Please don't talk to me about equity in schools ever again

[Anonymous]

Hire a college student or get an au pair/nanny. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

My ES just sent a survey today to ask which students would like to be grouped together in a classroom to facilitate the families hiring a tutor for their kids. Do you really think this is okay? How may lower income people do you think will respond? Next the school will probably suggest which of the teachers are available to be hired for tutors since they have too much time in their hands.

Can we just throw out the hypocrisy and admit equity is of no concern?

[Anonymous]

I agree with Op also.
I am a single mom with a middle school kid. DL is working for my dd and I. Dd is independent and a smart kid. I am supplementing her education paying $40 per hour twice a week at the sylvan learning center. Money is tight, but I got a second job on the weekend to pay tuition. My dd education is very important to me and I work hard to provide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and no one cares.

True. The resources of the world are not equally distributed. Also, there are too many humans so maybe nature is culling the herd a bit. Perhaps people should also think before having children. Society is not going to raise your kid. It is now up to you. The pandemic will see birth rates plummet and maybe that is not such a bad thing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with Op also.
I am a single mom with a middle school kid. DL is working for my dd and I. Dd is independent and a smart kid. I am supplementing her education paying $40 per hour twice a week at the sylvan learning center. Money is tight, but I got a second job on the weekend to pay tuition. My dd education is very important to me and I work hard to provide.

Saying you are a single mom means nothing as some single moms are doing very well financially and making over $80K+ and getting child support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My ES just sent a survey today to ask which students would like to be grouped together in a classroom to facilitate the families hiring a tutor for their kids. Do you really think this is okay? How may lower income people do you think will respond? Next the school will probably suggest which of the teachers are available to be hired for tutors since they have too much time in their hands.

Can we just throw out the hypocrisy and admit equity is of no concern?

Sounds like you have a crappy school who is trying to get out of teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of money if not to live a better life with more? Money is a false construct to control consumption, I have more money so I get better stuff, more stuff and access to stuff poor people don't and it is that simple. No one really wants equity, people just don't want to be preordained losers any longer. Problem is more than 50% of this country are preordained losers but most don't realize it. You will notice 50% is more than any one demographic.

No one wants global equity either where the child labor in Vietnam makes as much as labor in America because then Polo shirts would cost 400$. What people want is White privilege to morph into American privilege so others can enjoy the American wealth ride before it fades under globalism. But White privilege isn't expandable because it has hoarded wealth for so long in so few hands. To expand it national it would require lower consumption across the spectrum and while it might be sustainable for a generation or two with credit, it would not only crush the environment but some other country would have to be exploited. Everyone in the world cant have a house and a bunch of cars with checks for life.

Yawn. Very few people are buying $400 shirts and they aren't all white who do. Rich and privilege are two different things. You sound racist.

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Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

DCUM's gonna DCUM. 1/3 of the kids in the PP's kid's class went AWOL last spring during "distance learning," and the PP's response is not "this is terrible, what can MCPS do so this doesn't happen again?" but rather "their parents are bad parents!"

Yes. You must no be a parent if you don’t know/understand the responsibilities of being a parent. One responsibility is to make sure your DC attends school/class whether it’s in-person or DL.

I am a parent of 3, and my DCs went AWOL the last half of the spring. We are a high income well educated family. DC went AWOL because DL sucks and wasn’t worth it. I also have another DC who is deaf and doesn’t do well on DL platforms like zoom. That DC also went AWOL because it was unhelpful.

Stop acting like DL is an acceptable substitute for in person learning or that parents who opt out don’t care.

If its done well, it can be equal or better. It depends on the school and teacher. Send you kids to private. You opting out of school is lazy parenting. Help and teach your kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

Some of the kids didn't have computers as those who didn't need them took them anyway. Several kids in our class didn't get them till May.

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Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

I really hope you're referring to the priorities of keeping a roof over their family's head, food on the table, contributing to retirement/college funds, paying for life insurance, earning credits for social security, etc. That is what you meant, right?

You do realize the social security credits can be easily done so bad excuse. I had mine all in by my late 20's as I worked summers and other times as a teen and in college.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose [b]parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education[/b]. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.[/quote]



The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU![/quote]

Shes saying distance learning does not relay the information to kids well. You need an in person / live person to facilitate. Whether it be scheduling, supplies, staying on task or helping explain where the gaps were in DL. Private in person, hiring teachers helps alot. Sahm/wfh parents can help partially and for those kids who watch themselves or stay with much older relatives who can't help them- they dont get that extra help to complete the bubble of dl. My 2nd grade dc was in the latter this spring and we failed as a family. Moving him to private in the fall. It's a difficult stretch but mcps dropped the ball with mandating 5 months of dl.

Sorry teacher- I know you all think it's a great alternative to in person but for most kids, its no where close. Especially k-3 like my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:This idea that in person school is dramatically better is baffling. Have any of you actually set foot in classrooms when school is in session? Ever noticed those kids who aren’t paying any attention, roaming the hallways, fighting, or sleeping? These are the same kids that are being left behind now. While the motivated kids are the same ones who will succeed now. DL is not the difference maker here.

Have you ever watched even a motivated early elementary school kid try to learn by DL? If so, you wouldn’t be so sanguine about DL.

This is one of the most privileged statements I've read in awhile. I wish you could see my non hallway roaming motivated 97% IQ wisc elementary student struggle and cry trying to complete DL this spring. You should choose the DL option until your child graduates and not waste in person resources for other kids when/ if it ever happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 4th grader did fine in DL. Yes, there was more review than I liked, but the kids worked hard. That combined with all the supplemental courses she takes definitely kept her busy. She loves writing even more than before!

I am more concerned about the number of kids who went AWOL. I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents having other priorities, not able to help or not respecting education.

I'd say at least 1/3 of her class never attended zoom. That speaks to parents dealing with a spouse who lost their job, trying to pay bills, trying to keep a roof over their children's heads. Trying to provide food for their family, possibly not speaking English and unsble yo help, not having iPads or computers, no wifi access, two essential workers in the household with no one to watch kids or grandparent watching kids, family members sick/ in hospital,
dealing with their own anxiety or stresses, children with special needs with difficulty logging on and learning...



Fixed it for you

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU!

NP. I don’t understand why you took such umbrage to that post. I’m educated, so I can somewhat teach my kids, but I’m not a trained teacher or familiar with pedagogy, so I probably won’t be as effective as a real teacher would be. PP’s comment makes sense to me.

Is it the SAH piece? It seems to reason that families with a SAHP, or parents with very flexible jobs, will have an easier time managing their children’s access to MCPS classes and/or providing their own learning opportunities.

You may not like the reality pointed out in the PP, but it seems logical and hardly something to get really upset about.

If you know these words and understand their meanings, I'm pretty sure you can figure out how to keep your child's brain from turning to mush.

That’s my point. That’s what the PP I first responded to said and I didn’t understand why some other poster took such offense.

So how does a family with two parents who work essential jobs outside the home accomplish this? Both jobs are required to pay the bills, both jobs hours basically 8am-5/6pm. Children are 1st and 2nd grade. New to area with no family to help.

We're in your position and we're splurging for private. With someone to dropoff/pickup. If you can't get in private , choice b is a Childcare center to supplement dl (kah/bar t/primrose/coding ninjas) . Choice c was to have a younger family member or my retired teacher aunt come stay with us for a month or 2 to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with Op also.
I am a single mom with a middle school kid. DL is working for my dd and I. Dd is independent and a smart kid. I am supplementing her education paying $40 per hour twice a week at the sylvan learning center. Money is tight, but I got a second job on the weekend to pay tuition. My dd education is very important to me and I work hard to provide.

Great job mom! Virtual hugs. Your daughter is lucky to have you.