triggered now i guess


Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“


care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?


Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.


I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.


The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.


I have a MS child at Langley.they are not “woke”. The plan wasn’t to talk politics in the class room. It was for teachers to facilitate respectful discussion (without sharing their personal opinion) if the kids raise political topics. According to my child, nobody spoke about the Derek Chauvin trial at all, so the teachers said nothing. Langley errs on the side of age-appropriateness almost to a fault. Nobody’s indoctrinating anyone there. Families span the political spectrum and generally don’t talk politics. They do have a long-standing social emotional curriculum that encourages empathy, kindness and inclusivity.


If kids raise political topics and teachers are facilitating discussion, then yes, they are talking politics in the classroom. No, it is not always respectful, particularly during the last election. The fact that they are providing guidelines for discussion indicates that they intend to allow that discussion. If the policy is not to have politics in the classroom, then the kids can discuss it with their parents at home.

No, Langley does not err on the side of age appropriateness to a fault. 12-year-olds watching YouTube videos of young adults describing how they came out as gay is not appropriate for every 12-year-old and can be quite uncomfortable for those who don’t want to watch this type of thing with their peers.

There is a lot more to the REACH program than just the social and emotional aspects. The C for cultural responsiveness is heavy into identity politics. That focus, in and of itself, is political. Pushing it is indoctrination. I’m guessing that if you don’t mind, then it’s because it agrees with your politics. Or, perhaps your child is having a very different experience than mine. The cohorts are small. Your experience is not everyone’s experience. It would be a disservice to anyone interested in this topic to mislead them by pretending that Langley does not lean left politically.


Sounds like you need to move to Oakcrest and The Heights were you can live in your Republican bubble.


It sounds like you want me to leave so you can live on your bubble free of any opinion that differs from yours.
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Langley’s new HOS is very committed to diversity and equity work. At Norwood it is discussed a lot and often the subject of Chapel every morning. There has been an official anti-racist curriculum all year in the middle school, and Norwood is planning on using the Pollyanna program next year. She feels very strongly about it so I have no doubt that Langley will be quite “woke” (hate this term) when she takes the helm. Maybe not in the first year but certainly after that.
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It's a shame that after 30+ years of inclusive, appreciating diversity 'coexist' type curricula many of us have worked in the trenches to promote peaceful compatibility over the years -- how we are alike and how we are different that today's generation of teachers and leftist activists want to teach the children to hate each other.

Sadly, hate is the outcome of this type of 'progressive' yet very backward, thinking.
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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.


If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.


Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.


Then you’re not paying attention.


people are easily triggered now i guess


Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“


care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?


Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.


I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.


The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.


I have a MS child at Langley.they are not “woke”. The plan wasn’t to talk politics in the class room. It was for teachers to facilitate respectful discussion (without sharing their personal opinion) if the kids raise political topics. According to my child, nobody spoke about the Derek Chauvin trial at all, so the teachers said nothing. Langley errs on the side of age-appropriateness almost to a fault. Nobody’s indoctrinating anyone there. Families span the political spectrum and generally don’t talk politics. They do have a long-standing social emotional curriculum that encourages empathy, kindness and inclusivity.


If kids raise political topics and teachers are facilitating discussion, then yes, they are talking politics in the classroom. No, it is not always respectful, particularly during the last election. The fact that they are providing guidelines for discussion indicates that they intend to allow that discussion. If the policy is not to have politics in the classroom, then the kids can discuss it with their parents at home.

No, Langley does not err on the side of age appropriateness to a fault. 12-year-olds watching YouTube videos of young adults describing how they came out as gay is not appropriate for every 12-year-old and can be quite uncomfortable for those who don’t want to watch this type of thing with their peers.

There is a lot more to the REACH program than just the social and emotional aspects. The C for cultural responsiveness is heavy into identity politics. That focus, in and of itself, is political. Pushing it is indoctrination. I’m guessing that if you don’t mind, then it’s because it agrees with your politics. Or, perhaps your child is having a very different experience than mine. The cohorts are small. Your experience is not everyone’s experience. It would be a disservice to anyone interested in this topic to mislead them by pretending that Langley does not lean left politically.


Sounds like you need to move to Oakcrest and The Heights were you can live in your Republican bubble.


It sounds like you want me to leave so you can live on your bubble free of any opinion that differs from yours.


Not at all. But if you are complaining about the school, it’s clearly not a good fit.
Anonymous
If your looking for a “woke” experience for your precious snowflake, why not send them to a local public school that is minority majority?

https://airmail.news/issues/2021-5-1/the-view-from-here?utm_medium=email&utm_source=blast&utm_campaign=issue_email-2021-5-2
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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame that after 30+ years of inclusive, appreciating diversity 'coexist' type curricula many of us have worked in the trenches to promote peaceful compatibility over the years -- how we are alike and how we are different that today's generation of teachers and leftist activists want to teach the children to hate each other.

Sadly, hate is the outcome of this type of 'progressive' yet very backward, thinking.



I agree. Also should be noted that according to the recent census white Americans are 9th in terms of wealth despite being 60 percent of our country. Indian Americans are first. People forgot there are many many underprivileged white Americans. Those people do not feel any privilege I can assure you of that. It would be nice to get back to being inclusive for all and stop the dividing language. There are many industries now that promote this dividing message to schools. They can go home after saying and teaching dividing messages but our kids need to be able to get along and grow together.
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