Please don't talk to me about equity in schools ever again

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU!

What I mean by that is that educational regression is guaranteed for children who will be forced to distance learn. Do you not think so?

Miami-Dade county superintendent and teachers union are on record for saying that millions of kids are facing educational regression due to DL. Do you think they are wrong?

I do. I know for a fact that my kid learned more during DL than he did during the school year. DL has been a blessing for our family.

Got it. You think educational regression for millions of kids is not real because your kid learned more in DL. Now we can give that opinion all the value that it deserves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This idea that in person school is dramatically better is baffling. Have any of you actually set foot in classrooms when school is in session? Ever noticed those kids who aren’t paying any attention, roaming the hallways, fighting, or sleeping? These are the same kids that are being left behind now. While the motivated kids are the same ones who will succeed now. DL is not the difference maker here.

Have you ever watched even a motivated early elementary school kid try to learn by DL? If so, you wouldn’t be so sanguine about DL.

[Anonymous]

I'm so sick of equity. I hate MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

I suspect it was never a concern of yours either until it was a convenient argument for you. If you really care about equity in schools (and life in general) there is a lot more you can be doing than starting a useless, self-serving thread on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of equity. I hate MCPS.

I’m sick of MCPS’s focus on equity, but this decision at least arguably cuts against equity - at least as they define it.

Now, when MCPS says DL has to be limited in time because not all kids can access computers for extended periods, or places other limitations on what teachers can do because not all will have teachers willing to go above and beyond, then I will be pissed at the equity focus.

[Anonymous]

Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.


Except that in surveys done, more parents who live in poorer areas of DC and VA responded that they wanted distance learning only.


Interesting, this is a MD thread

I'm sure your poor are very unique and different from others in VA and DC.

[Anonymous]

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Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

Except that in surveys done, more parents who live in poorer areas of DC and VA responded that they wanted distance learning only.

Same for PG.
It’s probably the same for MCPS, but the info won’t be released.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of equity. I hate MCPS.

I’m sick of MCPS’s focus on equity, but this decision at least arguably cuts against equity - at least as they define it.

Now, when MCPS says DL has to be limited in time because not all kids can access computers for extended periods, or places other limitations on what teachers can do because not all will have teachers willing to go above and beyond, then I will be pissed at the equity focus.

I thought the progressive MC residents cherish equity but their true color is showing. As for NCPS, everything we heard during past years is centered around equity. What happened to oppotunity gap and achievement gap?

[Anonymous]

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Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

Rich people don’t need to make that choice

Are you just now discovering that the rich have it easier in life? The USA has the most inequalities of the rich nations. This is because all throughout its history, its citizens have consistently voted for economic dynamism over safety nets.

Right now you're seeing a consequence of that.

Yup. The USA is the capitalist capital of the world. Making money trumps everything else, including health.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so sick of equity. I hate MCPS.

This is the perfect time to move. It’s obvious which states don’t care about equity. Pick one and move before the end of August.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU!

NP. I don’t understand why you took such umbrage to that post. I’m educated, so I can somewhat teach my kids, but I’m not a trained teacher or familiar with pedagogy, so I probably won’t be as effective as a real teacher would be. PP’s comment makes sense to me.

Is it the SAH piece? It seems to reason that families with a SAHP, or parents with very flexible jobs, will have an easier time managing their children’s access to MCPS classes and/or providing their own learning opportunities.

You may not like the reality pointed out in the PP, but it seems logical and hardly something to get really upset about.

"Educated" parents are hopefully resourceful, too. My kids learned more at home for many reasons, most of all because I continued supplementing as I have from the start. Some call it after-schooling. I call it filling the gaps. You get what you pay for and I can't swing private, but I am educated as well as resourceful.

[Anonymous]

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Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

That's a foolish statement, PP. How many lives saved, compared to how many people's education affected (and affected how much)? For example, would you be willing to close all schools in the US for a year, if doing so saved one life? How about saving two lives by closing all high schools in the US for half a year? Etc. etc. etc.

It really depends on who’s life it is? If that life is your DC or one of your love one, the answer would be different isn’t it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clearly it is of no concern to anyone. The kids whose parents can afford private school tuition or to hire a MCPS teacher on LOA for their POD can get education this year. The kids whose parents are educated and SAH/can work from home will get somewhat of an education. The rest will get nothing and noone cares.

The hell do you mean by that?! Somewhat?! FU!

NP. I don’t understand why you took such umbrage to that post. I’m educated, so I can somewhat teach my kids, but I’m not a trained teacher or familiar with pedagogy, so I probably won’t be as effective as a real teacher would be. PP’s comment makes sense to me.

Is it the SAH piece? It seems to reason that families with a SAHP, or parents with very flexible jobs, will have an easier time managing their children’s access to MCPS classes and/or providing their own learning opportunities.

You may not like the reality pointed out in the PP, but it seems logical and hardly something to get really upset about.

If you know these words and understand their meanings, I'm pretty sure you can figure out how to keep your child's brain from turning to mush.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Saving lives > education.

Always and for ever.

Rich people don’t need to make that choice

This. Wealthy friends and colleagues forming pods with tutors at $500+ a week. No way I can afford that. Sure, I’ll supplement but it will get my kids nothing like what these families can give.

Basically MCPS is creating a private school-public school hybrid as most parents who can are going to bring tutors into the equation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’ll get over it.

I will, for sure. Many of the kids left behind won't though.

They will. Generations of kids managed on far, far, far, less education. Now all of sudden a few semesters of IN-SCHOOL math and English are critical? Are we actually sending the kids down into the mines with no learning whatsoever, instead of just having them sit comfortably at home with expensive technology and a certified teacher at the other end of the Zoom?

Give me a break. You're ridiculous.

You sound more than a little bit privileged.

There will be thousands of kids who won’t have parents available to bring them snacks during the day and monitor their online progress. They will disengage and continue to fall further behind their peers, not to mention the kids who are fortunate enough to attend private schools or schools in other countries. Some of them will never catch up academically as a result. We all know this, and implying it’s the equivalent of a hard snow that kept the kids from attending their one-room schoolhouse in Nebraska for a few weeks in 1870 won’t change the harsh reality.