Unmarried women happiest

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the cause of white population decline.

Now we just need brown to get down with childlessness and we might save the planet.

1) Brown babies worldwide aren’t haven’t as much impact on the environment as white babies in the US, Canada, and Europe. If you want to save the world, convince Larla in Chevy Chase to have 1 child or adopt and live in a condo, take public transportation, and stop eating beef and pork.

2) Why do you assume all brown women want to be mothers?

I’m AA. Of my maternal grandmother’s 11 siblings, 6 were women who never had children. Only two of those were maiden aunts. I have 4 female first cousins between ages 30-45. Two never wanted to have kids and don’t. Of my 8 female second cousins ages 30-50, only one has a child and she has one, now 22 years old. My own girls are ambivalent about parenthood and I’ll support their plans either way.
Among my AA and Hispanic friends ages 38-55, over half never wanted kids or were ambivalent. Many are from large families so they know the costs of motherhood and wanted careers, travel, or less stress.

None of my brothers have children. One of my SIL said she married my brother only after he agreed to not have children. Of my roughly 20 male first and second cousins, only three have children.

DH is also one of many AA siblings and most have no kids. They can afford them, but don’t want any.

The population explosion is happening in India and Africa. Not Europe.
I don’t pretend to speak for those women. I’d just like to see about 4 billion fewer people on the planet.

Start with the individuals with the largest carbon footprints. Hint: they aren't in India and Africa.

[Anonymous]

I think the cause and effect here are switched.

Some women are genuinely happy with their own lives. Maybe they are just naturally happy people, maybe they have awesome lives, maybe both. But for whatever reason, they are happy. These women are less likely to get married - why would they need to change things?

Women who are not completely happy end up looking for marriage, thinking it will make them happy. As it turns out, though, marriage doesn't turn an unhappy person into a happy one. If you are always searching for something better, you'll never be 100% happy where you are.

[Anonymous]

married with children here.

I fantasize regularly about being alone and how nice to would be to go home to my own place. I'd like to have my kid, and I'd like to see my husband regularly but not actually have to live with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have read several studies that lean toward this over the years. I believe it for the most part. Every older single woman I know is happy - they have no relationship complications; don’t have to take care of anyone but themselves; don’t have to worry about grown children or grandchildren.

My aunt is single by choice and she works a moderately low paying job she loves; has been to the Peace Corp twice and is signing up again when she turns 67; and has lots of friends and interests. She has no in-laws and few obligations. She has a life I envy at times.

I envy her too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a bunch of single women friends with no kids and no partners. I do think they're happier than me -- I also think they are naive in a certain way. Not as a bad thing -- but naive to the huge sacrifice of having kids.

Or they DO realize the huge sacrifice of having kids and decided not to do it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a bunch of single women friends with no kids and no partners. I do think they're happier than me -- I also think they are naive in a certain way. Not as a bad thing -- but naive to the huge sacrifice of having kids.

Or they DO realize the huge sacrifice of having kids and decided not to do it.

this - single/late 30s/CFBC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a bunch of single women friends with no kids and no partners. I do think they're happier than me -- I also think they are naive in a certain way. Not as a bad thing -- but naive to the huge sacrifice of having kids.

Or they DO realize the huge sacrifice of having kids and decided not to do it.

+1 I am married, no kids by choice - and it's because I don't think I have it in me to make the sacrifices that would be required for a kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cause of white population decline.

Now we just need brown to get down with childlessness and we might save the planet.

1) Brown babies worldwide aren’t haven’t as much impact on the environment as white babies in the US, Canada, and Europe. If you want to save the world, convince Larla in Chevy Chase to have 1 child or adopt and live in a condo, take public transportation, and stop eating beef and pork.

2) Why do you assume all brown women want to be mothers?

I’m AA. Of my maternal grandmother’s 11 siblings, 6 were women who never had children. Only two of those were maiden aunts. I have 4 female first cousins between ages 30-45. Two never wanted to have kids and don’t. Of my 8 female second cousins ages 30-50, only one has a child and she has one, now 22 years old. My own girls are ambivalent about parenthood and I’ll support their plans either way.
Among my AA and Hispanic friends ages 38-55, over half never wanted kids or were ambivalent. Many are from large families so they know the costs of motherhood and wanted careers, travel, or less stress.

None of my brothers have children. One of my SIL said she married my brother only after he agreed to not have children. Of my roughly 20 male first and second cousins, only three have children.

DH is also one of many AA siblings and most have no kids. They can afford them, but don’t want any.

Whites already aren't having kids, as evidenced by their declining fertility and aging populations which is, hilariously enough, often used to justify more immigration from overpopulated countries with astronomical birthrates and poor environmental controls. In the US at least, if you want to reduce emissions and environmental impact then tell Pablo and Juanita to quit sharting out a dozen kids they can't afford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My thoughts are that I don't give a flying crap if Paul Dolan is a professor of behavioural science at the London School of Economics and I don't give a flying crap if he said the latest evidence showed that the traditional markers used to measure success did not correlate with happiness – particularly marriage and raising children.

He still doesn't get to speak for ALL women or ANY women for that matter so he can stick his hypothesis up his ass.

Uncle spotted here. But a little close to home, did it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My thoughts are that I don't give a flying crap if Paul Dolan is a professor of behavioural science at the London School of Economics and I don't give a flying crap if he said the latest evidence showed that the traditional markers used to measure success did not correlate with happiness – particularly marriage and raising children.

He still doesn't get to speak for ALL women or ANY women for that matter so he can stick his hypothesis up his ass.

You seem really triggered by the idea that a woman can be happy without a partner or children. Why is that?

No but I was triggered by the doofus'ology of a man saying he knows what makes women happy.
HA!!!!!
That is as pompous as it is preposterous.
NO MAN knows what makes women happy because women themselves don't know what the hell makes them happy.

This is how scholarship works. You don't have to have cancer to study cancer, nonetheless can study athletes etc.

[Anonymous]

I gladly sacrificed my career for my kids. I will NOT, now that the last one is going off to college, sacrifice the rest of my life to allow my husband total freedom over his schedule. He doesn't need to spend every day, morning and evening, playing his preferred sport. There needs to be time to fix faucets, share responsibility for the sick dog, etc. unless he is willing to hire it out. Which he isn't.

[Anonymous]

The scholar of the source material the article is based on badly misinterpreted the data and his conclusions have been widely debunked. It didn’t even take that long.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WilcoxNMP/status/1133699894257082369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-29934102541588464119.ampproject.net%2F1906111828200%2Fframe.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The scholar of the source material the article is based on badly misinterpreted the data and his conclusions have been widely debunked. It didn’t even take that long.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WilcoxNMP/status/1133699894257082369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-29934102541588464119.ampproject.net%2F1906111828200%2Fframe.html

There's really no definitive way to measure it, is there? I'm sure the study you cited could be debunked by another study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scholar of the source material the article is based on badly misinterpreted the data and his conclusions have been widely debunked. It didn’t even take that long.

https://mobile.twitter.com/WilcoxNMP/status/1133699894257082369?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwgr%5E393039363b636f6e74726f6c&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-29934102541588464119.ampproject.net%2F1906111828200%2Fframe.html

There's really no definitive way to measure it, is there? I'm sure the study you cited could be debunked by another study.

They weren't citing another study - someone looked at the data, and it in no way supported that unmarried women are happier. The author who said that has actually withdrawn that claim - the media totally botched the reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the cause of white population decline.

Now we just need brown to get down with childlessness and we might save the planet.

1) Brown babies worldwide aren’t haven’t as much impact on the environment as white babies in the US, Canada, and Europe. If you want to save the world, convince Larla in Chevy Chase to have 1 child or adopt and live in a condo, take public transportation, and stop eating beef and pork.

2) Why do you assume all brown women want to be mothers?

I’m AA. Of my maternal grandmother’s 11 siblings, 6 were women who never had children. Only two of those were maiden aunts. I have 4 female first cousins between ages 30-45. Two never wanted to have kids and don’t. Of my 8 female second cousins ages 30-50, only one has a child and she has one, now 22 years old. My own girls are ambivalent about parenthood and I’ll support their plans either way.
Among my AA and Hispanic friends ages 38-55, over half never wanted kids or were ambivalent. Many are from large families so they know the costs of motherhood and wanted careers, travel, or less stress.

None of my brothers have children. One of my SIL said she married my brother only after he agreed to not have children. Of my roughly 20 male first and second cousins, only three have children.

DH is also one of many AA siblings and most have no kids. They can afford them, but don’t want any.

The population explosion is happening in India and Africa. Not Europe.
I don’t pretend to speak for those women. I’d just like to see about 4 billion fewer people on the planet.

Start with the individuals with the largest carbon footprints. Hint: they aren't in India and Africa.

I agree. So, we should never let people from small carbon footprint countries into the US. It's terrible for the environment.