Did anyone witness this group in Georgetown late on Saturday night 8/7/20 ???

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Anonymous wrote:So what? An occasional inconvenience to accommodate social protest? Don’t value freedom of expression over a bit of list sleep?

Not enforcing laws on gatherings also led to a 20 person shooting and one death this weekend. There is a reason that we have reasonable, lawful ways to gather whether for entertainment, protest or anything else. If you don't want laws or don't want laws enforced, or want to pick and choose which ones are--perhaps you should start your own community? There are lots of people in Michigan who live in groups with like-minded individuals and print their own money etc. You would fit right in.

I'm willing to bet big money that those that cry freedom of expression from the bored, white teens and 20's suburbanites protesting in the middle of the night would feel much differently if the "mostly peaceful" protests were in their own neighborhoods in the middle of the night, on their lawns, trashing their cars, and waking them up scared in the middle of the night, and most would dial 911 demanding police protection. Feel free to prove me wrong.

How are we supposed to prove wrong an entirely hypothetical claim? 911 can bring the police, who bring state sponsored violence, so in my house we have rules about when they're called that are very limited; medical emergencies we can't handle ourselves (with extreme trepidation if it involves mental health issues because of the history of police violence against the mentally ill), fires, and crimes where we'd feel morally okay if the police showed up and killed someone. We've never had a fire or a violent home invasion, so we've only ever called 911 for medical issues.

You can choose not to believe that, but that's our approach.

You’re insane

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Somebody needs to take a break from social media. "State sponsored violence" LMAO.

Sounds like something you would hear on MSNBC or CNN.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

Next time you recount that event you should amend it slightly to say, “My first instinct was to help her, but I was stuck in traffic”, or something to avoid unconsciously shedding light on a much sadder commentary on society period - nobody helps one another anymore everybody just stands at a safe distance and watches people struggle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

What is sad is that you have been brainwashed by cherry picked videos to create a narrative that sells, but is in no way accurate. Do you actually think that social media and CNN shows videos of law enforcement that are representative of what police officers do day in and day out? Do you even know any police officers? The ignorance here is astounding.

I'm basing this on local news. Yes, people call the police for someone have a mental crisis and the police use tasers or just shoot them dead. It has happened enough times ***in this area*** that I think twice before calling the police.

I can see your point. If you are prone to pointing guns at police officers, your life expectancy is going to be very short.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

What is sad is that you have been brainwashed by cherry picked videos to create a narrative that sells, but is in no way accurate. Do you actually think that social media and CNN shows videos of law enforcement that are representative of what police officers do day in and day out? Do you even know any police officers? The ignorance here is astounding.

I'm basing this on local news. Yes, people call the police for someone have a mental crisis and the police use tasers or just shoot them dead. It has happened enough times ***in this area*** that I think twice before calling the police.

Also noticeably absent is any police response that how they handled it was wrong, they made a mistake, deeply regret what happened, etc. This is exactly why all police are being lumped together. Instead of saying, "We disavow the brutality displayed in that video," they say, "You don't know what happened. You weren't there. It was probably justified." They say, if you criticize one of us, you criticize all of us." They stand together against the public in solidarity with an abusive, murderous police officer instead of saying, "This is not how most of us behave."

So you can't have it both ways. You can't have police stand in solidarity with abusive officers and at the same time want to be seen as mostly decent and good.

Question: Why do police officers and their supporters make this about choosing either BLM or blue lives matter? Don't black lives matter to police? Then why can't they say so? And why is saying so offensive to the police?

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

Next time you recount that event you should amend it slightly to say, “My first instinct was to help her, but I was stuck in traffic”, or something to avoid unconsciously shedding light on a much sadder commentary on society period - nobody helps one another anymore everybody just stands at a safe distance and watches people struggle.

Why would I say that when it's not what happened? I pulled over, and made multiple u-turns to figure out if she needed help. I ultimately decided calling the police would be more harm to her than walking across a busy street over and over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

What is sad is that you have been brainwashed by cherry picked videos to create a narrative that sells, but is in no way accurate. Do you actually think that social media and CNN shows videos of law enforcement that are representative of what police officers do day in and day out? Do you even know any police officers? The ignorance here is astounding.

I'm basing this on local news. Yes, people call the police for someone have a mental crisis and the police use tasers or just shoot them dead. It has happened enough times ***in this area*** that I think twice before calling the police.

Also noticeably absent is any police response that how they handled it was wrong, they made a mistake, deeply regret what happened, etc. This is exactly why all police are being lumped together. Instead of saying, "We disavow the brutality displayed in that video," they say, "You don't know what happened. You weren't there. It was probably justified." They say, if you criticize one of us, you criticize all of us." They stand together against the public in solidarity with an abusive, murderous police officer instead of saying, "This is not how most of us behave."

So you can't have it both ways. You can't have police stand in solidarity with abusive officers and at the same time want to be seen as mostly decent and good.

Question: Why do police officers and their supporters make this about choosing either BLM or blue lives matter? Don't black lives matter to police? Then why can't they say so? And why is saying so offensive to the police?

There are numbers frequently posted to DCUM for mental health response, or you call 311. Not calling anyone is a heartless

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Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

What is sad is that you have been brainwashed by cherry picked videos to create a narrative that sells, but is in no way accurate. Do you actually think that social media and CNN shows videos of law enforcement that are representative of what police officers do day in and day out? Do you even know any police officers? The ignorance here is astounding.

I'm basing this on local news. Yes, people call the police for someone have a mental crisis and the police use tasers or just shoot them dead. It has happened enough times ***in this area*** that I think twice before calling the police.

Also noticeably absent is any police response that how they handled it was wrong, they made a mistake, deeply regret what happened, etc. This is exactly why all police are being lumped together. Instead of saying, "We disavow the brutality displayed in that video," they say, "You don't know what happened. You weren't there. It was probably justified." They say, if you criticize one of us, you criticize all of us." They stand together against the public in solidarity with an abusive, murderous police officer instead of saying, "This is not how most of us behave."

So you can't have it both ways. You can't have police stand in solidarity with abusive officers and at the same time want to be seen as mostly decent and good.

Question: Why do police officers and their supporters make this about choosing either BLM or blue lives matter? Don't black lives matter to police? Then why can't they say so? And why is saying so offensive to the police?

Part of the problem is that good officers who attempt to report bad officers are subject to harrasment and worse. The whole system needs an overhaul.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

What is sad is that you have been brainwashed by cherry picked videos to create a narrative that sells, but is in no way accurate. Do you actually think that social media and CNN shows videos of law enforcement that are representative of what police officers do day in and day out? Do you even know any police officers? The ignorance here is astounding.

I'm basing this on local news. Yes, people call the police for someone have a mental crisis and the police use tasers or just shoot them dead. It has happened enough times ***in this area*** that I think twice before calling the police.

Also noticeably absent is any police response that how they handled it was wrong, they made a mistake, deeply regret what happened, etc. This is exactly why all police are being lumped together. Instead of saying, "We disavow the brutality displayed in that video," they say, "You don't know what happened. You weren't there. It was probably justified." They say, if you criticize one of us, you criticize all of us." They stand together against the public in solidarity with an abusive, murderous police officer instead of saying, "This is not how most of us behave."

So you can't have it both ways. You can't have police stand in solidarity with abusive officers and at the same time want to be seen as mostly decent and good.

Question: Why do police officers and their supporters make this about choosing either BLM or blue lives matter? Don't black lives matter to police? Then why can't they say so? And why is saying so offensive to the police?

You are talking about a bunch of different things. Yes, it has always been a problem that the expectation is that police officers are not to make any mistakes. So therefore cops will rarely admit that they screwed something up, even when it was a mistake that most people would have made. They will leave the info out of the report so there are no repercussions. This is kind of changing due to bodycams, but it is a cultural issue in LE.

I don't know a single cop who thought that the Floyd incident was justified. The media usually leaves out details of these investigations so that the incident looks like it is not justified, but the vast majority of these incidents are justified. Also, most people know nothing about firearms, tactics, use of force, etc. So they might have an opinion, but in most cases, it is an uninformed opinion. Some incidents are neither justified nor unjustified.

As far as the BLM and Blue Lives Matter thing goes...it's just silliness. The only people concerned about that rhetoric are losers who spend too much time reading about politics. That whole thing about BLM complaining about blue lives matter or vice versa is for losers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a shame you have to really think hard about police brutality and murder before calling the police. we saw a woman who seemed a bit confused, and kept crossing a busy street on a hill around a curve, so it was hard for oncoming cars to see her. At first I thought she might have been looking for something she had dropped crossing the street, but it became clear she was having some sort of cognitive or psychological problem. My first instinct was to call the police, but I thought better of it, since they can cause more harm than good. That is such a sad commentary on the police in our society today.

Next time you recount that event you should amend it slightly to say, “My first instinct was to help her, but I was stuck in traffic”, or something to avoid unconsciously shedding light on a much sadder commentary on society period - nobody helps one another anymore everybody just stands at a safe distance and watches people struggle.

Why would I say that when it's not what happened? I pulled over, and made multiple u-turns to figure out if she needed help. I ultimately decided calling the police would be more harm to her than walking across a busy street over and over.

there is a number you can call for wellness checks. Calling 311 (they will not directly dispatch police) or there is a DC wellness check number. Why would this be a concern to you? If it were your child, sister, friend would you refrain from getting them assistance for some sort of cognitive or psychological problem causing them to play in traffic??

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Here you go. This is from a different thread, "where can I call if someone is ranting in public?" Unfortunately the 311 app does not have mental health well ness checks in its directory, though it does have graffiti removal and garbage issues. You can still call 311 and they can decide where to direct your concern, but it shows how little we care about people have psychic breaks that it is not also a service you can easily reach on the app. Anyhow, put this number in your phone and try it and/or 311 next time:


it sounds like this is a health service you could call PP: DC Mobile Crisis Services (202-673-9300). The mentally ill person most likely is too far gone to call it for themselves. If you are hesitant, a good reminder is to remind yourself that they are someone's child.

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Will the noise-making and road-blocking protesters come to city or burb neighborhoods? There are a lots of Yard signs supporting BLM in our neighborhood. However, recently, I saw new signs posted on the poles at intersections saying “You live in a segregation area or neighborhood”. I wonder if our neighborhood will be targeted for protesting.
What is the right reaction if they come to your street or front door?
Should I call 911? There are a lots of seniors live alone in their houses. Should they be warned?

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Where?

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Anonymous wrote:Where?

MoCo near DC

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MoCo near DC

I've seen those signs and figured they were more meant to be educational than anything else. MoCo has had some BLM protests but they've been very quiet/calm. I'll confess that I'm not afraid of these protests generally, but I'm definitely not specifically worried about MoCo protests.

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Anonymous wrote:I n light of the protests, looting and violence that has occurred over the last three months, during a Fox News interview, Greater New York Black Lives Matter president Hawk Newsome was asked what his hoped to achieve through violence.

"Wow, it’s interesting that you would pose that question like that, because this country is built upon violence," he said. "What was the American Revolution, what’s our diplomacy across the globe? We go in and we blow up countries and we replace their leaders with leaders who we like. So for any American to accuse us of being violent is extremely hypocritical."

"I said if this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it. All right? And I could be speaking … figuratively. I could be speaking literally. It’s a matter of interpretation."

I guess this is normal and will go on forEver. I wonder what will replace the current system.

It's pretty amazing that we haven't gotten to this point a lot sooner. If a police officer ever murdered my son, husband, brother, father there's be hell to pay.

Even if it was suicide by cop?