Public school teachers will be losing jobs

[Anonymous]

Obviously 15% of our school has left and they are not coming back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously 15% of our school has left and they are not coming back.

Is that obvious? Are you sure none of them are coming back?

[Anonymous]

And there aren't enough new teachers in the pipeline to take their place. Glad my children are almost done with K-12 before the teacher shortage truly hits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And there aren't enough new teachers in the pipeline to take their place. Glad my children are almost done with K-12 before the teacher shortage truly hits.

To take whose place? The teachers that are getting laid off due to lower enrollment? Why would you replace them if there's lower enrollment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard from two well-placed sources that based on projected enrollment figures in two different public school districts, schools are already planning for teacher lay offs for next school year.

I genuinely wonder if the teachers saw that one coming.

I don't believe it, or I don't think it will be significant based on the early retirements and other losses of teachers, but what districts are you referring to? I did see DCPS was cutting 57 EL teachers so that is a bit of a surprise - still waiting to see if that's truly a demographic shift?

[Anonymous]

MCPS is creating a virtual only school permanently. They will need staff to teach those classes separately.

[Anonymous]

Typically this doesn't result in layoffs. They just don't fill positions caused by retirements, resignations, etc. It doesn't mean teachers lose jobs, it means there are more students in classes.

[Anonymous]

No they won’t. My daughter is a sixth year teacher with no intention of leaving her school. She has been contacted by three schools in Fairfax offering her jobs. My son will be a first year teacher. He has been offered eight jobs in the last month. We are still dealing with massive teacher shortages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No they won’t. My daughter is a sixth year teacher with no intention of leaving her school. She has been contacted by three schools in Fairfax offering her jobs. My son will be a first year teacher. He has been offered eight jobs in the last month. We are still dealing with massive teacher shortages.

8 jobs. Really?

Anyway, they just re-shuffle teachers. No one will need to hit the unemployment line for long. I don't see every family who moved to private coming back to public.

[Anonymous]

We all get that you can have teacher lay-offs AND a teacher shortage at the same time, right?

[Anonymous]

like, a district might have wanted to have 100 teachers, but could only hire 90 (teacher shortage). They just have more kids/teacher.

Then you get budget cuts, and you lay off 5 of those 90 teachers. Maybe the reason for that is fewer kids, so the kids/teacher goes down.

That's a short-term encompassment of the issue, but that's what we are talking about -- a single year.

Over time with fewer teacher positions you'd no longer have a teacher shortage if the number of people getting teaching credentials remained the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No they won’t. My daughter is a sixth year teacher with no intention of leaving her school. She has been contacted by three schools in Fairfax offering her jobs. My son will be a first year teacher. He has been offered eight jobs in the last month. We are still dealing with massive teacher shortages.

Yes, definitely your son and daughter are the full picture of what could be going on in the region.

[Anonymous]

I am a teacher in a suburb and we're starting to see retirements not getting filled for next year and shifting people around into openings we cannot fill. There's some lay offs. All young teachers. We aren't laying off anyone because we have so many positions to fill. Some other places are though. Those teachers will have no trouble finding work. We all expected this. Not a surprise.

[Anonymous]

Sorry meant to say nearby districts are laying off young teachers.

[Anonymous]

It seems possible that certain districts with more attrition (perhaps based on availability of more privates) will see bigger student losses than other districts. So teachers will get laid off in one location/district, but will find jobs in other locations/districts. Hopefully for the teachers, the districts are close and doesn't require a big move or commute.

I'd be interested to see, in a year or two, whether districts with more IPL over the past year will see less attrition, all else equal.