WTU/DCPS reach agreement

[Anonymous]

Schools are going to open soon, even though the coronavirus numbers are getting worse. If teachers had allowed schools to open in august, when the coronavirus numbers were extremely low, we could close them now as things get worse. Instead, the opposite is going to happen. Teachers screwed themselves by being so unreasonable.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools are going to open soon, even though the coronavirus numbers are getting worse. If teachers had allowed schools to open in august, when the coronavirus numbers were extremely low, we could close them now as things get worse. Instead, the opposite is going to happen. Teachers screwed themselves by being so unreasonable.

No I don’t believe that would be happening. The science continues to say it’s safe. We should not be shutting down schools right now. We should have opened and continue to stay open. Opening in August wouldn’t have changed this.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone please remind me what the dispute about this analogy has to do with whether teachers should go back to work or not.

The general idea is that nurses have been heroes of the pandemic and teachers have been the opposite of heroes during the pandemic.

Teacher here, I didn’t sign up to be a “hero”.

Clearly. You’re the villain in this story. Thanks for screwing over my kids, even when the coronavirus levels in DC were so low they were practically nonexistent.

And you are are a special kind of sh((y entitled brat. Your kids won't do well in this world because they are probably suffering at home being with you.

https://dccovid.com/#schools-data

The behavior of WTU and the DCPS teachers that sustain them has been deplorable over the past few months. Even Fauci has called you guys out.

It’s awesome isn’t it? We just revel in the fact that everyone hates us. It gives us strength and we feed off of it.

Just like the Trumpers.

Who are 90% white. Many teachers in DC are Black women. Just trying to find another way to demonize us right?

[Anonymous]

While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

[Anonymous]

Even in Chicago - a labor-friendly town if ever there was one - the city called the teacher's union on its shenanigans and has managed to set a date for getting kids back in to school: https://chicago.suntimes.com/education/2020/12/17/22182428/chicago-teachers-union-cps-public-schools-illinois-educational-labor-relations-board

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

Np. Just because you don’t think race is behind it doesn’t mean there’s not racism influencing the way people feel and talk about WTU, even perhaps unconsciously. White Ward 3 parents are aware of the fact that they are racial minorities in DCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

Np. Just because you don’t think race is behind it doesn’t mean there’s not racism influencing the way people feel and talk about WTU, even perhaps unconsciously. White Ward 3 parents are aware of the fact that they are racial minorities in DCPS.

The focus on race here is a sideshow. The core substance of what the poster said — the bolded above — has nothing to do with race.

Does anyone have a response to the bolded comments?

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

Np. Just because you don’t think race is behind it doesn’t mean there’s not racism influencing the way people feel and talk about WTU, even perhaps unconsciously. White Ward 3 parents are aware of the fact that they are racial minorities in DCPS.

The focus on race here is a sideshow. The core substance of what the poster said — the bolded above — has nothing to do with race.

Does anyone have a response to the bolded comments?

He's talking from a high horse. Tell me how racism, privilege, and the United States general lack of care for public education DOESN'T play a role?

How doesn't it. 9 wasted months? How about 4 wasted years of poor presidential leadership.

When your response is bad and behind, you'll continue to be behind.


I don't want to hear this BS blaming teachers or their unions. Tell me what confidence has the US or even DCPS instilled in it's teachers? Let alone it's Black teachers who have been effected the most. Tell me if this was affecting White people and families the most the narrative wouldn't be different?
As a teacher I think the best response would have been to have a better response to the pandemic in general and just change the school year around for a year or two. Get teacher buy in with more pay for the inconvenience, whatever. Write a agreement to protect teachers, invest in the HVAC units SOONER.

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

Np. Just because you don’t think race is behind it doesn’t mean there’s not racism influencing the way people feel and talk about WTU, even perhaps unconsciously. White Ward 3 parents are aware of the fact that they are racial minorities in DCPS.

The focus on race here is a sideshow. The core substance of what the poster said — the bolded above — has nothing to do with race.

Does anyone have a response to the bolded comments?

He's talking from a high horse. Tell me how racism, privilege, and the United States general lack of care for public education DOESN'T play a role?

How doesn't it. 9 wasted months? How about 4 wasted years of poor presidential leadership.

When your response is bad and behind, you'll continue to be behind.


I don't want to hear this BS blaming teachers or their unions. Tell me what confidence has the US or even DCPS instilled in it's teachers? Let alone it's Black teachers who have been effected the most. Tell me if this was affecting White people and families the most the narrative wouldn't be different?
As a teacher I think the best response would have been to have a better response to the pandemic in general and just change the school year around for a year or two. Get teacher buy in with more pay for the inconvenience, whatever. Write a agreement to protect teachers, invest in the HVAC units SOONER.

Whataboutism at its finest.

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

Np. Just because you don’t think race is behind it doesn’t mean there’s not racism influencing the way people feel and talk about WTU, even perhaps unconsciously. White Ward 3 parents are aware of the fact that they are racial minorities in DCPS.

The focus on race here is a sideshow. The core substance of what the poster said — the bolded above — has nothing to do with race.

Does anyone have a response to the bolded comments?

He's talking from a high horse. Tell me how racism, privilege, and the United States general lack of care for public education DOESN'T play a role?

How doesn't it. 9 wasted months? How about 4 wasted years of poor presidential leadership.

When your response is bad and behind, you'll continue to be behind.


I don't want to hear this BS blaming teachers or their unions. Tell me what confidence has the US or even DCPS instilled in it's teachers? Let alone it's Black teachers who have been effected the most. Tell me if this was affecting White people and families the most the narrative wouldn't be different?
As a teacher I think the best response would have been to have a better response to the pandemic in general and just change the school year around for a year or two. Get teacher buy in with more pay for the inconvenience, whatever. Write a agreement to protect teachers, invest in the HVAC units SOONER.

Whataboutism at its finest.

Ah gaslighting.

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Anonymous wrote:While I don’t have exact statistics as PP mentioned the vast majority of teachers in DCPS are black women. WTU is lead by black women. These are the people you are calling lazy, selfish, and entitled.

Correction: lazy, selfish, entitled “Trumpers”

I don't think many of us would care if the WTU leadership was composed of purple and magenta striped bearded eunuchs in saffron spacesuits with lime green polka dots. Even still, that wouldn't distract from the fact that their demands have run in direct contradiction to the recommendations of scientists and public health professionals, including one Dr. Fauci. And it certainly wouldn't distract from the accompanying fact that their intransigence has shafted a full 14 grades worth of public school children out of nine irreplaceable months of what would otherwise have passed for an education and destroyed decades of progress in building parental confidence in the city's public school system.

No, I don't think so. I used to work at a ward 3 (where I live) school but I was too sensitive to the passive aggressive parents. To be fair some parents didn't care that I was black, especially since their children were doing well and loved me. But I couldn't deal with the racism and prejudice. If you notice most (again most, not all) Ward 3 teachers are White, this is not a coincidence.

Even at my current school we had a few parents who demanded the principal switch their child's teacher so they could have a teacher who 'looks like them.' (White)


So to say magically racial issues have disappeared because of covid-19 is very naïve. I'm not saying this is the only reason, parents certainly would still be angry. But don't say it doesn't play a role because it does.

But W3 is where the loudest voices to return are and it is where, by your own admission, teachers are the whitest. I really don’t think race is behind this conflict (in either direction).

Np. Just because you don’t think race is behind it doesn’t mean there’s not racism influencing the way people feel and talk about WTU, even perhaps unconsciously. White Ward 3 parents are aware of the fact that they are racial minorities in DCPS.

The focus on race here is a sideshow. The core substance of what the poster said — the bolded above — has nothing to do with race.

Does anyone have a response to the bolded comments?

He's talking from a high horse. Tell me how racism, privilege, and the United States general lack of care for public education DOESN'T play a role?

How doesn't it. 9 wasted months? How about 4 wasted years of poor presidential leadership.

When your response is bad and behind, you'll continue to be behind.


I don't want to hear this BS blaming teachers or their unions. Tell me what confidence has the US or even DCPS instilled in it's teachers? Let alone it's Black teachers who have been effected the most. Tell me if this was affecting White people and families the most the narrative wouldn't be different?
As a teacher I think the best response would have been to have a better response to the pandemic in general and just change the school year around for a year or two. Get teacher buy in with more pay for the inconvenience, whatever. Write a agreement to protect teachers, invest in the HVAC units SOONER.

Whataboutism at its finest.

Ah gaslighting.

Honestly, your argument bemuses me. You are arguing that its somehow OK for the WTU to short-change the city's school children (who are overwhelmingly minorities by the way and heck a lot less privileged than the DCPS teaching staff) and set them even further behind their peers around the country because of Trump? And that it's OK for the WTU to act this way because you think the whole country hasn't done enough to support teachers. I think you'll find few who think the crisis was handled well by DCPS, Trump, or the US government at large, but WTU's demands are not defensible with or without that.