How do you handle your kids being around unvaccinated children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

Then you and the family pp describes are the definition of a reasonable medical exemption and you should be more angry than anyone that anti vaxxers are endangering children like yours who could previously have depended on herd immunity to keep them safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well...if your kid is vaccinated, then you have nothing to be concerned about. It’s not like being unvaccinated is catching or anything.

Agree with this. I think the other posts are a bit much.

well, welcome to science, vaccines are not 100% effective, plus for highly contagious diseases, i.e. measles, over 95% of the population needs to be vaccinated for 'herd immunity' to work, plus there are people with medical conditions who cannot be vaccinate so your theory is not correct and those of us who can be vaccinated should be as to not be an asshole and not give children with cancer measles.

I would not be close enough friends with anyone who doesn't vaccinate their kids for my kid to spend a lot of time with their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

No dice. If you are an ignorant disease vector who chose not to vaccinate, shunning is exactly what you deserve. So happy the "religious exemption" losers are finally losing ground.

[Anonymous]

Whoa. This thread is full of ignorance. There are important reasons why a child might not be vaccinated or only partially vaccinated. You shun these kids? lol

Why don’t you make them all wear a symbol so you know who to stay away from and you can treat them like crap?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would also out the anti vaxxer to everyone I know.

Most are pretty loud and proud

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whoa. This thread is full of ignorance. There are important reasons why a child might not be vaccinated or only partially vaccinated. You shun these kids? lol

Why don’t you make them all wear a symbol so you know who to stay away from and you can treat them like crap?

No, if you have a good medical reason, you won't have any trouble finding a pediatrician who will help you get caught up in time for school, which was what the pp claimed. We have our kids at a pediatric practice that is adamant they won't do an alternate schedule or see unvaccinated children, but they are more than willing to get kids caught up who needed to delay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

Then you and the family pp describes are the definition of a reasonable medical exemption and you should be more angry than anyone that anti vaxxers are endangering children like yours who could previously have depended on herd immunity to keep them safe.

Getting a medical exemption is extremely difficult. In our case, the reasons are definitely medical and not ideological, but drs are reluctant to give exemptions. So we are in this grey zone were her pediatrician respects our concerns and gives us advice on which shots would be the most important for her to have given her medical history. But no,i don’t have medical exemption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

Then you and the family pp describes are the definition of a reasonable medical exemption and you should be more angry than anyone that anti vaxxers are endangering children like yours who could previously have depended on herd immunity to keep them safe.

Getting a medical exemption is extremely difficult. In our case, the reasons are definitely medical and not ideological, but drs are reluctant to give exemptions. So we are in this grey zone were her pediatrician respects our concerns and gives us advice on which shots would be the most important for her to have given her medical history. But no,i don’t have medical exemption.

So the reasons are ideological and not medical?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

Then you and the family pp describes are the definition of a reasonable medical exemption and you should be more angry than anyone that anti vaxxers are endangering children like yours who could previously have depended on herd immunity to keep them safe.

Getting a medical exemption is extremely difficult. In our case, the reasons are definitely medical and not ideological, but drs are reluctant to give exemptions. So we are in this grey zone were her pediatrician respects our concerns and gives us advice on which shots would be the most important for her to have given her medical history. But no,i don’t have medical exemption.

So the reasons are ideological and not medical?

No not ideological.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

Then you and the family pp describes are the definition of a reasonable medical exemption and you should be more angry than anyone that anti vaxxers are endangering children like yours who could previously have depended on herd immunity to keep them safe.

Getting a medical exemption is extremely difficult. In our case, the reasons are definitely medical and not ideological, but drs are reluctant to give exemptions. So we are in this grey zone were her pediatrician respects our concerns and gives us advice on which shots would be the most important for her to have given her medical history. But no,i don’t have medical exemption.

So the reasons are ideological and not medical?

No not ideological.

Sorry, sister. A "grey zone where her pediatrician respects our concerns," is in fact, your ideology or ignorance. Not medical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very much pro vaccine, but some of you are nuts— and/or assholes.
I know a family whose older child had a very bad reaction to a vaccine as a baby. Consequently, they waited until the kid was older to finish the vaccines. The next kid is 2 or 3 and hasn’t had any shots yet. The parents want to get her caught up now, but are having trouble finding a doc who will take them, since they aren’t up to date on shots.
This is that the hateful attitude and shunning of people who don’t toe the vaccine line does.
It makes people less likely to vaccinate their kids, not more.
Understanding & education are better approaches.

The voice of reason. I’m that family. My little one is partially vaccinated for that reason. Shunning people is not helpful.

Then you and the family pp describes are the definition of a reasonable medical exemption and you should be more angry than anyone that anti vaxxers are endangering children like yours who could previously have depended on herd immunity to keep them safe.

Getting a medical exemption is extremely difficult. In our case, the reasons are definitely medical and not ideological, but drs are reluctant to give exemptions. So we are in this grey zone were her pediatrician respects our concerns and gives us advice on which shots would be the most important for her to have given her medical history. But no,i don’t have medical exemption.

So the reasons are ideological and not medical?

No not ideological.

Sorry, sister. A "grey zone where her pediatrician respects our concerns," is in fact, your ideology or ignorance. Not medical.

You have no clue what you’re taking about, sister. My other kids are up to date. You’re the dogmatic one here. Nuanced thinking is not your strength.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. I'm not an anti vaxxer. In fact, I am the opposite. I spend a lot of time working with an advocacy group trying to get important vaccination info out there.

Calling people trash is not helpful. It's the opposite actually. Unchecked anxiety, hysteria and name calling are not going to fix this problem.

+1. It actually feeds into the anti-vax narrative. It promotes an us vs. them mentality. Yes, they are wrong. Yes, absent legitimate medical reasons, children should be vaccinated. But just like a number of other choices, hostility is only going to return hostility. And the more attention this draws as a cultural, rather than scientific, issue, the worse it will be for everyone. It's not really different from the community shaming and abstinence only education strategy of reducing the harms of teen sex. Sure, society could exclude and shame anyone that engages in any consensual sexual activity outside of a legally defined monogamous relationship. If everyone abided by that kind of rule (not the shaming, but the confining their own activity), it would dramatically reduce the STI rates and unintended pregancies. And yet, promoting those policies has been shown to have the opposite effect. Similarly, it would be better if people did not engage in substance abuse. Calling addicts trash does not promote recovery or reduce addiction rates. The best case for both of those is enabling people to make the right choices for themselves, including reversing course when they make mistakes. It is much easier to admit that you were wrong about blueberry muffins being better than bananna nut, rather than some core principle like medical autonomy.

Nahhh....trash is trash. If you for one second think science or facts or 6 month old kids getting measles or dying from coughing would change the trash’s mind, you are so, so wrong. Just take a look at these disgusting apologists saying vaccinated kids are safe and they’re in grey areas and it’s the same as car seats. Treat these ignorant people like they treat others when they don’t vaccinate - with self sufficient superiority that is actually justified.

[Anonymous]

I think its sad that there are such extremest views and these same people come elementary school are hands off parents who only care about themselves.

Kids have reactions to vaccines especially when they are getting multiple doses at once. Our doctors after an extreme reaction and hospitalization allowed us to limit the shots but they also said that they don't regularly agree because most parents don't come back and are resistant to multiple doctor appointments.

[Anonymous]

If anyone has a brain in their head they will vaccinate.

If they choose not to they are harming other children, their families and strangers and should be held accountable, for example, when children/adults break out in measles which can kill a child/adult.

Simply unconscionable. Anti-vaxxers likely do not believe in climate change.

Read this:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/scientology-cruise-ship-quarantine-measles-outbreak-830304/

The Scientology nuts have a cruise and an outbreak. This says it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well...if your kid is vaccinated, then you have nothing to be concerned about. It’s not like being unvaccinated is catching or anything.

Agree with this. I think the other posts are a bit much.

well, welcome to science, vaccines are not 100% effective, plus for highly contagious diseases, i.e. measles, over 95% of the population needs to be vaccinated for 'herd immunity' to work, plus there are people with medical conditions who cannot be vaccinate so your theory is not correct and those of us who can be vaccinated should be as to not be an asshole and not give children with cancer measles.

I would not be close enough friends with anyone who doesn't vaccinate their kids for my kid to spend a lot of time with their kids.

Please- use sentences, like literate adults can write.