Judaism and Hinduism.

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Anonymous wrote:The only time I ever felt pressure to convert to another religion was when dating my Jewish boyfriend. It was a constant topic of conversation. Both he and his parents brought it up constantly with me. I must convert and our future children must be raised Jewish. There would be no compromise at all. No shared religion. I was young so it made me feel terrible. After a few years we broke up. The pressure was too much. He married someone else and yes she converted.

That is an interesting point to the discussion.

Without the context of thousands of years of auto-de-fes, farhuds, pogroms, the Shoah, dimmi, forced kidnapping of children, forced kidnapping of girls and women including rape and compelled marriage, yes, I suppose it is...

I don't get what you are saying
Pp was not doing any of that, just dating

#WASPprivilege

This is just an attack. The OP just started the thread about two religions they didn’t think ever tried to convert people. I was just adding to the thread my personal experience. I was hardly a WASP. My relatives were poor Irish immigrants. I grew up poor and got through college working as a waitress. My BF was very wealthy and floated through life. I understand the horrible history in Europe. I had relatives that fought in the war. Sorry to offend you by adding to the thread my opinion.

NP
# attack wasn’t for you,
it was for the PP who said “she was just dating”.

[Anonymous]

I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

Wow. You sound like a joy but I think you’re a troll just looking to make others feel bad because you do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

Because spending eternity in a fire filled brimstone pit with a pointy tailed red man makes your real religions so much more worldly. Never mind the cosplay cannibalism that’s part of Catholic worship. Not Twilight Zone like for you at all huh?

See, for us, if you need to believe those things and do that type of worship to help you feel God and be a good person, totally cool. You do you. Just be a decent human being.

That religious supremacy ego stuff, the judgement mentality-
it only gets in the way of your spiritual development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

Because spending eternity in a fire filled brimstone pit with a pointy tailed red man makes your real religions so much more worldly. Never mind the cosplay cannibalism that’s part of Catholic worship. Not Twilight Zone like for you at all huh?

See, for us, if you need to believe those things and do that type of worship to help you feel God and be a good person, totally cool. You do you. Just be a decent human being.

That religious supremacy ego stuff, the judgement mentality-
it only gets in the way of your spiritual development.

I think PP is atheist having fun with religious people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

Because spending eternity in a fire filled brimstone pit with a pointy tailed red man makes your real religions so much more worldly. Never mind the cosplay cannibalism that’s part of Catholic worship. Not Twilight Zone like for you at all huh?

See, for us, if you need to believe those things and do that type of worship to help you feel God and be a good person, totally cool. You do you. Just be a decent human being.

That religious supremacy ego stuff, the judgement mentality-
it only gets in the way of your spiritual development.

I think PP is atheist having fun with religious people.

Sadly, that pp is not the first person on this thread to state what is a ‘real religion’ vs not real.

And it is not just this thread, as a Hindu, my beliefs have been challenged and dismissed many times by people like the pp. India is the prime target for conversion missions for this very reason. It is not acceptable or ‘real’ to those from Abrahamic world views.

[Anonymous]

How is Sadhguru perceived in India?

[Anonymous]

Well, Hinduism is older

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is Sadhguru perceived in India?

Why this question? He is very respected. Sadhguru is not the only guru in India.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is Sadhguru perceived in India?

Why this question? He is very respected. Sadhguru is not the only guru in India.

Trying to figure out if he is real guru or a marketing genius.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Although I am often amazed how little some folks who are Hindu know about other religions. Sounds like a start of a joke but a Catholic, Jew and Hindu at lunch was discussing religion. I threw out well Catholics believe Jesus is God and Jews believe he is a nice Jewish Boy who went into his fathers business. Both believe he existed but Jews do not believe he was messiah.

The Hindu was kinda shocked that Jews and Catholics both believe Jesus was a man who walked earth. Their Gods are more mythical not just walking among us.

But the part I found interesting the Hindu was born in New Jersey. Heck a cheesy Xmas cartoon you can see Jesus born as a person.

I know it's hard for you to try to understand another person's worldview, even though it's been pretty well explained in this thread. Hinduism is an inclusive religion and it's foundation is not based on a founder or singular person. It does not rely on one specific historical event to prove itself.

For someone that grows up learning that different religions are paths to a higher plane, it can be shocking for them to listen to an actual debate about one particular religious figure and the exclusivity surrounding them.

Yes, even someone born in NJ. Just as you learn that Jesus is the one and only Truth and believe it with all your soul, a Hindu learns to not judge another's religion and focus inward on our own path. So debating who's real and who's right is just not the goal.

As stated somewhere else in this thread, Hindus, by and large, do not study other religions as we are quite content with our own. We don't need to validate ourselves by trying to find what's wrong with other religions. So a cartoon of Jesus being born a person is nbd. To us, what should it matter if he was real or not, did you learn something good from his stories? Yes-great, live your life practicing that good.

See, we have and have had, multiple enlightened, God-like people born and walk the earth and teach us. From over 5,000 years ago up to present day. And for us, every single soul on earth has God within them. We are all part of One supreme higher power. So this reliance and debate (and wars and fighting) about one person can be incredibly baffling.

It's completely different from your worldview. It does not fit within the narrow, exclusive, Abrahamic paradigm at all. He was shocked by you both and you were shocked by him.

What are you taking about? I only am taking a guy who grew up in a heavy Catholic and Jewish area did not know Catholics and Jews believe Jesus actually walked the earth. Actually most people believe that even atheists and sun worshippers. Heck in New Jersey Jesus is on cross in the manager front lawns. Heck he worked at a company 95 percent Catholic and Jewish.

So? I don't go around asking my neighbors or colleagues for details about what they believe. If I wanted to know the basic tenets of Mormanism or whatever I'd look it up. Sounds like he wasn't interested, got along fine with everyone and didn't need to know the nitty-gritty of their belief systems.

Anyway, just because you are surrounded by something doesn't mean you absorb it, if you don't participate. My husband grew up in a heavily Jewish and Catholic area. He's Jewish and had all Jewish friends, even though there were plenty of Catholics around. He doesn't know anything about Catholicism. Like nada. Super uncomfortable inside a church, any church. I am also Jewish but I attended a Christian school. So I know a fair bit about basic Christian beliefs, but a lot of that comes from the religion classes that were part of the curriculum. Without those, I might not have absorbed that much. I may know the religious stuff but not the cultural, for example, because I've never experienced it. A Christian friend was recently talking about how everyone gives pajamas at "the holidays" and I had never heard of this apparently well-known phenomenon. I only learned recently, as a late-30s adult, that one waters a live Christmas tree. Etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

Because spending eternity in a fire filled brimstone pit with a pointy tailed red man makes your real religions so much more worldly. Never mind the cosplay cannibalism that’s part of Catholic worship. Not Twilight Zone like for you at all huh?

See, for us, if you need to believe those things and do that type of worship to help you feel God and be a good person, totally cool. You do you. Just be a decent human being.

That religious supremacy ego stuff, the judgement mentality-
it only gets in the way of your spiritual development.

I think PP is atheist having fun with religious people.

Sadly, that pp is not the first person on this thread to state what is a ‘real religion’ vs not real.

And it is not just this thread, as a Hindu, my beliefs have been challenged and dismissed many times by people like the pp. India is the prime target for conversion missions for this very reason. It is not acceptable or ‘real’ to those from Abrahamic world views.

India has been a prime target for conversion missions for thousands of years. India has been invaded for thousands of years. Yet, Hinduism continues strongly, unlike other countries that were similarly invaded and colonized and then largely lost their original religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I pretty much believe Catholic and Judaism are real religions.

Then you have Protestants which is Catholic light barely a religion

Then you have hedonism, pagans, sun worshipers, devil worshippers, atheists born agains and agnostics.

Sorry but believing if your karma is off you come back as a bug sounds like a Twilight Zone episode

Because spending eternity in a fire filled brimstone pit with a pointy tailed red man makes your real religions so much more worldly. Never mind the cosplay cannibalism that’s part of Catholic worship. Not Twilight Zone like for you at all huh?

See, for us, if you need to believe those things and do that type of worship to help you feel God and be a good person, totally cool. You do you. Just be a decent human being.

That religious supremacy ego stuff, the judgement mentality-
it only gets in the way of your spiritual development.

I think PP is atheist having fun with religious people.

Sadly, that pp is not the first person on this thread to state what is a ‘real religion’ vs not real.

And it is not just this thread, as a Hindu, my beliefs have been challenged and dismissed many times by people like the pp. India is the prime target for conversion missions for this very reason. It is not acceptable or ‘real’ to those from Abrahamic world views.

India has been a prime target for conversion missions for thousands of years. India has been invaded for thousands of years. Yet, Hinduism continues strongly, unlike other countries that were similarly invaded and colonized and then largely lost their original religion.

Yep. Also, people have been trying to convert Jews for thousands of years, and we’ve had multiple genocides perpetrated against us, and yet we persist!