FCPS - Why can't teachers do one hour Zoom?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:High schoolers hate Flipgrid and it’s not connection. It’s talking to yourself in a 1:30 clip.


For elementary kids. Some seem to be enjoying it. I assume high schoolers have phones and other ways to contact their friends.


... we are talking about using these platforms for school
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:High schoolers hate Flipgrid and it’s not connection. It’s talking to yourself in a 1:30 clip.


For elementary kids. Some seem to be enjoying it. I assume high schoolers have phones and other ways to contact their friends.


... we are talking about using these platforms for school


..... right now teachers are making flip grids so students can connect with each other. That’s a big part of school they’re missing right now. Seeing their friends.

Do you expect people to TEACH via flip grid? I am so confused.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:State guidance as of today is that we can do NO live video chat with them on any platform. Too many legal and safety and privacy issues apparently. So you can trust us with your kids in a classroom but not in a group video meet.


Do you happen to have a link to this guidance? I hadn’t heard this information before.


There is NO, absolutely NO, state guidance saying this FP. You are completely incorrect. If your school system dictates no live platform then that is fine but don't lie about what the state is saying.


If I am incorrect then my school is incorrect because that’s what we were told today by admin. I’m not lying, there’s just no consistent message apparently. For us, it’s not allowed.



Your school can make its own choices; however, the STATE has said nothing like that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 1st grader is doing a zoom meeting Friday with his FCPS class/teacher.


The teacher is not supposed to use zoom.


Absolutely not supposed to use Zoom in FCPS. Please share your school if this actually happened.
For those that are still wondering why (including some IT guy a few pages back), here is why:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-25/zoombombing-usc-classes-interrupted-racist-remarks?fbclid=IwAR0bVGSKIL2gD-VGCz0qaf8xtMFE6554gpX1hH7ssl0GeZfP6ZiypGw3SiM

“Zoom crashers” are getting into sessions and “bombing” them with pornography and racist remarks. The above link is from an article this week in the LA Times.


Oh that's terrible - is there no way to password protect a Zoom session like Go To Meeting?


Yes, Zoom meetings can easily be made password protected. It is an option that needs to be selected by the Meeting Moderator at the time of set-up or added later by an edit. It is easy to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:High schoolers hate Flipgrid and it’s not connection. It’s talking to yourself in a 1:30 clip.


For elementary kids. Some seem to be enjoying it. I assume high schoolers have phones and other ways to contact their friends.


... we are talking about using these platforms for school


..... right now teachers are making flip grids so students can connect with each other. That’s a big part of school they’re missing right now. Seeing their friends.

Do you expect people to TEACH via flip grid? I am so confused.



NO. That’s exactly my point. I said we can’t use any video platform with them at ALL and someone else suggested Flipgrid as if that would possibly work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:State guidance as of today is that we can do NO live video chat with them on any platform. Too many legal and safety and privacy issues apparently. So you can trust us with your kids in a classroom but not in a group video meet.


Do you happen to have a link to this guidance? I hadn’t heard this information before.


There is NO, absolutely NO, state guidance saying this FP. You are completely incorrect. If your school system dictates no live platform then that is fine but don't lie about what the state is saying.


If I am incorrect then my school is incorrect because that’s what we were told today by admin. I’m not lying, there’s just no consistent message apparently. For us, it’s not allowed.



Your school can make its own choices; however, the STATE has said nothing like that.


That’s fine but my school SAID it was a state directive and so have others!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.



That was rude and completely uncalled for. This teacher makes some good points and seems to care more about the safety of her kids than showing off online. And you call that toxic? I feel sorry for teachers who have to deal with you. You are very rude.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.


I agree this person sounds way too judgmental. But your response is over the top funny. I love these types of comments. It makes me laugh to see that some people think their anonymous online insults carry weight or that anyone cares about whether you’d want them as their child’s teacher. PP doesn’t sound like good time at the beach but you come across MUCH MUCH worse. You’re just distastefully rude for no reason.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.


I agree this person sounds way too judgmental. But your response is over the top funny. I love these types of comments. It makes me laugh to see that some people think their anonymous online insults carry weight or that anyone cares about whether you’d want them as their child’s teacher. PP doesn’t sound like good time at the beach but you come across MUCH MUCH worse. You’re just distastefully rude for no reason.


Huh. The first poster slams her colleagues, the second poster cites her for it, and you slam the second poster? You're another teacher I don't want around my kids. Here is the behavior dynamic: instigator, tattle tale, teacher reprimands tattle tale. Yikes all around for bad judgement from posters 1 and 3.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.


I agree this person sounds way too judgmental. But your response is over the top funny. I love these types of comments. It makes me laugh to see that some people think their anonymous online insults carry weight or that anyone cares about whether you’d want them as their child’s teacher. PP doesn’t sound like good time at the beach but you come across MUCH MUCH worse. You’re just distastefully rude for no reason.


Huh. The first poster slams her colleagues, the second poster cites her for it, and you slam the second poster? You're another teacher I don't want around my kids. Here is the behavior dynamic: instigator, tattle tale, teacher reprimands tattle tale. Yikes all around for bad judgement from posters 1 and 3.


The 2nd poster didn’t cite anything. She was worse than the first poster who sits in jealous judgement of her more tech-savvy, progressive colleagues. They both suck but Mean Mommy sucks more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: Literally every one else I know in other parts of the country has received SOMETHING from their schools. I don't care that it's 190,000 students. Learn how to scale up. This is a terrible place to live, we're moving as soon as feasible.


Just to clarify are you saying something in terms of technology or just work for the children to complete while out of school?
Anonymous
Dang, that was a harsh judgment. The person was being honest. People are entitled to their opinions about technology. Right now there is no other option because of this situation.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Zoom is free but my children’s privacy matters more than anything. Teachers can send material but should not expect students and parents to post videos and pictures online.


Agree.


I’m a teacher and I agree. I don’t have a Twitter or IG for my class either. A lot of teachers do and I don’t think most parents look. I’d rather just email them pictures of the kids than post on a platform like Twitter or Instagram. I think a big part of why teachers use those is to show off what they’re working on and try to make themselves look like the perfect teacher to impress their admin or people on job interviews. I have no business posting photos of my students for just anyone to see. My team teacher has Twitter and you don’t need an account to go on and see photos of our students. It might make her look like a better teacher but I honestly worry about just anyone stealing the images or knowing where the student in the photo goes to school and who their teacher is. That’s too much information to give out to the public in my opinion. Maybe I look like a lazy teacher by not having a class Twitter or IG, but honestly I just value my students’ safety a lot.

I made a flip grid during this time and I think it’s good because you need a “.edu” email to get in. No one else can access the flip grid or post to it. It’s optional just so students can see each other. I pray that doesn’t somehow get hacked because now I’m worrying some creep could get my password and post on my flip grid... yikes! I guess it calls for a very strong password.

I’m not a fan of online teaching already. Thank you to all the parents for their patience. We want to connect with the kids and teach them but also respect privacy of families.


Wow, I have no idea who you are but you sound toxic. I would hate for you to be teaching my children when you are so negative and derogatory about your colleagues. Sheesh. I think you need to find a different profession.


I agree this person sounds way too judgmental. But your response is over the top funny. I love these types of comments. It makes me laugh to see that some people think their anonymous online insults carry weight or that anyone cares about whether you’d want them as their child’s teacher. PP doesn’t sound like good time at the beach but you come across MUCH MUCH worse. You’re just distastefully rude for no reason.


Huh. The first poster slams her colleagues, the second poster cites her for it, and you slam the second poster? You're another teacher I don't want around my kids. Here is the behavior dynamic: instigator, tattle tale, teacher reprimands tattle tale. Yikes all around for bad judgement from posters 1 and 3.


The 2nd poster didn’t cite anything. She was worse than the first poster who sits in jealous judgement of her more tech-savvy, progressive colleagues. They both suck but Mean Mommy sucks more.
Anonymous
I hope the really small-minded and unaware OP
has seen all the articles about privacy concerns and can now see past his/her narrow selfish concerns to understand that FCPS has to think about much bigger issues than just his/her childcare. https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/1/21202584/zoom-security-privacy-issues-video-conferencing-software-coronavirus-demand-response

I so appreciate the time and care FCPS puts into developing its procedures, keeping best practices in mind. And, no, I don’t work for FCPS. I’m just a parent of three
FCPS students who has always appreciated the way FCPS puts
research and pedagogy behind its practices in a way most school systems do not.
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