How "Woke" is Congressional vs. Langley?

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.

If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.

Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.

Then you’re not paying attention.

people are easily triggered now i guess

Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“

care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?

Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.

I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.

The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.

I understand the referenced a book to aid in civil discourse. I didn't see a reference that it would be taught in the classroom. I agree with the schools approach to facilitate discussion as it will inevitably happen. If having a plan is "woke" then ok. I don't know if the 7th and 8th graders are discussing this in the classroom but it's definitely not in the lower school

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.

If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.

Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.

Then you’re not paying attention.

people are easily triggered now i guess

Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“

care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?

Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.

I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.

The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.

I understand the referenced a book to aid in civil discourse. I didn't see a reference that it would be taught in the classroom. I agree with the schools approach to facilitate discussion as it will inevitably happen. If having a plan is "woke" then ok. I don't know if the 7th and 8th graders are discussing this in the classroom but it's definitely not in the lower school

I did not mean that they were teaching the book in the classroom. The book is a reference for teachers. All kinds of things are discussed in the middle school. If you want political and social issues addressed from a leftist point of view, you will be happy.

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Anonymous wrote:"Little Langley" is much more woke.

Langley has become way too 'woke' for your average moderate suburbanite under this current HOS. Hopefully, they'll get back to a little more normal with the new HOS.

Is there any reason to think that will happen based on who the new HOS will be? Or the incoming head of the MS?

Where is Norwood on the woke scale?

When we first started at Norwood several years ago we thought it was a moderate school. This year however, I have been disappointed to hear from my early middle school child how they are pushing these ideas of all white people are the oppressors and racists. I have to do a lot of work at home to undo what my child listens to at school. It might just be the teacher that he has this year but I am not happy about it. While I believe that anti racist lessons are very important and should be talked about and learned, there is a big difference when there is a dividing rhetoric behind those lessons. It’s never a good idea to teach kids to feel divided instead of unified.

[Anonymous]

Ok Q go back to your hole. The rest of us live in reality.

Try and learn your own vocabulary words. This post just shows who dumb and gullible you are.

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Anonymous wrote:"Little Langley" is much more woke.

Langley has become way too 'woke' for your average moderate suburbanite under this current HOS. Hopefully, they'll get back to a little more normal with the new HOS.

Is there any reason to think that will happen based on who the new HOS will be? Or the incoming head of the MS?

Where is Norwood on the woke scale?

When we first started at Norwood several years ago we thought it was a moderate school. This year however, I have been disappointed to hear from my early middle school child how they are pushing these ideas of all white people are the oppressors and racists. I have to do a lot of work at home to undo what my child listens to at school. It might just be the teacher that he has this year but I am not happy about it. While I believe that anti racist lessons are very important and should be talked about and learned, there is a big difference when there is a dividing rhetoric behind those lessons. It’s never a good idea to teach kids to feel divided instead of unified.[/quote
Disappointing to hear, that was one of two schools we thought would be a good fit for our kid and our family.

Teaching anti racism wrong can really go quite wrong. Real risks there. More than just having a bad math teacher and needing some help for a bit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Little Langley" is much more woke.

Langley has become way too 'woke' for your average moderate suburbanite under this current HOS. Hopefully, they'll get back to a little more normal with the new HOS.

Is there any reason to think that will happen based on who the new HOS will be? Or the incoming head of the MS?

Where is Norwood on the woke scale?

When we first started at Norwood several years ago we thought it was a moderate school. This year however, I have been disappointed to hear from my early middle school child how they are pushing these ideas of all white people are the oppressors and racists. I have to do a lot of work at home to undo what my child listens to at school. It might just be the teacher that he has this year but I am not happy about it. While I believe that anti racist lessons are very important and should be talked about and learned, there is a big difference when there is a dividing rhetoric behind those lessons. It’s never a good idea to teach kids to feel divided instead of unified.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Little Langley" is much more woke.

Langley has become way too 'woke' for your average moderate suburbanite under this current HOS. Hopefully, they'll get back to a little more normal with the new HOS.

Is there any reason to think that will happen based on who the new HOS will be? Or the incoming head of the MS?

Where is Norwood on the woke scale?

When we first started at Norwood several years ago we thought it was a moderate school. This year however, I have been disappointed to hear from my early middle school child how they are pushing these ideas of all white people are the oppressors and racists. I have to do a lot of work at home to undo what my child listens to at school. It might just be the teacher that he has this year but I am not happy about it. While I believe that anti racist lessons are very important and should be talked about and learned, there is a big difference when there is a dividing rhetoric behind those lessons. It’s never a good idea to teach kids to feel divided instead of unified.

This is going on at Landon.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Little Langley" is much more woke.

Langley has become way too 'woke' for your average moderate suburbanite under this current HOS. Hopefully, they'll get back to a little more normal with the new HOS.

Is there any reason to think that will happen based on who the new HOS will be? Or the incoming head of the MS?

Where is Norwood on the woke scale?

When we first started at Norwood several years ago we thought it was a moderate school. This year however, I have been disappointed to hear from my early middle school child how they are pushing these ideas of all white people are the oppressors and racists. I have to do a lot of work at home to undo what my child listens to at school. It might just be the teacher that he has this year but I am not happy about it. While I believe that anti racist lessons are very important and should be talked about and learned, there is a big difference when there is a dividing rhetoric behind those lessons. It’s never a good idea to teach kids to feel divided instead of unified.

You should talk to Mr. Gould about this, because I don't think that is what is intended and I think he would want to know. It may be the teacher as you state, but he should know about it. With Ms. Claeys' imminent departure, Mr. Gould is for sure the right person to talk to about this.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean by woke?

Like how much social justice issues are incorporated into the curriculum.

Congressional not so much

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.

If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.

Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.

Then you’re not paying attention.

people are easily triggered now i guess

Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“

care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?

Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.

I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.

The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.

I have a MS child at Langley.they are not “woke”. The plan wasn’t to talk politics in the class room. It was for teachers to facilitate respectful discussion (without sharing their personal opinion) if the kids raise political topics. According to my child, nobody spoke about the Derek Chauvin trial at all, so the teachers said nothing. Langley errs on the side of age-appropriateness almost to a fault. Nobody’s indoctrinating anyone there. Families span the political spectrum and generally don’t talk politics. They do have a long-standing social emotional curriculum that encourages empathy, kindness and inclusivity.

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Though I hate to entertain OP and their stupid question - my Langley MS has said she doesn’t discuss any politics at school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I consider myself a moderate that leans more conservative. My son was at Langley for 5 years.... I can tell you - it's definitely NOT woke.

If he’s not there now, then you don’t know. The school has changed dramatically in the last 2-3 years.

Our family (current) has been there for several years and it's definitely NOT woke.

Then you’re not paying attention.

people are easily triggered now i guess

Not at all. I just want my kids to focus on the core academic subjects. At the elementary school level, I don’t want the “political classroom.“

care to give example of "political classroom" and "woke-ness" at Langley?

Clearly you are not at Langley or you would’ve recognized the reference to last night’s email describing once again how they plan to talk about political issues in the classroom using the book called “The Political Classroom” which is designed for older students.

I read the email. There was no reference to teaching using a book in the classroom.

The guidelines they use for talking about politics in the classroom are taken from the book that is clearly referenced in the email. My point is that the classroom should not be political in the Preschool-8 environment.

I have a MS child at Langley.they are not “woke”. The plan wasn’t to talk politics in the class room. It was for teachers to facilitate respectful discussion (without sharing their personal opinion) if the kids raise political topics. According to my child, nobody spoke about the Derek Chauvin trial at all, so the teachers said nothing. Langley errs on the side of age-appropriateness almost to a fault. Nobody’s indoctrinating anyone there. Families span the political spectrum and generally don’t talk politics. They do have a long-standing social emotional curriculum that encourages empathy, kindness and inclusivity.

If kids raise political topics and teachers are facilitating discussion, then yes, they are talking politics in the classroom. No, it is not always respectful, particularly during the last election. The fact that they are providing guidelines for discussion indicates that they intend to allow that discussion. If the policy is not to have politics in the classroom, then the kids can discuss it with their parents at home.

No, Langley does not err on the side of age appropriateness to a fault. 12-year-olds watching YouTube videos of young adults describing how they came out as gay is not appropriate for every 12-year-old and can be quite uncomfortable for those who don’t want to watch this type of thing with their peers.

There is a lot more to the REACH program than just the social and emotional aspects. The C for cultural responsiveness is heavy into identity politics. That focus, in and of itself, is political. Pushing it is indoctrination. I’m guessing that if you don’t mind, then it’s because it agrees with your politics. Or, perhaps your child is having a very different experience than mine. The cohorts are small. Your experience is not everyone’s experience. It would be a disservice to anyone interested in this topic to mislead them by pretending that Langley does not lean left politically.

[Anonymous]

As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.

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Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.

Do such guidelines exist?

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Anonymous wrote:As a family whose kid will join Langley this fall, I am very interested in this discussion. I do hope that Langley follows age appropriate guidelines and leave politics to families to discuss at home.

Do such guidelines exist?

They should and schools will continue with critical race theory unless more parents speak up. Discussing our history both good and bad is important but the focus on race in every subject is not healthy.