WTU/DCPS reach agreement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/ET-15%20FY%2019%20Pay%20Schedule.pdf

Fourth highest paid public school teachers in the country: https://wtop.com/local/2019/05/dc-teachers-rank-among-highest-paid-in-the-nation/#:~:text=D.C.%20teachers%20were%20the%20fourth,salary%20of%20%2451%2C994%20per%20year. And among the very teachers that haven't sent foot in a classroom since March. What a great deal for the taxpayers of DC . . .

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Anonymous wrote:You all are moving to MD or NoVa and going to public schools over this? Where teachers and leadership have the same problems and no one is back to school. Makes sense.

Some of what’s going on in this thread is conservatives who are mainly interested in their ideological agenda— breaking unions, harming public schools. (This is a big part of conservative ideology because local govts collect a lot of tax dollars and spend it on schools. So anti-tax/anti-society conservative are also anti-school.)

No, this is the narrative you're pushing to get what you want. In DC, it's liberals who want the schools open, and liberals who want the schools closed. And some liberals (like me) have now reconsidered blind support for teacher's unions. That's a lose for unions in the long term.

yep. - pro voucher liberal who sees that the teachers care only for themselves.

Teachers already get paid crap. Now you are saying they should put kids first and take the risk of coming down with Covid for the greater good. C’mon- just listen to yourself. Teachers have always been treated badly in the US and now we are paying the price. I’m a parent not a teacher but this is obvious stuff that you should not need explained

Teachers in DCPS do NOT get paid like crap. My kid's PK4 teacher and K teacher both make very low six figures.

You have to have been teaching for many many years to get to 100k. Plus have advanced degrees. Most teachers are not making close to 100k contrary to what DCUM thinks

This. Literally how did this false information start?

You need to work in DCPS for 10-21 years to make the low 6 figures, and by low lets just say it's literally 100k. No one is being paid 200k, because that is also a low six figures haha.


Also when you have to spend part of your paycheck on supplies I imagine that sucks.

This is not a BOO HOO teachers post, 100k is OK. However let's not pretend teachers here are rich just because they make more than others in the US. I've heard DCPS talk about making teachers rich and I think they're gonna have to do a little better than 100k in 10-20 years....

You can actually look up this info, but 2018 is the most recent I can easily find:

For DCPS: "Average annual salary was $74,761 and median salary was $78,856. Dc Public Schools average salary is 60 percent higher than USA average and median salary is 81 percent higher than USA median." My kid's K teacher made $113,617 and has not been working for DCPS for 10 years (even now and this data is 2 years old); she does have a master's. My kid's PK teacher had the same salary and has been working for DCPS for more than 10 years; I don't know if she has a master's, but it's possible.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in my 17th year of teaching with a Master’s degree, but am not at 100k. DCPS doesn’t recognize all my years since they didn’t all happen here.

Not many parents don’t want teachers to be paid more. But it’d be nice if they could also show up and teach.

I voted to go back and didn’t participate in the sick out.

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20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are the only people who refuse to do their job and demand a raise.

None of my students parents wanted them to come in. WTF do you want me to do? I volunteered to come back! But I didn't want to teach another grade level.

Tired of these rude comment, when I'm trying to manage my own children and FORCED distance learning!

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are the only people who refuse to do their job and demand a raise.

None of my students parents wanted them to come in. WTF do you want me to do? I volunteered to come back! But I didn't want to teach another grade level.

Tired of these rude comment, when I'm trying to manage my own children and FORCED distance learning!

These people don’t care. They probably wouldn’t even set foot in your school.

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Anonymous wrote:20th year teaching. Yes, I’ve crossed over the $100,000 mark. I live in DC, and given the cost of living here, I am far from wealthy. Comparing the salaries of teachers in cities with very different costs of living makes zero sense. Of course their salaries are lower. Their apartments also cost $600 a month lol.

I am not remotely suggesting that teachers are overpaid; they aren't. But all of the posts acting like teachers are badly paid are just inaccurate. Head teachers in DCPS make more than the average total income of a kid in a DC public classroom. So if we're feeling really bad for the economic pressure being exerted on teachers to return, think about their students' families.

So you all know teachers are important now right? Has this pandemic taught you that?

Are they as important as a doctor?
A lawyer?

An engineer?

Marketing managers?


The average wage in DC I think is like 69k. Is being a teacher an average job? Is someone who spends the majority of the regular school day with the city's children average?
Is having to have multiple titles in one (that you are not trained for average?)

Even before Covid-19, I think teachers should be paid more. I don't think the pay is bad, but it's not excellent either.
So I imagine most teachers who respond are not talking about hardships due to covid-19.


Regardless I hope we can get back on topic, the agreement has been officially signed and every school will decide the model.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are the only people who refuse to do their job and demand a raise.

None of my students parents wanted them to come in. WTF do you want me to do? I volunteered to come back! But I didn't want to teach another grade level.

Tired of these rude comment, when I'm trying to manage my own children and FORCED distance learning!

These people don’t care. They probably wouldn’t even set foot in your school.

Ha, probably not. I teach in a NE school, not NW which I imagine most of the their children go to. Still, I shouldn't take these comments personally.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in my 17th year of teaching with a Master’s degree, but am not at 100k. DCPS doesn’t recognize all my years since they didn’t all happen here.

Not many parents don’t want teachers to be paid more. But it’d be nice if they could also show up and teach.

I voted to go back and didn’t participate in the sick out.

Thank you. I think most of us realize that WTU doesn't represent the views of all DCPS teachers and that very few will hold what has happened against individual teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are the only people who refuse to do their job and demand a raise.

None of my students parents wanted them to come in. WTF do you want me to do? I volunteered to come back! But I didn't want to teach another grade level.

Tired of these rude comment, when I'm trying to manage my own children and FORCED distance learning!

Those who volunteered to come back are the true champions of DCPS. I was gutted to see how few of the teachers in my kids' NW school opted to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in my 17th year of teaching with a Master’s degree, but am not at 100k. DCPS doesn’t recognize all my years since they didn’t all happen here.

Not many parents don’t want teachers to be paid more. But it’d be nice if they could also show up and teach.

I voted to go back and didn’t participate in the sick out.

Thank you. I think most of us realize that WTU doesn't represent the views of all DCPS teachers and that very few will hold what has happened against individual teachers.

Some of these individual teachers earned our scorn. DC's teacher went on strike to protest the most vulnerable students going back to school, including DC. Meanwhile she did a terrible job even trying to teach SN DC and didn't care about the growing gap she personally was helping to create by her crappy teaching. But now we know that most WTU teachers don't give a crap about our kids. I'm on the side of my kids, not the teachers. Every parent always should have been, but any parent who still thinks the teachers are on your kid's side is beyond help.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are the only people who refuse to do their job and demand a raise.

None of my students parents wanted them to come in. WTF do you want me to do? I volunteered to come back! But I didn't want to teach another grade level.

Tired of these rude comment, when I'm trying to manage my own children and FORCED distance learning!

Those who volunteered to come back are the true champions of DCPS. I was gutted to see how few of the teachers in my kids' NW school opted to do so.

+1. They're in the minority though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of these individual teachers earned our scorn. DC's teacher went on strike to protest the most vulnerable students going back to school, including DC. Meanwhile she did a terrible job even trying to teach SN DC and didn't care about the growing gap she personally was helping to create by her crappy teaching. But now we know that most WTU teachers don't give a crap about our kids. I'm on the side of my kids, not the teachers. Every parent always should have been, but any parent who still thinks the teachers are on your kid's side is beyond help.

My DC's teacher - a WTU stalwart - handed out T2 materials while camped out a local restaurant enjoying assorted food and beverages. While I had no issues with her doing this per se, I would imagine the irony of the situation escaped her, enjoying as she was the benefits of in-person services that her and other WTU affiliates were simultaneously denying the DCPS student body. Those teachers who endorsed WTU's demands and have been eating out, drinking out, physically shopping, traveling on commercial flights and/or public transportation, opening their mail and/or packages, visiting the doctor or dentist, and/or otherwise benefiting from the fruits of those who physically-delivered services that continue to be delivered throughout this pandemic should immediately engage with their own replete repositories of cognitive dissonance.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in my 17th year of teaching with a Master’s degree, but am not at 100k. DCPS doesn’t recognize all my years since they didn’t all happen here.

Not many parents don’t want teachers to be paid more. But it’d be nice if they could also show up and teach.

I voted to go back and didn’t participate in the sick out.

Thank you. I think most of us realize that WTU doesn't represent the views of all DCPS teachers and that very few will hold what has happened against individual teachers.

Some of these individual teachers earned our scorn. DC's teacher went on strike to protest the most vulnerable students going back to school, including DC. Meanwhile she did a terrible job even trying to teach SN DC and didn't care about the growing gap she personally was helping to create by her crappy teaching. But now we know that most WTU teachers don't give a crap about our kids. I'm on the side of my kids, not the teachers. Every parent always should have been, but any parent who still thinks the teachers are on your kid's side is beyond help.

Same story here. I can’t stand to hear her stupid voice every morning uselessly babbling at the kids. this year cannot end soon enough.