Public school teachers will be losing jobs

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of teachers retiring earlier than expected or leaving for other careers. I doubt anyone will end up without a teaching job if they want one.

And all of them will be paid a pension, meaning that the school system has to keep paying them until they die. That’s why there will be layoffs and increasing class sizes.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of teachers retiring earlier than expected or leaving for other careers. I doubt anyone will end up without a teaching job if they want one.

And all of them will be paid a pension, meaning that the school system has to keep paying them until they die. That’s why there will be layoffs and increasing class sizes.

pensions currently being drawn aren't necessarily on the school board's books

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I'm a teacher with about 5 years left until retirement. I'm looking forward to that pension very, very much. Teaching makes no financial sense until you get to retirement. That's when it pays off in spades. At least for me it will.

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.

A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.

Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?

Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.

Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.

No one is talking about just not paying taxes. I’m talking about advocating for legislation putting a voucher system in place and voting for people likely to support that platform. Just like you can do the same to try to reduce defense spending if that’s your priority.

No way, no how.

Don't defund our schools when they need support, more now than ever.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is creating a virtual only school permanently. They will need staff to teach those classes separately.

Virtual pays a lot less.

Citation?

It requires specialized facilitation & technical skills.

Google Virtual VA pay. It’s about 40k, minimal benefits.

These are DC-area teachers. COL is much higher than most of VA.

They won’t get paid any less.

Virtual,teachers can be hired from a lower COL area in VA though. They don’t need to live near a school. You think teaching can be outsourced?

This is a district-specific, short-term virtual program. Think they will come up with a different pay-scale and go through the hassle of remote hiring just for this temporary program?

Nope. Will be DC-area teachers with DC-area pay. Probably current teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard from two well-placed sources that based on projected enrollment figures in two different public school districts, schools are already planning for teacher lay offs for next school year.

I genuinely wonder if the teachers saw that one coming.

Start with PE lmfao

I teach languages. That’s always In demand. So I’m chillin. F U tho

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.

A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.

Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?

Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.

Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.

No one is talking about just not paying taxes. I’m talking about advocating for legislation putting a voucher system in place and voting for people likely to support that platform. Just like you can do the same to try to reduce defense spending if that’s your priority.

No way, no how.

Don't defund our schools when they need support, more now than ever.

Don’t support schools that refused to support kids.

And wait until 2022 and 2024 when this years high schools will be voting. I have one and believe me— they have opinions about FCPS and public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is creating a virtual only school permanently. They will need staff to teach those classes separately.

Virtual pays a lot less.

Citation?

It requires specialized facilitation & technical skills.

Google Virtual VA pay. It’s about 40k, minimal benefits.

These are DC-area teachers. COL is much higher than most of VA.

They won’t get paid any less.

Virtual,teachers can be hired from a lower COL area in VA though. They don’t need to live near a school. You think teaching can be outsourced?

This is a district-specific, short-term virtual program. Think they will come up with a different pay-scale and go through the hassle of remote hiring just for this temporary program?

Nope. Will be DC-area teachers with DC-area pay. Probably current teachers.

Who says the virtual school will be short term? That’s why you bother to stand up a virtual pyramid. God knows teachers amd DL parents have been saying for a year that DL school is as good as— or better than in person. And parents who think otherwise hate their kids.

Well, all the kids whose parents love them can learn virtually forever. As can homebound kids and all the other kids whose parents have assured me DL is is better.

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Anonymous wrote:I have heard from two well-placed sources that based on projected enrollment figures in two different public school districts, schools are already planning for teacher lay offs for next school year.

I genuinely wonder if the teachers saw that one coming.

Start with PE lmfao

I teach languages. That’s always In demand. So I’m chillin. F U tho

My mother was a French teacher. And yeah— not so much. They may become iterrant though. That’s an issue. Schools phase languages in and out as trends change. My mother spend a fun few years teaching French and Spanish.

Now, math teachers, science teachers, English language teachers, ELL and SNs teachers will always find a job. But foreign language education is a niche. One without a lot of transferable skills, because most language teachers don’t have aural fluency to be translators.

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.

A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.

Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?

Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.

Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.

No one is talking about just not paying taxes. I’m talking about advocating for legislation putting a voucher system in place and voting for people likely to support that platform. Just like you can do the same to try to reduce defense spending if that’s your priority.

No way, no how.

Don't defund our schools when they need support, more now than ever.

Ha- after the schools turned their back on parents like me that needed support this year I have zero loyalty to them.

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.

A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.

Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?

Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.

Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.

No one is talking about just not paying taxes. I’m talking about advocating for legislation putting a voucher system in place and voting for people likely to support that platform. Just like you can do the same to try to reduce defense spending if that’s your priority.

No way, no how.

Don't defund our schools when they need support, more now than ever.

Ha- after the schools turned their back on parents like me that needed support this year I have zero loyalty to them.

Cool whine. Nobody is getting vouchers. Feel free to pay for private though!

[Anonymous]

It's terrible to see the schadenfreude, but good to know that it will be shortlived. Families who took their kids out of public will come running back when schools open in the fall because they cannot afford private school long-term.

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.

A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.

Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?

Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.

Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.

No one is talking about just not paying taxes. I’m talking about advocating for legislation putting a voucher system in place and voting for people likely to support that platform. Just like you can do the same to try to reduce defense spending if that’s your priority.

No way, no how.

Don't defund our schools when they need support, more now than ever.

Ha- after the schools turned their back on parents like me that needed support this year I have zero loyalty to them.

Cool whine. Nobody is getting vouchers. Feel free to pay for private though!

We are paying for Catholic school next year since they have shown they actually care about educating kids. However I will also continue to advocate for vouchers- they’re not mutually exclusive.

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It's terrible to see the schadenfreude, but good to know that it will be shortlived. Families who took their kids out of public will come running back when schools open in the fall because they cannot afford private school long-term.

Everyone I know who decamped to private school is planning to stay since they don’t want their kids to be stuck relearning everything the public schools failed to teach last year.

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.

A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.

Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?

In your fantasy novel.