Judaism and Hinduism.

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I do agree that there is a cultural component to both Judaism and Hinduism, but not tied to a specific country.

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately Hinduism and Judaism have strong cultural component.
Hinduism with Indian culture.
Judaism with Israel.
You have to have some kind of Cultural and historical connections with this Countries to belong.

Huh? This is such BS. Most Jews have no connection to Israel and belong just fine. You know the Jewish people existed way before the state of Israel?

Also, please be aware that there are many Hindus who do not live in India.

What a load of crock.

I think you missed the historical and cultural aspect of belonging.
The founding father was Abraham and God promised him the promised land.
For followers of Judaism Israel is the promised land.

I’m the PP you’re responding to. I’m Jewish and no — the current state of Israel is not the promised land. For many of us, Israel is as much a concept as it is a place.

Stop goysplaining to me.

Why don’t you answer the question OP is asking to the best of your knowledge?

Why? Are you quizzing me or something?

Jews don’t proselytize for several reasons:

1. We don’t believe you need to be Jewish to get into heaven. In fact, we don’t really agree on what happens after you die. Most proselytizing happens in order to “save” someone’s soul. Without a developed sense of an afterlife, there would be no justification for converting people.

2. We have been discriminated against for hundreds of years. There have been multiple genocides against us. That has made us wary of going out into the world and advertising our faith.

3. Ever since the destruction of the second temple, we haven’t had a large political infrastructure. Nothing like the Catholic Church or the infrastructure around Mormonism. We are fairly decentralized. A decentralized, largely diaspora religion isn’t well-suited to supporting a large, well-organized proselytizing operation.

NP here. I think the stronger reason is that we're an ethnoreligion. It's the way of our people, and your people can have their own ways. If you feel really, really moved to join our people, which involves leaving your own people behind and is not something to do lightly (and is kind of a slap in the face for your own ancestors, whoever they may have been), we have a formal procedure. But we have no business trying to boost our numbers by watering down our own community and traditions.

Ethno-religion is a good answer.
With this my “historical and cultural...” comment wasn’t crock of shit.

Sounds exclusive to the point of being elitist

It involves leaving your own people behind
If you convert, it is a slap in the face to your ancestors
It is a boost to our numbers but waters down our community

Perhaps the pp is a troll
Plenty of people have changed their religion and not left their people

That is not being elitist.
It will take more than just being a believer in the religion to be part of it.
Can you be an Amish by simply believing in what they believe?
I am sure, it takes more than that.

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There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

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Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

You might want to enlighten the billion practitioners of this "not real religion''

Amazing how you know so much more than them and their ancestors that have practiced for millennia, even before there were these "real religions'' of Abrahamic persuasion.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your divine grace, O Mother, for blessing the Biden-Harris campaign and for destroying the demons plaguing this nation. Please extend your grace and also destroy this pandemic soon! Peace be on Earth!

Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti!!

- A devout Hindu

[Anonymous]

It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

Sometimes members of a faith do not know themselves.
Open up a book on world religions. There is no need to actually meet a member of the faith to get some knowledge

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

Sometimes members of a faith do not know themselves.
Open up a book on world religions. There is no need to actually meet a member of the faith to get some knowledge

+1

Most people belong to a religion by birth.
They believe because their parents believe in it.
Even within the religious community there is conservative and liberal points of views.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't speak to Judaism, but as far as Hinduism goes- it is not an exclusionary style religion. It is inclusive.

Religions that claim to be the 'only truth' or the 'only right way' and that all other beliefs are 'false' by forming a dichotomy of 'false gods vs real god', seek out converts.

Hinduism does not entertain that dichotomy. There is only ONE. Your path may be different than mine, but ultimately there is ONE.

While some religions have creeds and prayers that praise their version of the only right way and others as wrong, the Hindu prayer is

Om Sarve Bhavantu Sukhinah, Sarve Santu Nir-Aamayaah |
Sarve Bhadraanni Pashyantu, Maa Kashcid-Duhkha-Bhaag-Bhavet |
Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||

may every one be happy, may every one be free from all diseases
may every one see goodness and auspiciousness in every thing, may none be unhappy or distressed
Om peace, peace, peace!

This article is a good description.
https://yogabharati.org/article-blog/sarve-bhavantu-sukhinah

Part of it is this:

"This English translation above doesn't do justice. We're not praying just for everyone. We are praying for "all", every-thing-person-animal-atom-energy-quanta that exists. We are praying for the the welfare of the entire Universe, with no exception for "us" or another."

This is a great explanation.

Signed,
Another Hindu

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

Sometimes members of a faith do not know themselves.
Open up a book on world religions. There is no need to actually meet a member of the faith to get some knowledge

+1

Most people belong to a religion by birth.
They believe because their parents believe in it.
Even within the religious community there is conservative and liberal points of views.

Thank you for making the pp’s point.

Pp stated clearly that it’s always people not of a CERTAIN faith that try to school those that do practice about their own religion.

We’ve seen it here on this one thread over and over and over.

I read and UNDERSTAND my own SCRIPTURES not the glossed over, whitewashed, coming from a Western world point of view, and unconscious or conscious bias from the author ‘world religion’ book you picked up off Amazon or your college 101 section that made you feel so enlightened.

But thanks again for trying to school (and harvest the souls) of those heathens that just don’t know anything and blindly follow what they’ve been born into.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

You might want to enlighten the billion practitioners of this "not real religion''

Amazing how you know so much more than them and their ancestors that have practiced for millennia, even before there were these "real religions'' of Abrahamic persuasion.

Kamala is Baptist why is that?

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Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

You might want to enlighten the billion practitioners of this "not real religion''

Amazing how you know so much more than them and their ancestors that have practiced for millennia, even before there were these "real religions'' of Abrahamic persuasion.

Kamala is Baptist why is that?

Ask Kamala.

What’s your point?

And it’s pretty obvious the whole Baptist bit is for political points. Born into a mixed Hindu and Baptist family. Married to a Jewish man and has Jewish step-kids. She doesn’t seem to espouse to the one belief system, which is actually very Hindu of her.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

Sometimes members of a faith do not know themselves.
Open up a book on world religions. There is no need to actually meet a member of the faith to get some knowledge

+1

Most people belong to a religion by birth.
They believe because their parents believe in it.
Even within the religious community there is conservative and liberal points of views.

Thank you for making the pp’s point.

Pp stated clearly that it’s always people not of a CERTAIN faith that try to school those that do practice about their own religion.

We’ve seen it here on this one thread over and over and over.

I read and UNDERSTAND my own SCRIPTURES not the glossed over, whitewashed, coming from a Western world point of view, and unconscious or conscious bias from the author ‘world religion’ book you picked up off Amazon or your college 101 section that made you feel so enlightened.

But thanks again for trying to school (and harvest the souls) of those heathens that just don’t know anything and blindly follow what they’ve been born into.

Interesting that you use the word heathens. I associate that term with catholicism and colonial era politics. It is not in use anymore and I very rarely come across it. Sounds like in this context it is being used for self pity purposes

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

Sometimes members of a faith do not know themselves.
Open up a book on world religions. There is no need to actually meet a member of the faith to get some knowledge

+1

Most people belong to a religion by birth.
They believe because their parents believe in it.
Even within the religious community there is conservative and liberal points of views.

Thank you for making the pp’s point.

Pp stated clearly that it’s always people not of a CERTAIN faith that try to school those that do practice about their own religion.

We’ve seen it here on this one thread over and over and over.

I read and UNDERSTAND my own SCRIPTURES not the glossed over, whitewashed, coming from a Western world point of view, and unconscious or conscious bias from the author ‘world religion’ book you picked up off Amazon or your college 101 section that made you feel so enlightened.

But thanks again for trying to school (and harvest the souls) of those heathens that just don’t know anything and blindly follow what they’ve been born into.

Interesting that you use the word heathens. I associate that term with catholicism and colonial era politics. It is not in use anymore and I very rarely come across it. Sounds like in this context it is being used for self pity purposes

It sounds like you live in a privileged bubble. It’s very sad that you are so unaware.

I associate that term with one of the names I’ve been called (growing up here in America) along with being chastised about how I’m going to go to Hell. It’s also very broadly used along with lots of other derogatory names with missionary groups in India and here when confronting Hindus. The tactics are starting to soften now though, more things like ‘ you can still be Hindu, you just need to accept Christ as as a savior, don’t worry you will still have your culture..” wouldn’t be surprised if you’re the ‘Christian Hindu’ poster from above.

You’re doing yourself no favors by continually posting on matters you have no clue about and have not lived.
If you really need to get your holier than thou rocks off though, bring out those missionary tactic books, I’d love to hear more.

I’m a PROUD heathen, pagan, nature praying, multiple Gods and Goddesses loving, ‘idol worshiper’ . Your names empower me.

Jai Mata Di! 🙏🏽🕉🕉🕉
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti OM

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always striking how people who are not members of a certain faith will attempt to explain to a practitioner what in fact their faith really is. It’s amusing but also really ignorant.

Sometimes members of a faith do not know themselves.
Open up a book on world religions. There is no need to actually meet a member of the faith to get some knowledge

+1

Most people belong to a religion by birth.
They believe because their parents believe in it.
Even within the religious community there is conservative and liberal points of views.

Thank you for making the pp’s point.

Pp stated clearly that it’s always people not of a CERTAIN faith that try to school those that do practice about their own religion.

We’ve seen it here on this one thread over and over and over.

I read and UNDERSTAND my own SCRIPTURES not the glossed over, whitewashed, coming from a Western world point of view, and unconscious or conscious bias from the author ‘world religion’ book you picked up off Amazon or your college 101 section that made you feel so enlightened.

But thanks again for trying to school (and harvest the souls) of those heathens that just don’t know anything and blindly follow what they’ve been born into.

Interesting that you use the word heathens. I associate that term with catholicism and colonial era politics. It is not in use anymore and I very rarely come across it. Sounds like in this context it is being used for self pity purposes

It sounds like you live in a privileged bubble. It’s very sad that you are so unaware.

I associate that term with one of the names I’ve been called (growing up here in America) along with being chastised about how I’m going to go to Hell. It’s also very broadly used along with lots of other derogatory names with missionary groups in India and here when confronting Hindus. The tactics are starting to soften now though, more things like ‘ you can still be Hindu, you just need to accept Christ as as a savior, don’t worry you will still have your culture..” wouldn’t be surprised if you’re the ‘Christian Hindu’ poster from above.

You’re doing yourself no favors by continually posting on matters you have no clue about and have not lived.
If you really need to get your holier than thou rocks off though, bring out those missionary tactic books, I’d love to hear more.

I’m a PROUD heathen, pagan, nature praying, multiple Gods and Goddesses loving, ‘idol worshiper’ . Your names empower me.

Jai Mata Di! 🙏🏽🕉🕉🕉
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti OM

I am the PP that said most people belong to a religion by birth.
If you are born in India most likely you will follow Hinduism .
If you are born in Saudi Arabia there is 99% probability you will be Muslim.
If you are born in majority Christian country there is great chance you will be Christian.

My point is you can be Hindu and be a great scholar of Christianity.