Which summer swim clubs are opening (nova)

[Anonymous]

Was the high school pool party outside or inside? I haven’t seen that in the articles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was the high school pool party outside or inside? I haven’t seen that in the articles.

exactly- I have to believe it was inside/outside. Otherwise a cluster of cases linked to outdoor transmission would be huge news and of interest to epidemiologists, etc.

[Anonymous]

In Maryland state parks, the playgrounds are now open. Parents are supposed to encourage social distancing with their children on the playground.

[Anonymous]

no way that swim party was totally outdoors. its cold in northern arkansas in early may.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It makes me so sad that kids are going to lose out the most in all this. No library visits, no playgrounds, no pools, no camps, probably no school in fall. But adults will be able to get their haircuts, workouts, pedicures, and get drunk outside and be too close to each other. It has been 11 weeks at home. We have done everything we can to try to make the most of it and are just running out of options. And soon there will be no online school for at least a bit of structure. Areas like ours are really not getting better and we get to watch kids in less dense regions have an almost normal summer and return to school in the fall. It’s incredibly frustrating. I can feel the depression setting in. Our national and local leaders have failed our children.

ITTTTTTTTTTA. It's BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.

How can you not get this?

At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.

At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.

It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.

I can see your point for a playground, but not an outdoor pool. Plenty of states are letting the private pools open.

Pools have changing areas, bathrooms, railings, chairs, fountains, ledges, etc. swimming isn’t the issue. Stopping swimming at a pool is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.

How can you not get this?

At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.

At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.

It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.

Except restaurants are inside and playgrounds are outside and the CDC has now said that covid-19 does not actually spread easily on surfaces.

+1. Outdoor is safer and less disease-spreading than indoor.

And kids need to move. Adults don't need to stuff their faces indoors at a restaurant. There is documented spread of COVID in restaurants. There is no evidence of it spreading AT ALL outdoors.

Of course is spreads outdoors. Kids are germs and unhygienic. You think an infected kid that sneezes, talks or coughs on another won’t likely infect that other person? Indoors is Not preferred over outdoors but you’re not safe bc you’re outdoors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And if people can eat in restaurants, we should be able to go to the playground! Ridiculous.

How can you not get this?

At restaurants, they can easily remove tables or leave tables empty. Patrons are pretty immobile once they are seated. Employees can wipe all surfaces in between patrons. You’re in a small group (table) at a restaurant, usually with people from the same household.

At a playground, people are running around, touching the same surfaces. Those same people (kids) are the worst at not touching their eyes, nose and mouth, not keeping masks on or having ill fitting masks. Kids fail to correctly cover sneezes. Kids can’t appropriately keep 6’ apart from others. There is usually no water and soap to wash for 20 seconds.

It is 100% appropriate to open a restaurant before a park.

I can see your point for a playground, but not an outdoor pool. Plenty of states are letting the private pools open.

Pools have changing areas, bathrooms, railings, chairs, fountains, ledges, etc. swimming isn’t the issue. Stopping swimming at a pool is.

I'm sure it has been mentioned before, but changing areas would not be used. At our private club members would arrive and leave in their swimsuits. Bathrooms used one person at a time. Wash your hands, use hand sanitizer. The only railings I can think of are the ladders in/out of the pool. Water fountains closed and members bring their own water. Members can bring their own chairs. If we kept chairs on deck they would be reserved and cleaned after use. Picture 5 families spread out around the pool deck using assigned spaces in the pool. Probably less risky than a restaurant or supermarket.

[Anonymous]

Anywhere there are kids, esp younger ones, it is going to be more risky.

5 groups, each staying together and apart from others, isn’t a problem. How do you see 3 year olds staying put while mom packs up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anywhere there are kids, esp younger ones, it is going to be more risky.

5 groups, each staying together and apart from others, isn’t a problem. How do you see 3 year olds staying put while mom packs up?

Some seem like they are determined to keep pools closed and people in homes. Personal items will be kept to a minimum. There shouldn’t be much to pack up. The 3 year old should be able to stay near the parent and the capacity will be reduced, so there won’t be many people to interact with. That three year old’s mom very well may have reserved the baby pool for the family. Mitigation occurs in layers. If someone is going to be concerned with minutiae such as a three year old getting ready to leave, the just stay home. Nothing will ever be perfect.

[Anonymous]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/us/beach-lake-pool-coronavirus-safety-tips-wellness-trnd/index.html


Infectious disease experts are "guardedly optimistic" that people can enjoy the outdoors this summer without infection if they do it right, said Dr. Thomas Feteke, chair of the Department of Medicine at Temple University's Lewis Katz School of Medicine and infectious disease specialist.

[Anonymous]

What states or areas actually have pools open now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anywhere there are kids, esp younger ones, it is going to be more risky.

5 groups, each staying together and apart from others, isn’t a problem. How do you see 3 year olds staying put while mom packs up?

Some seem like they are determined to keep pools closed and people in homes. Personal items will be kept to a minimum. There shouldn’t be much to pack up. The 3 year old should be able to stay near the parent and the capacity will be reduced, so there won’t be many people to interact with. That three year old’s mom very well may have reserved the baby pool for the family. Mitigation occurs in layers. If someone is going to be concerned with minutiae such as a three year old getting ready to leave, the just stay home. Nothing will ever be perfect.

Yeah, this is just getting annoying. I am generally pro stay at home until community transmission is way down in one's area, and have been accused of being "doom and gloom" for pointing out details relating to indoor gatherings. But experts agree that an outdoor pool with social distancing measures is a relatively safe activity. I have a 3 year old and it really is not hard to keep him near me when I am gathering things together. If I really had to I could bring a stroller to the pool and strap him in to it while putting towels, etc. away.

I think some people just want to see kids hidden away until there is a vaccine, because they see little kids as germ spreaders who will make things less safe for them personally. They couldn't care less about the well being of those young children or the reality of parenting young kids in a pandemic. They are thinking solely of their own situation and how they want certain groups to put their lives on hold just so they can feel safe in the world. It's not fair to ask this of those who are more vulnerable and it's not fair to ask of those who are less vulnerable. Every single one of us is going to have to make informed decisions about what risks we will or will not take. Ideally these decisions will be based on data and the recommendation of experts. It's the only way forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What states or areas actually have pools open now?

I am a member of a Facebook group. Off the top of my head I can say Georgia, TN, Oklahoma, NC, Florida. Maybe they aren’t completely open as normal but they are open or opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What states or areas actually have pools open now?

Parts of VA in Phase 1 are open for lap swim.