Public school teachers will be losing jobs

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Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.
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Anonymous wrote:I would imagine this is based on contracting of budgets (the economy sucked last year, so less tax revenue), plus people pulling kids out of public schools means less funding.


No, state budgets are doing great, from all the stimulus money.

It has to do with the number of students, not state budgets. It means that private schools will be increasing their numbers of teachers -- but private schools don't pay as well as public.


Also non-unionized plus fewer benefits, I'd imagine.



Way fewer benefits, lower salary, less job security.


But smarter (or at least way more well behaved!) kids
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have heard from two well-placed sources that based on projected enrollment figures in two different public school districts, schools are already planning for teacher lay offs for next school year.

I genuinely wonder if the teachers saw that one coming.


So many are leaving the profession that it will “balance out” to an even worse teacher shortage. Wonder if parents saw that one coming?
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Anonymous wrote:I have heard from two well-placed sources that based on projected enrollment figures in two different public school districts, schools are already planning for teacher lay offs for next school year.

I genuinely wonder if the teachers saw that one coming.


So many are leaving the profession that it will “balance out” to an even worse teacher shortage. Wonder if parents saw that one coming?


Data or citation?
Anonymous
Our district has already announced zero layoffs and the best budget in decades for next year. Sad that you think bigger class sizes (which are statistically proven to be bad for student learning) would be something to celebrate. I thought it was all about the kids and their education?
Guess it's more about your own pettiness, after all.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.


Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.


Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is creating a virtual only school permanently. They will need staff to teach those classes separately.


Virtual pays a lot less.


Citation?

It requires specialized facilitation & technical skills.


Google Virtual VA pay. It’s about 40k, minimal benefits.


These are DC-area teachers. COL is much higher than most of VA.

They won’t get paid any less.


If they're all virtual, why would they need to be local?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.


Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.


+1

Who are these jerks who don't think they're entitled to pay taxes like the rest of us? Oh right - Republicans.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.


Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.


NP. To be fair, public education in this country is far worse now than it ever was half a century ago. So it’s not really a fair comparison.

And as for roads, you do use them even if you never drive. The food you eat, clothes you wear, materials for the house you’re living in were all transported on roads.

Personally, I think education vouchers are long overdue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.


Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.


NP. To be fair, public education in this country is far worse now than it ever was half a century ago. So it’s not really a fair comparison.

And as for roads, you do use them even if you never drive. The food you eat, clothes you wear, materials for the house you’re living in were all transported on roads.

Personally, I think education vouchers are long overdue.

I'm sure you do. Not every road is a service road. I won't be paying for any roads that trucks can't drive on. I also have no interest in contributing my tax dollars for the following public goods, services, and expenses: the military, the police force, the space force, bailouts for corporations, corporate tax breaks. I'll take a check.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


+1 yes please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MCPS is creating a virtual only school permanently. They will need staff to teach those classes separately.


Virtual pays a lot less.


Citation?

It requires specialized facilitation & technical skills.


Google Virtual VA pay. It’s about 40k, minimal benefits.


These are DC-area teachers. COL is much higher than most of VA.

They won’t get paid any less.


Virtual,teachers can be hired from a lower COL area in VA though. They don’t need to live near a school. You think teaching can be outsourced?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a young teacher, I can only tell you how many vacancies went unfilled this year. The federal government just allocated a ton of money to state and local governments and earmarked much of it for education. If anything, we will need smaller classes and more teachers next year.
It’s comical that parents claim they want a better education for their children while celebrating something that would have the opposite effect. What parents actually want is compliant, docile women to watch their children all day and now they want revenge.


A lot of us just want vouchers since we have given up on the public school system.


Seriously. Where do I sign up for that?


Go to RWNJ state for vouchers. Not happening around here. We value education too much to inflict that on ourselves.


Sorry, even if you have given up on the public school system, you don't get vouchers. Since before you were born, everyone pays the taxes that go into public schools. That includes millions of people who have no children, have children in private or parochial schools or children that are grown up and out of the system. Just because you don't like the public school system, you don't get to take that tax money back out to apply to private school tuition. This is like me saying that since I don't drive on any of the roads in your part of the state, I should get my infrastructure money back so that I can apply it to a new car that I drive in my part of the state. Pubic schools are a taxable item and are there for anyone who lives in the jurisdiction. We all pay for that whether we use it or not. We all pay taxes for many, many government agencies and budget items that we don't use. You don't get line item veto of the items you don't use.

So, you are welcome to send your child to a private or parochial school, but if you do so, you pay for the tuition out of your pocket and don't get to take back the tax money you paid to support the public schools.

Yup. I don’t agree that we should spend 600 billion+ dollars every year on our military, but that doesn’t mean that I get a refund on my taxes. Bummer.


No one is talking about just not paying taxes. I’m talking about advocating for legislation putting a voucher system in place and voting for people likely to support that platform. Just like you can do the same to try to reduce defense spending if that’s your priority.
Anonymous
Lots of teachers retiring earlier than expected or leaving for other careers. I doubt anyone will end up without a teaching job if they want one.
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