FCPS - Why can't teachers do one hour Zoom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

Zoom generates an attendee list. Most conferencing platforms also include timestamps for when attendees join and exit a meeting. Depending on how its configured they should be able to set it up to generate and archive those reports if there are accusations of improper conduct.

I don't really see an issue with using an outside email. It's not difficult to get people to start using such systems now, and then role out an "official" long term solution later on that uses in school email systems and report generation. Presumably that is what other school systems and privates have done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

It is.
As noted earlier, the security issues when working with children is different than adults.
Regarding the use of Google. FCPS has a “walled garden” where only staff and students can see each other’s work created with a Google app. A staff member or student cannot share their work with anyone, including a parent, who is outside of FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

Zoom generates an attendee list. Most conferencing platforms also include timestamps for when attendees join and exit a meeting. Depending on how its configured they should be able to set it up to generate and archive those reports if there are accusations of improper conduct.

I don't really see an issue with using an outside email. It's not difficult to get people to start using such systems now, and then role out an "official" long term solution later on that uses in school email systems and report generation. Presumably that is what other school systems and privates have done.

FCPS is the 10th largest school system in the US. If school systems that are about the same size are doing this roll out with using an outside email and then switching over later, tell us which ones they are. I have a hard time imagining huge organizations are doing that. And please don’t cite “other school systems and privates” as an example to look to. My guess is that those small districts and stand alone private schools are running loose and free with privacy issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

Zoom generates an attendee list. Most conferencing platforms also include timestamps for when attendees join and exit a meeting. Depending on how its configured they should be able to set it up to generate and archive those reports if there are accusations of improper conduct.

I don't really see an issue with using an outside email. It's not difficult to get people to start using such systems now, and then role out an "official" long term solution later on that uses in school email systems and report generation. Presumably that is what other school systems and privates have done.

FCPS is the 10th largest school system in the US. If school systems that are about the same size are doing this roll out with using an outside email and then switching over later, tell us which ones they are. I have a hard time imagining huge organizations are doing that. And please don’t cite “other school systems and privates” as an example to look to. My guess is that those small districts and stand alone private schools are running loose and free with privacy issues.

Then so be it. We're in a crisis, we worry about privacy, equity and various lawsuits later.

Either we care about helping the most number of people as soon as possible, or we wait for perfection. I'd prefer the former rather than the later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

Zoom generates an attendee list. Most conferencing platforms also include timestamps for when attendees join and exit a meeting. Depending on how its configured they should be able to set it up to generate and archive those reports if there are accusations of improper conduct.

I don't really see an issue with using an outside email. It's not difficult to get people to start using such systems now, and then role out an "official" long term solution later on that uses in school email systems and report generation. Presumably that is what other school systems and privates have done.

FCPS is the 10th largest school system in the US. If school systems that are about the same size are doing this roll out with using an outside email and then switching over later, tell us which ones they are. I have a hard time imagining huge organizations are doing that. And please don’t cite “other school systems and privates” as an example to look to. My guess is that those small districts and stand alone private schools are running loose and free with privacy issues.

Then so be it. We're in a crisis, we worry about privacy, equity and various lawsuits later.

Either we care about helping the most number of people as soon as possible, or we wait for perfection. I'd prefer the former rather than the later.

DP. Practice meditation. It will be beneficial for you, much more than arguing your superior knowledge anonymously over the internet.

FCPS is moving towards remote learning. A little slower than other districts but it will happen. You can wait patiently or impatiently but you can't make it happen faster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP hit the nail on the head: it is about privacy and security. ZOOM is not approved and will not be approved by FCPS because it does not protect students’ privacy. This is directly from the mouth of Maribeth Luftglass, the assistant superintendent for IT at FCPS. Principals asked specifically about using it, and this is the reason why.

Teachers are being trained to use Blackboard Collaborate which they can then use with their students. It’s not as fabulous as ZOOM, but it’s secure.

When friends ask why FCPS isn’t using ZOOM, please explain that it’s about security. It’s not about equity, because there is a tool for videoconferencing.

-a principal

Dear Principal,

I run the IT department for a federal agency. We use Zoom. It's plenty secure for PII.

So when my friends ask, I tell them it's NOT about security, because it isn't.

If you believe it is, pls link to a reputable trade study that says why it is. Heck, even something from IEEE, slashdot or Zimmerman's blog would do.

Signed - a guy that manages secure IT systems.

Um...

For a techie you know very little about security for children.

That is what the principal is talking about.

Zoom gives adult teachers unmonitored access from their homes to the students homes, and in the case of teens and high school kids, it will often be the kids bedrooms.

99.99% of the teachers and students will not be of a concern.

The concern, especially in a district as large as fcps, is that .01% of teachers as well as students who lack judgment as to what is appropriate (a teacher in anothe thread expressed concerns about her image being screen shot, manipulated and posted online which is a genuine concern. )

So when the principal is talking about "security" he is not talking about the same thing as you, who is working with equals (all adults) in a professional setting.

Dp here.

Isn't that true of any video conferencing application?

I'm unaware of any in home geofencing application for regular video conferencing applications.

My understanding is that with the school based software the schools have a paper trail, where for an outside platform like zoom there is no way for the schools to monitor when and how they are interacting

Also, the kids use a school specific email that runs through the school platform. They cannot use that email for outside programs, so it would be their personal email. It might be the same for the teachers as well.

Zoom generates an attendee list. Most conferencing platforms also include timestamps for when attendees join and exit a meeting. Depending on how its configured they should be able to set it up to generate and archive those reports if there are accusations of improper conduct.

I don't really see an issue with using an outside email. It's not difficult to get people to start using such systems now, and then role out an "official" long term solution later on that uses in school email systems and report generation. Presumably that is what other school systems and privates have done.

FCPS is the 10th largest school system in the US. If school systems that are about the same size are doing this roll out with using an outside email and then switching over later, tell us which ones they are. I have a hard time imagining huge organizations are doing that. And please don’t cite “other school systems and privates” as an example to look to. My guess is that those small districts and stand alone private schools are running loose and free with privacy issues.

Then so be it. We're in a crisis, we worry about privacy, equity and various lawsuits later.

Either we care about helping the most number of people as soon as possible, or we wait for perfection. I'd prefer the former rather than the later.

You are not well informed on this topic.

Schools take internet privacy and safety very seriously when it comes to students.

There are many viable options for online learning and work packegs that do not require internet teleconferencing on an outside server.

This is not a viable, safe, manageable or private option for schools.

[Anonymous]

Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

I disagree.

It's unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

I disagree.

It's unacceptable.

You are wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

I disagree.

It's unacceptable.

You don't have to accept it. You could pull your kids out and homeschool them.

But u don't know why you think that would be better for them or easier for you...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

Fear of lawsuits should NEVER get in the away of education.

If you look at the federal response, the federal government is going to get sued and brought into arbitration by the public and public employhee unions for discarding a large number of regulations and union agreements, however they felt the need to continue to serve the public with great alacrity, and provide remedies for a number of issues was worth the risk of being sued at a later date. For whatever reason FCPS is either overly risk adverse or just incompetent.

There are a number of commercial solutions that address the very issues you raise. These could be brought online in no more than a few days as demonstrated by other local districts. Version trackers are notoriously well known in online document editing systems, they aren't unique to the public school sphere. Data logs exist in a wide variety of chat, teleconferencing, and collaborative platforms that are available commercially.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

I disagree.

It's unacceptable.

You are wrong.

I disagree. I demand that local governments work with the same speed as the federal response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Zoom is not a practical solution for online learning for a public school system.

And with regards to the time poster who brought up time stamps, that is irrelevant.

The google classroom and other school software monitors everything that is typed into the system.

For example, one of my kids classmates typed something inappropriate into a group document, then deleted it after the other kids read it. The teacher was able to see what he typed and he got reprimanded.

The security required for school usage is unique and more comprehensive.

This is not such a crisis for the kids that waiting a week or two to set up proper online learning is going to harm their education or create a hardship.

There is not such a crisis that they need to rush past the better practice just to get an easy and fast solution that does not work for their needs.

Fear of lawsuits should NEVER get in the away of education.

If you look at the federal response, the federal government is going to get sued and brought into arbitration by the public and public employhee unions for discarding a large number of regulations and union agreements, however they felt the need to continue to serve the public with great alacrity, and provide remedies for a number of issues was worth the risk of being sued at a later date. For whatever reason FCPS is either overly risk adverse or just incompetent.

There are a number of commercial solutions that address the very issues you raise. These could be brought online in no more than a few days as demonstrated by other local districts. Version trackers are notoriously well known in online document editing systems, they aren't unique to the public school sphere. Data logs exist in a wide variety of chat, teleconferencing, and collaborative platforms that are available commercially.

This is not about "fear of lawsuits"

This ia about maintaining proper protections for students.