Judaism and Hinduism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only time I ever felt pressure to convert to another religion was when dating my Jewish boyfriend. It was a constant topic of conversation. Both he and his parents brought it up constantly with me. I must convert and our future children must be raised Jewish. There would be no compromise at all. No shared religion. I was young so it made me feel terrible. After a few years we broke up. The pressure was too much. He married someone else and yes she converted.

That is an interesting point to the discussion.

Without the context of thousands of years of auto-de-fes, farhuds, pogroms, the Shoah, dimmi, forced kidnapping of children, forced kidnapping of girls and women including rape and compelled marriage, yes, I suppose it is...

I don't get what you are saying
Pp was not doing any of that, just dating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

There are over a billion Hindus in the world. Are you seriously saying the religion isn’t real? I hope you’re confused like pp suggests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

There are over a billion Hindus in the world. Are you seriously saying the religion isn’t real? I hope you’re confused like pp suggests.

Of course not. I’m saying you can’t be Christian and Hindu! They’re both major religions, and Hinduism is not a made up religion like that PP stated!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

There are over a billion Hindus in the world. Are you seriously saying the religion isn’t real? I hope you’re confused like pp suggests.

Of course not. I’m saying you can’t be Christian and Hindu! They’re both major religions, and Hinduism is not a made up religion like that PP stated!

I worked with a man who actually is born in India and has a Catholic Saint first name (like John), his Hindu Dad was rich and Vain and wanted to Donate to his Temple but wanted his name on it. They really don’t do that. There was a Priest near his location who was trying to build something to help the poor. They said of course you can have your name on the building. He became obsessed with Catholic Churches and the beauty of the buildings and how they are standing 1,000 years later and loved the legacy aspect. Well he not only built the building for poor he helped them build a beautiful Catholic Church. Then he went one further, he baptized his son and did the whole communion and confirmation. His son is nice, married a nice Hindu girl have three kids and they live in the DC area.

I was speaking to wife once, she talked religion. She knows I am Catholic and she was taking about story saying husband used to be Catholic. Anyhow I asked her I did not know there was a formal way to uncatholic yourself on your own. There is excommunication. She said no he just decided to do more Hindu things. The kids they like fun American things so I know they put up an Xmas tree, do Easter Egg hunt. His father is still alive and a Catholic and then while on vacation as a family they visited the church his Dad helped built and took pictures with Priest.

Is he Catholic? Is he Hindu? Is he both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Although I am often amazed how little some folks who are Hindu know about other religions. Sounds like a start of a joke but a Catholic, Jew and Hindu at lunch was discussing religion. I threw out well Catholics believe Jesus is God and Jews believe he is a nice Jewish Boy who went into his fathers business. Both believe he existed but Jews do not believe he was messiah.

The Hindu was kinda shocked that Jews and Catholics both believe Jesus was a man who walked earth. Their Gods are more mythical not just walking among us.

But the part I found interesting the Hindu was born in New Jersey. Heck a cheesy Xmas cartoon you can see Jesus born as a person.

I know it's hard for you to try to understand another person's worldview, even though it's been pretty well explained in this thread. Hinduism is an inclusive religion and it's foundation is not based on a founder or singular person. It does not rely on one specific historical event to prove itself.

For someone that grows up learning that different religions are paths to a higher plane, it can be shocking for them to listen to an actual debate about one particular religious figure and the exclusivity surrounding them.

Yes, even someone born in NJ. Just as you learn that Jesus is the one and only Truth and believe it with all your soul, a Hindu learns to not judge another's religion and focus inward on our own path. So debating who's real and who's right is just not the goal.

As stated somewhere else in this thread, Hindus, by and large, do not study other religions as we are quite content with our own. We don't need to validate ourselves by trying to find what's wrong with other religions. So a cartoon of Jesus being born a person is nbd. To us, what should it matter if he was real or not, did you learn something good from his stories? Yes-great, live your life practicing that good.

See, we have and have had, multiple enlightened, God-like people born and walk the earth and teach us. From over 5,000 years ago up to present day. And for us, every single soul on earth has God within them. We are all part of One supreme higher power. So this reliance and debate (and wars and fighting) about one person can be incredibly baffling.

It's completely different from your worldview. It does not fit within the narrow, exclusive, Abrahamic paradigm at all. He was shocked by you both and you were shocked by him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

There are over a billion Hindus in the world. Are you seriously saying the religion isn’t real? I hope you’re confused like pp suggests.

Of course not. I’m saying you can’t be Christian and Hindu! They’re both major religions, and Hinduism is not a made up religion like that PP stated!

I worked with a man who actually is born in India and has a Catholic Saint first name (like John), his Hindu Dad was rich and Vain and wanted to Donate to his Temple but wanted his name on it. They really don’t do that. There was a Priest near his location who was trying to build something to help the poor. They said of course you can have your name on the building. He became obsessed with Catholic Churches and the beauty of the buildings and how they are standing 1,000 years later and loved the legacy aspect. Well he not only built the building for poor he helped them build a beautiful Catholic Church. Then he went one further, he baptized his son and did the whole communion and confirmation. His son is nice, married a nice Hindu girl have three kids and they live in the DC area.

I was speaking to wife once, she talked religion. She knows I am Catholic and she was taking about story saying husband used to be Catholic. Anyhow I asked her I did not know there was a formal way to uncatholic yourself on your own. There is excommunication. She said no he just decided to do more Hindu things. The kids they like fun American things so I know they put up an Xmas tree, do Easter Egg hunt. His father is still alive and a Catholic and then while on vacation as a family they visited the church his Dad helped built and took pictures with Priest.

Is he Catholic? Is he Hindu? Is he both?

I don't know why you're confused here. He's Hindu. There is no formal conversion process in Hinduism. You don't need to un-whatever yourself first. His dad converted to put his name on a building. That doesn't mean the son is stuck to that faith for the rest of eternity. We don't have any issues going to a church and taking pictures. Xmas trees and egg hunts are pretty ingrained as part of the American cultural fabric and people from lots of religions partake.

Gosh, all these anecdotal stores about the random "I went to lunch with/ or worked with a Hindu". Ya'll are experts now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

I am Hindu, yet go to Easter and Christmas services, went to Bible school as a child, and plan on sending my kids to it as well. We also have a Hindu shrine in our home and recite prayers daily.

I consider myself to be Hindu, though, not Christian, because my understanding is that Christianity does not let you simultaneously practice other religions, while Hinduism does -- praying at a church on Easter Sunday "counts" as prayer in Hinduism, but my praying at Hindu temples doesn't count in the same way in Christian religions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only time I ever felt pressure to convert to another religion was when dating my Jewish boyfriend. It was a constant topic of conversation. Both he and his parents brought it up constantly with me. I must convert and our future children must be raised Jewish. There would be no compromise at all. No shared religion. I was young so it made me feel terrible. After a few years we broke up. The pressure was too much. He married someone else and yes she converted.

That is an interesting point to the discussion.

Without the context of thousands of years of auto-de-fes, farhuds, pogroms, the Shoah, dimmi, forced kidnapping of children, forced kidnapping of girls and women including rape and compelled marriage, yes, I suppose it is...

I don't get what you are saying
Pp was not doing any of that, just dating

NP
I think,the answer was for “interesting point “.
The interest to convert spouses is because of historical genocide

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only time I ever felt pressure to convert to another religion was when dating my Jewish boyfriend. It was a constant topic of conversation. Both he and his parents brought it up constantly with me. I must convert and our future children must be raised Jewish. There would be no compromise at all. No shared religion. I was young so it made me feel terrible. After a few years we broke up. The pressure was too much. He married someone else and yes she converted.

That is an interesting point to the discussion.

Without the context of thousands of years of auto-de-fes, farhuds, pogroms, the Shoah, dimmi, forced kidnapping of children, forced kidnapping of girls and women including rape and compelled marriage, yes, I suppose it is...

I don't get what you are saying
Pp was not doing any of that, just dating

NP
I think,the answer was for “interesting point “.
The interest to convert spouses is because of historical genocide

Right. There’s a sense among many Jews that we have a duty to perpetuate the tribe, so to speak, as something of an act of defiance against the multiple genocide attempts we as a people have gone through.

On some level, that means defining our choices by the actions of our oppressors, but that’s a broader, much more complicated, discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only time I ever felt pressure to convert to another religion was when dating my Jewish boyfriend. It was a constant topic of conversation. Both he and his parents brought it up constantly with me. I must convert and our future children must be raised Jewish. There would be no compromise at all. No shared religion. I was young so it made me feel terrible. After a few years we broke up. The pressure was too much. He married someone else and yes she converted.

That is an interesting point to the discussion.

Without the context of thousands of years of auto-de-fes, farhuds, pogroms, the Shoah, dimmi, forced kidnapping of children, forced kidnapping of girls and women including rape and compelled marriage, yes, I suppose it is...

I don't get what you are saying
Pp was not doing any of that, just dating

#WASPprivilege

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are Christian Hindus. Hinduism is not a real religion so you can be Hindu and Jewish or Hindu and Catholic

What?? There are no Christian Hindus. There are Indian Christians and Indian Jews and Indian Catholics. Hindu does not equal Indian.

There are over a billion Hindus in the world. Are you seriously saying the religion isn’t real? I hope you’re confused like pp suggests.

Of course not. I’m saying you can’t be Christian and Hindu! They’re both major religions, and Hinduism is not a made up religion like that PP stated!

I am agreeing with you and addressing the previous poster.
It is mind-boggling that someone thinks Hinduism isn't a real religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although I am often amazed how little some folks who are Hindu know about other religions. Sounds like a start of a joke but a Catholic, Jew and Hindu at lunch was discussing religion. I threw out well Catholics believe Jesus is God and Jews believe he is a nice Jewish Boy who went into his fathers business. Both believe he existed but Jews do not believe he was messiah.

The Hindu was kinda shocked that Jews and Catholics both believe Jesus was a man who walked earth. Their Gods are more mythical not just walking among us.

But the part I found interesting the Hindu was born in New Jersey. Heck a cheesy Xmas cartoon you can see Jesus born as a person.

I know it's hard for you to try to understand another person's worldview, even though it's been pretty well explained in this thread. Hinduism is an inclusive religion and it's foundation is not based on a founder or singular person. It does not rely on one specific historical event to prove itself.

For someone that grows up learning that different religions are paths to a higher plane, it can be shocking for them to listen to an actual debate about one particular religious figure and the exclusivity surrounding them.

Yes, even someone born in NJ. Just as you learn that Jesus is the one and only Truth and believe it with all your soul, a Hindu learns to not judge another's religion and focus inward on our own path. So debating who's real and who's right is just not the goal.

As stated somewhere else in this thread, Hindus, by and large, do not study other religions as we are quite content with our own. We don't need to validate ourselves by trying to find what's wrong with other religions. So a cartoon of Jesus being born a person is nbd. To us, what should it matter if he was real or not, did you learn something good from his stories? Yes-great, live your life practicing that good.

See, we have and have had, multiple enlightened, God-like people born and walk the earth and teach us. From over 5,000 years ago up to present day. And for us, every single soul on earth has God within them. We are all part of One supreme higher power. So this reliance and debate (and wars and fighting) about one person can be incredibly baffling.

It's completely different from your worldview. It does not fit within the narrow, exclusive, Abrahamic paradigm at all. He was shocked by you both and you were shocked by him.

What are you taking about? I only am taking a guy who grew up in a heavy Catholic and Jewish area did not know Catholics and Jews believe Jesus actually walked the earth. Actually most people believe that even atheists and sun worshippers. Heck in New Jersey Jesus is on cross in the manager front lawns. Heck he worked at a company 95 percent Catholic and Jewish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although I am often amazed how little some folks who are Hindu know about other religions. Sounds like a start of a joke but a Catholic, Jew and Hindu at lunch was discussing religion. I threw out well Catholics believe Jesus is God and Jews believe he is a nice Jewish Boy who went into his fathers business. Both believe he existed but Jews do not believe he was messiah.

The Hindu was kinda shocked that Jews and Catholics both believe Jesus was a man who walked earth. Their Gods are more mythical not just walking among us.

But the part I found interesting the Hindu was born in New Jersey. Heck a cheesy Xmas cartoon you can see Jesus born as a person.

I know it's hard for you to try to understand another person's worldview, even though it's been pretty well explained in this thread. Hinduism is an inclusive religion and it's foundation is not based on a founder or singular person. It does not rely on one specific historical event to prove itself.

For someone that grows up learning that different religions are paths to a higher plane, it can be shocking for them to listen to an actual debate about one particular religious figure and the exclusivity surrounding them.

Yes, even someone born in NJ. Just as you learn that Jesus is the one and only Truth and believe it with all your soul, a Hindu learns to not judge another's religion and focus inward on our own path. So debating who's real and who's right is just not the goal.

As stated somewhere else in this thread, Hindus, by and large, do not study other religions as we are quite content with our own. We don't need to validate ourselves by trying to find what's wrong with other religions. So a cartoon of Jesus being born a person is nbd. To us, what should it matter if he was real or not, did you learn something good from his stories? Yes-great, live your life practicing that good.

See, we have and have had, multiple enlightened, God-like people born and walk the earth and teach us. From over 5,000 years ago up to present day. And for us, every single soul on earth has God within them. We are all part of One supreme higher power. So this reliance and debate (and wars and fighting) about one person can be incredibly baffling.

It's completely different from your worldview. It does not fit within the narrow, exclusive, Abrahamic paradigm at all. He was shocked by you both and you were shocked by him.

What are you taking about? I only am taking a guy who grew up in a heavy Catholic and Jewish area did not know Catholics and Jews believe Jesus actually walked the earth. Actually most people believe that even atheists and sun worshippers. Heck in New Jersey Jesus is on cross in the manager front lawns. Heck he worked at a company 95 percent Catholic and Jewish.

Heck, I'm not sure why you keep posting your faux outrage on this thread about the Hindu you had lunch with.

And heck, why don't you know that Hindus do worship the sun? Surya Namaskar is not just your exercise routine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only time I ever felt pressure to convert to another religion was when dating my Jewish boyfriend. It was a constant topic of conversation. Both he and his parents brought it up constantly with me. I must convert and our future children must be raised Jewish. There would be no compromise at all. No shared religion. I was young so it made me feel terrible. After a few years we broke up. The pressure was too much. He married someone else and yes she converted.

That is an interesting point to the discussion.

Without the context of thousands of years of auto-de-fes, farhuds, pogroms, the Shoah, dimmi, forced kidnapping of children, forced kidnapping of girls and women including rape and compelled marriage, yes, I suppose it is...

I don't get what you are saying
Pp was not doing any of that, just dating

#WASPprivilege

This is just an attack. The OP just started the thread about two religions they didn’t think ever tried to convert people. I was just adding to the thread my personal experience. I was hardly a WASP. My relatives were poor Irish immigrants. I grew up poor and got through college working as a waitress. My BF was very wealthy and floated through life. I understand the horrible history in Europe. I had relatives that fought in the war. Sorry to offend you by adding to the thread my opinion.