Any word on swim meets?

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Were you a bully in high school too?

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Anonymous wrote:my niece and nephew in RIchmond are having swim meets. they have electronic timers, 1 parent is allowed on deck to watch ea race, everyone waits outside under their own tents, they have to leisurely swim to the other end of the pool to get out closer to the doors, plexiglass in between the lanes at that end only.

That would mean the county and team would have to use some of the money to retrofit the pools which they aren't willing to do. They cannot even keep even temperatures with the heat in the winter.

It isn't much of a retrofit for touch pads, there are pools in the area that have them. They are put on for meets and then removed. They are expensive though. And I don't think that there is a lot of extra money floating around to make it happen. The clubs should be able to do it - particularly Machine, NCAP, etc that are more expensive. I do not see summer community pools pulling it off because so many of them are working at the margin.

The county/RMSC isn't going to spend that kind of money on meets. They don't even give out the t-shirts anymore. And, at best we have 2-3 coaches for 70 kids. Ideally they should do it as its more accurate but its not going to happen as they only do the minimum. They cannot even give us our deposits back or credit them like they said they would to this years swim. (if we want them back, we can do a request through the county but we haven't even gotten credited the money yet). County summer pool swim teams should be given them from the county but they aren't really given much of anything and some teams have a good parent rep who puts money/time into it and others don't.

Make your way back to the RMSC thread please. Or better yet, find a different club. You are really bitter about the t-shirt thing. It is weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Do you also find track/running to be boring sports? Or triathlons? Swimming, biking and running don't require coordination, but lots of people still enjoy these sports.


I think everyone has different opinion on what is ans isn't interesting. There are sports that require more coordination that I find completely painful and boring, look at you baseball.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

What an odd, ignorant question.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

You are an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Okay. Serious answer. So my kids are all pretty good swimmers, top 20% which means nothing - they aren't doing it for scholarships, etc. They also play basketball competitively - and are quite good. They run track and do cross country. I pushed swim when they were little because I wanted them to be strong swimmers - so when we were at the beach or lake, I would know they could handle. But then they had talent and enjoyed it. Additionally, I am a competitive runner and as I age, running becomes hard on the body and I found swimming to be great exercise. But, I had to relearn technique and breathing. I would rather my kids always have swiming to fall back on when they hit their 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. Unlike a lot of parents on this board, my whole family chooses athletics as a way of life. I just do not encounter many 40 year olds that are still playing on soccer teams or any teams anymore. But I do know people who cycle, run, and bike. So being a swimmer is an excellent sport if you plan to be healthy for life.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Okay. Serious answer. So my kids are all pretty good swimmers, top 20% which means nothing - they aren't doing it for scholarships, etc. They also play basketball competitively - and are quite good. They run track and do cross country. I pushed swim when they were little because I wanted them to be strong swimmers - so when we were at the beach or lake, I would know they could handle. But then they had talent and enjoyed it. Additionally, I am a competitive runner and as I age, running becomes hard on the body and I found swimming to be great exercise. But, I had to relearn technique and breathing. I would rather my kids always have swiming to fall back on when they hit their 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. Unlike a lot of parents on this board, my whole family chooses athletics as a way of life. I just do not encounter many 40 year olds that are still playing on soccer teams or any teams anymore. But I do know people who cycle, run, and bike. So being a swimmer is an excellent sport if you plan to be healthy for life.

Excellent response.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Do you also find track/running to be boring sports? Or triathlons? Swimming, biking and running don't require coordination, but lots of people still enjoy these sports.


I think everyone has different opinion on what is ans isn't interesting. There are sports that require more coordination that I find completely painful and boring, look at you baseball.

Lol that you think swimming does not require coordination. You obviously know nothing about the sport.

Swimming well and competitively (not just joining summer league, but qualifying for the true competitive teams and events) requires far more athleticism, coordination, and endurance than most sports. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Do you also find track/running to be boring sports? Or triathlons? Swimming, biking and running don't require coordination, but lots of people still enjoy these sports.


I think everyone has different opinion on what is ans isn't interesting. There are sports that require more coordination that I find completely painful and boring, look at you baseball.

Lol that you think swimming does not require coordination. You obviously know nothing about the sport.

Swimming well and competitively (not just joining summer league, but qualifying for the true competitive teams and events) requires far more athleticism, coordination, and endurance than most sports. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Well they said hand-eye coordination which is not really required in swimming. But body coordination certainly is, and definitely more athleticism and endurance than most sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Please leave and go back to the dedicated lacrosse forum!

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question. Why do people choose to swim unless your kid is uncoordinated and can’t play more interesting sports. Are most swimmers just kids who wash out in other sports and need a sport where you don’t have to any hand eye coordination or handle physicality?

Do you also find track/running to be boring sports? Or triathlons? Swimming, biking and running don't require coordination, but lots of people still enjoy these sports.


I think everyone has different opinion on what is ans isn't interesting. There are sports that require more coordination that I find completely painful and boring, look at you baseball.

Lol that you think swimming does not require coordination. You obviously know nothing about the sport.

Swimming well and competitively (not just joining summer league, but qualifying for the true competitive teams and events) requires far more athleticism, coordination, and endurance than most sports. You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

Well they said hand-eye coordination which is not really required in swimming. But body coordination certainly is, and definitely more athleticism and endurance than most sports.

True, but no one would seriously compare the fitness of a baseball player who has great hand-eye coordination to the fitness of a competitive swimmer or a water polo player who also has great hand eye coordination.

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Anonymous wrote:Some kids are born hypercompetitive. I know that two of mine are and will work harder if something is at stake like qualifying times, making finals, medaling and time standards. It doesnt make yours better or worse if they aren't wired that way. It's just who they are.

You aren't born hyper competitive. Its parenting.

To an extent maybe. But I have three kids. One hyper competitive, one could care less, and one competitive but not as much. A lot is just innate.

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I don't understand why everyone has to be so judgmental and throw around generalization on here. Some kids enjoy meets and competing and there is nothing wrong with that. It doesn't mean their parents are pushing them or that we want them to get a scholarship.

I have 2 kids under 13. One is very competitive the other not so much. My competitive one loves swimming and is happy to swim even when he isn't competing, but he does still care about his times and wants to know if he is improving. He doesn't swim at a meet to beat everyone, there are plenty of kids who are a lot faster than him, but he does love to race and push his limits and see if he is improving his times. Meets also allow him to try new events that he wouldn't normally do.

I disagree that kids under 13 don't need meets. Some kids like my son enjoy meets to push themselves. I am a runner. I am not at all fast. I enjoy running even when I am not racing or training for a race. I still enjoy the occasional race though to push my limits and see what I can do.

Our club has mentioned having intrasquad meets. And I heard something about being able to post unofficial times just for your own records.

Now do i miss meets. Hell no! I have loved having free weekends and the fact that it has allowed us to get out and do more outdoor activities like hiking. But I do hope that the kids can have some meets to at least see where they stand.

Kids don't need meets. They are fun and social. Big difference. We will not do any meets this year with COVID. Its not worth the risk. A few meets a year is plenty.

There is more to a meet than being fun and social, as I said above some kids enjoy competing and getting their best times.

I am also not saying we need to have the big meets with multiple clubs, 150 kids swimming 50 free and T-shirt that we have never once bought. I am good with that. As I said above I definitely don't miss spending all weekend at a swim meet. But I do hope our team can do smaller team "meets" where kids can compete against one another and get some times. That's all.

Meets are not safe. It’s all about winning for you. Hey, who cares if another kid gets Covid and shares it with their parent who dies as long as my kid can beat that kid at a meet. We get it. Let’s just say yours is number one, they won the meet and be responsible with Covid.

Did you read anything I wrote or do you just have poor reading comprehension?

Kids never win at meets. They do them to get their times.

Why is everything a personal attack on someone’s character?

The are ways to safely do meets. If kids can swim indoors they can have some sort of meet/timed event.

You are attacking others and its clear you are the one pushing things for your kid. You come across as really nasty and expect no one to say anything back. By demanding meets and saying its ok to put 4-6 or more kids in a lane right now is safe, it isn't especially when someone like you is probably taking far more risks than a family like us. Its unfair we are forced to go back to an unsafe situation or lose our spot because of the choices of others. If we were under quarantine, no eating out, no traveling, no in person school, no socializing in creative justifications, it would be safer. As it is now, its not.

DP- you are nuts. Get help. It’s clear to me that you think anyone whose kid is more competitive than yours is miserable and being pushed by their parents. That’s just not true. But you insist you know what other parents’ intentions and desires are. It’s really quite odd. Are you psychic? All knowing? Kids are not all the same. I’m guessing you have an only child or you would know this already.

[Anonymous]

A swim meet isn’t safe yet it is safe enough for soccer games where players are all over each each other without masks (at least in VA)? There is no social distancing in a soccer game. I’d feel much safer having my kid swim in a meet. Clearly the soccer community is willing to take a lot more risk than the swimming.

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Anonymous wrote:my niece and nephew in RIchmond are having swim meets. they have electronic timers, 1 parent is allowed on deck to watch ea race, everyone waits outside under their own tents, they have to leisurely swim to the other end of the pool to get out closer to the doors, plexiglass in between the lanes at that end only.

That would mean the county and team would have to use some of the money to retrofit the pools which they aren't willing to do. They cannot even keep even temperatures with the heat in the winter.

It isn't much of a retrofit for touch pads, there are pools in the area that have them. They are put on for meets and then removed. They are expensive though. And I don't think that there is a lot of extra money floating around to make it happen. The clubs should be able to do it - particularly Machine, NCAP, etc that are more expensive. I do not see summer community pools pulling it off because so many of them are working at the margin.

The county/RMSC isn't going to spend that kind of money on meets. They don't even give out the t-shirts anymore. And, at best we have 2-3 coaches for 70 kids. Ideally they should do it as its more accurate but its not going to happen as they only do the minimum. They cannot even give us our deposits back or credit them like they said they would to this years swim. (if we want them back, we can do a request through the county but we haven't even gotten credited the money yet). County summer pool swim teams should be given them from the county but they aren't really given much of anything and some teams have a good parent rep who puts money/time into it and others don't.

Make your way back to the RMSC thread please. Or better yet, find a different club. You are really bitter about the t-shirt thing. It is weird.

+1. You seem irrationally unhappy with RMSC. We're trying to talk about swim meets here, not RMSC or tshirts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A swim meet isn’t safe yet it is safe enough for soccer games where players are all over each each other without masks (at least in VA)? There is no social distancing in a soccer game. I’d feel much safer having my kid swim in a meet. Clearly the soccer community is willing to take a lot more risk than the swimming.

Neither is particularly safe. How do you safely do a swim meet? You have 150 kids all sitting together waiting for their turn?