Schools for a kid with 1490?

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Anonymous wrote:My DS also has a 1490, more rigor (9 APs) but weak ECs. The only highly ranked school he's applying to is UVA. All the other top schools where technically his stats are a match...1) I'm sure he won't get in as your average high-stats white boy with mediocre ECs and 2) even if by some chance he got in, those schools only give need aid which we won't get but we can't afford full pay. It's still highly unlikely he gets into UVA (based on our school's Naviance) but at least if he did, we could pay for it.

I think he'd have a lot better shot at highly ranked SLACs and possibly get merit since boys tend to be at an advantage with SLACs but he really wants the big college experience. So, he's focused on big state schools with honors colleges. Either in-state or OOs that give merit.

Apply to Delaware! He’ll be in the honors college and get aid. It kind of feels like uva. Great school and he’ll love it.

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vandy loves your money, not your kid

Wait list offers/admits are ALWAYS for full pay.

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Anonymous wrote:my ds got into Vandy off waitlist this year with 1480. 3.8 gpa from private school. Full pay helps I am pretty sure

Vandy cares more about SAT than GPA and full pay is great.

Hmm, anyone care to chance a full pay URM with a 1510 and 3.47, at Vandy?

Looking around in that range, it seems to me that Notre Dame cares more about GPA than scores, and being need-blind, full pay won't help - can anyone confirm?

To the PPs discussing Rice, per Naviance Rice admits fewer kids than HYPS from our private high school out west. Same for Duke and Northwestern.

White or Asian? No way. URM? Good chance.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to MIT with that score...

Did you have a hook or two? Were you full-pay? That doesn't hurt.

I had a national award, leadership positions, volunteer work and a 4.0, top 5 in the school. I was not full pay but didn't receive that much in aid and got scholarships to cover that aid.

Me too boomer. It’s a new f’ing world for the white unhooked applicants coming from competitive suburban high schools. Keep up or keep quiet.

I'm a millennial...

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Anonymous wrote:gds

vandy loves your money, not your kid

Wait list offers/admits are ALWAYS for full pay.

I know this is going to sound terrible but what about the mid families? We have two parents working and make a good salary together. But, its expensive to live in a city. So, we won't qualify for aid but cannot full pay. I should just quit my job and then apply for financial aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Too low for UVA.

Tell that to my kid who got into UVA with a 1490 regular decision last spring. No hooks, NoVa public.

For an average Nova or OOS student it is too low. 1500 is the 75th percentile for those students who accepted and a 4.49 is the 75th percentile GPS. Are you low income, quest ridge. Blue rifge scholar, URM, first generation or basketball

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Anonymous wrote:OP: Her list includes Cornell, Princeton, Georgetown, Univ. of Notre Dame, Rice and Carleton --- in that order I believe, and then some "safety" schools. She would love to add Harvard/Yale but knows that is not possible so they are now off.

PLEASE tell us she URM or recruitable!! You are so naive if she doesn’t have a hook ...

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Anonymous wrote:Too low for UVA.

Tell that to my kid who got into UVA with a 1490 regular decision last spring. No hooks, NoVa public.

For an average Nova or OOS student it is too low. 1500 is the 75th percentile for those students who accepted and a 4.49 is the 75th percentile GPS. Are you low income, quest ridge. Blue rifge scholar, URM, first generation or basketball

OP: Nope. So, I guess we have confirmed the counselors "meh"

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Anonymous wrote:Too low for UVA.

Tell that to my kid who got into UVA with a 1490 regular decision last spring. No hooks, NoVa public.

For an average Nova or OOS student it is too low. 1500 is the 75th percentile for those students who accepted and a 4.49 is the 75th percentile GPS. Are you low income, quest ridge. Blue rifge scholar, URM, first generation or basketball

OP: Nope. So, I guess we have confirmed the counselors "meh"

OP: The sad of it is that she was a 780 for the English but only a 710 for the math - she plans to never take math again and just focus on history and poli sci in college.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to MIT with that score...

Did you have a hook or two? Were you full-pay? That doesn't hurt.

No, I bet different generation. Maybe in 70s or early 80s.

Mid 2000s

hard to believe given sat changed to 2400 pt scale in 2005 but whatever.

...it changed back in 2016 to 1600...


...that said another poster is correct my score back then is equivalent to a 1500+ now by percentiles

Really? NP, and sorry for the thread drift, but I'm curious about this. I'm old - got something like a 1420 or 1430 back in the mid 90s, and got in to both Caltech and MIT (chose Caltech). But I think it was a 790 in math, lower in verbal, so I doubt I would have gotten into any Ivies - didn't try. The numbers I hear today are insane... Are they really the equivalent of my 1420?

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She needs more match schools. If you are full pay look at BC, NYU, Miami, Wisconsin and University of Washington (since she's not a CS major).

Also check graduation requirements because it's not always easy to get a degree without taking math. Unless, she will have Calc AP scores to test out of requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to MIT with that score...

Did you have a hook or two? Were you full-pay? That doesn't hurt.

No, I bet different generation. Maybe in 70s or early 80s.

Mid 2000s

hard to believe given sat changed to 2400 pt scale in 2005 but whatever.

...it changed back in 2016 to 1600...


...that said another poster is correct my score back then is equivalent to a 1500+ now by percentiles

Really? NP, and sorry for the thread drift, but I'm curious about this. I'm old - got something like a 1420 or 1430 back in the mid 90s, and got in to both Caltech and MIT (chose Caltech). But I think it was a 790 in math, lower in verbal, so I doubt I would have gotten into any Ivies - didn't try. The numbers I hear today are insane... Are they really the equivalent of my 1420?

I just think competition and prep have gone up. If you had a 1410 you'd go anywhere almost. Not now. But, back then, you took the SAT once, maybe twice with no help and you applied to three maybe four schools. Done.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to MIT with that score...

Did you have a hook or two? Were you full-pay? That doesn't hurt.

No, I bet different generation. Maybe in 70s or early 80s.

Mid 2000s

hard to believe given sat changed to 2400 pt scale in 2005 but whatever.

...it changed back in 2016 to 1600...


...that said another poster is correct my score back then is equivalent to a 1500+ now by percentiles

Really? NP, and sorry for the thread drift, but I'm curious about this. I'm old - got something like a 1420 or 1430 back in the mid 90s, and got in to both Caltech and MIT (chose Caltech). But I think it was a 790 in math, lower in verbal, so I doubt I would have gotten into any Ivies - didn't try. The numbers I hear today are insane... Are they really the equivalent of my 1420?

Yeah sounds about right:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT

Looks like the 99th percentile drifts up 40 points every 10 years or so

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Anonymous wrote:Too low for UVA.

Tell that to my kid who got into UVA with a 1490 regular decision last spring. No hooks, NoVa public.

For an average Nova or OOS student it is too low. 1500 is the 75th percentile for those students who accepted and a 4.49 is the 75th percentile GPS. Are you low income, quest ridge. Blue rifge scholar, URM, first generation or basketball

OP: Nope. So, I guess we have confirmed the counselors "meh"

OP: The sad of it is that she was a 780 for the English but only a 710 for the math - she plans to never take math again and just focus on history and poli sci in college.

OP; if she’s aiming that high she should be taking the SAt II subject matter tests. Ask the counselor

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OP here: She took world history subject test and got a 800. Again, she's good on the english/history side. She was going to take more but with tests canceled, we now won't.