Never moving to Loudoun

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Anonymous wrote:It was a good attempt to teach history. There will always be someone offended about racism and it's always not the minority but liberal whites

I do wish liberal white would stop crying racism. It just diminishes racism claims by minorities by desensitizing people because it's over used. I wish people would also take the time to see the offender's offense in the context of the person's past behavior. If a white teacher has always been been respectful and inclusive of minorities, maybe don't crucify them because of one hair brained idea. No one is perfect. Demonizing people who are for diversity and inclusion because of one mistake just alienates perfectly good allies.

Ummm. Wasn’t it an AA parent who complained in this case?

Also, you can be white and be appalled by racism. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

In this case an AA complained, but in other cases no. You can be white and be appalled by racism, but it's important to pick your battles. All racism is bad, but you can't make a big deal about every act of racism. People become tone deaf when everything is called out for racism or sexism, which risks significant acts of racism or sexism being dismissed as just another overreaction.

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Anonymous wrote:As an LCPS teacher I just want to apologize and say the vast majority of us are super horrified at all the stories that have come out this year about LCPS employees, including this one. Hard for me to see how this idea wasn't stopped by someone with good sense. Some people are just clueless. Most of us are not like this and overall your kids are still in good hands at LCPS schools.

Thank you. It’s reassuring to see someone say, “Yep. That was a f**k up”. All the LCPS posters on here defending it is scarier than one teacher with terrible judgment.

I didn’t see anyone saying this was a good idea. What some of us expressed is fatigue with how phony liberals will go out of their way to condemn a teacher who probably is not only underpaid, but also contending with too many kids in a class, instructions to find ways to make BHM relevant to every activity, and constant monitoring to see whether he/she is closing a permanent gap at their school, all so that those liberals can demonstrate their own virtue and avoid any sacrifices they might ever be called upon to make to improve the quality of education for other kids.

DP. this is called making an excuse for poor judgement. When a poor black kid makes a poor judgement call do you also make excuse for him, saying that he was probably hungry, stressed, had ptsd from an abusive family?

Do you have a particular incident in mind? It’s creepy that you assume a poor black kid probably has PTSD and came from an abusive family.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh c’mon. One gym teacher represents an entire county!? I live in Maryland. But I know a bunch of people who live in Louden. All of them are lovely people. There are racists and idiots everywhere.

Because those of us who live in Fairfax and Arlington saw this and aren’t the least bit surprised. Because Loudoun.

Fairfax isn't so perfect either. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_1358044

Arlington also has it's own issues--for example, the Arlington Forest debacle where the school board let white parents dictate school boundaries to make Wakefield even more racially segregated.

Yes, it’s embarrassing and inexcusable. But it’s also embarrassing to see the Arlington and Fairfax posters jumping on this thread to congratulate themselves on their county’s comparative wokeness. I’m sure you chose your lily-white Arlington school district because of its racial equality.

You can be white neighborhood and not be racist. Poor logic.

DP. Sure, but Arlington whites showed themselves to be the "liberal" hypocrites that they are when they thought their white neighborhood was going to be moved to Wakefield. Those in glass houses shouldn't come on this thread and start bashing Loudoun as a whole for the actions on one teacher. In Arlington it was the concerted efforts of a whole neighborhood, and the school board went along with it.

No different in Fairfax. We have School Board members who vote to resegregate schools like Luther Jackson MS through boundary changes at the same time as they give tearful speeches about their commitment to “equity.”

Agreed. Luther Jackson is a good example of where progress is halted or reversed by people who only support equality in education as long as their kids (or the kids of their constituents) can go to the "whitest" school possible. The same with FCPS keeping IB in high schools that would be way better off with a school with a combination of AP and honors classes, all to pander to the white parents who want their kids in an essentially segregated program. Anyone who really wanted to do what's best for the majority of students in schools like Annandale, Lee and Justice would absolutely remove IB from those schools and have a magnet IB school instead. Alas, we all know who the school board will pander to. I find these examples of systemic bias towards serving the needs of only on segment of the school population more concerning that a one off incident by one teacher.

The best high school in the county (TJ) is 70% Asian

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Anonymous wrote:As an LCPS teacher I just want to apologize and say the vast majority of us are super horrified at all the stories that have come out this year about LCPS employees, including this one. Hard for me to see how this idea wasn't stopped by someone with good sense. Some people are just clueless. Most of us are not like this and overall your kids are still in good hands at LCPS schools.

Thank you. It’s reassuring to see someone say, “Yep. That was a f**k up”. All the LCPS posters on here defending it is scarier than one teacher with terrible judgment.

I didn’t see anyone saying this was a good idea. What some of us expressed is fatigue with how phony liberals will go out of their way to condemn a teacher who probably is not only unprepared, but also contending with too many kids in a class, instructions to find ways to make BHM relevant to every activity, and constant monitoring to see whether he/she is closing a permanent gap at their school, all so that those liberals can demonstrate their own virtue and avoid any sacrifices they might ever be called upon to make to improve the quality of education for other kids.

Then you didn’t read the thread. Bottom of page 4 “it’s a good way to teach history”

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Anonymous wrote:It was a good attempt to teach history. There will always be someone offended about racism and it's always not the minority but liberal whites

I do wish liberal white would stop crying racism. It just diminishes racism claims by minorities by desensitizing people because it's over used. I wish people would also take the time to see the offender's offense in the context of the person's past behavior. If a white teacher has always been been respectful and inclusive of minorities, maybe don't crucify them because of one hair brained idea. No one is perfect. Demonizing people who are for diversity and inclusion because of one mistake just alienates perfectly good allies.

Ummm. Wasn’t it an AA parent who complained in this case?

Also, you can be white and be appalled by racism. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

In this case an AA complained, but in other cases no. You can be white and be appalled by racism, but it's important to pick your battles. All racism is bad, but you can't make a big deal about every act of racism. People become tone deaf when everything is called out for racism or sexism, which risks significant acts of racism or sexism being dismissed as just another overreaction.

You realize that this thread is about this case?

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Anonymous wrote:As an LCPS teacher I just want to apologize and say the vast majority of us are super horrified at all the stories that have come out this year about LCPS employees, including this one. Hard for me to see how this idea wasn't stopped by someone with good sense. Some people are just clueless. Most of us are not like this and overall your kids are still in good hands at LCPS schools.

Thank you. It’s reassuring to see someone say, “Yep. That was a f**k up”. All the LCPS posters on here defending it is scarier than one teacher with terrible judgment.

I didn’t see anyone saying this was a good idea. What some of us expressed is fatigue with how phony liberals will go out of their way to condemn a teacher who probably is not only unprepared, but also contending with too many kids in a class, instructions to find ways to make BHM relevant to every activity, and constant monitoring to see whether he/she is closing a permanent gap at their school, all so that those liberals can demonstrate their own virtue and avoid any sacrifices they might ever be called upon to make to improve the quality of education for other kids.

Then you didn’t read the thread. Bottom of page 4 “it’s a good way to teach history”

If you had to get to the bottom of p.4 to find this, that’s a pretty good indication that most readily agreed this was a bad idea. It doesn’t change the fact that the hand-wringing is over the top. Next year they should just toss biographies of Althea Gibson and Jesse Owens at the kids and make them read at their desks.

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DP. this is called making an excuse for poor judgement. When a poor black kid makes a poor judgement call do you also make excuse for him, saying that he was probably hungry, stressed, had ptsd from an abusive family?

Not either PP--but I was a teacher who frequently made excuses and tried to help kids like that resolve those kinds of problems. And, believe me, there are lots and lots of teachers who do the same. In fact, I would say that most teachers of kids with those issues try to help them.

Do you really think they do not?

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OP, admit it. You're "never moving to Loudoun" because they have the audacity to let people of color even live in the county limits, much less muck up their schools.

Enjoy Richlands.

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Anonymous wrote:It was a good attempt to teach history. There will always be someone offended about racism and it's always not the minority but liberal whites

I do wish liberal white would stop crying racism. It just diminishes racism claims by minorities by desensitizing people because it's over used. I wish people would also take the time to see the offender's offense in the context of the person's past behavior. If a white teacher has always been been respectful and inclusive of minorities, maybe don't crucify them because of one hair brained idea. No one is perfect. Demonizing people who are for diversity and inclusion because of one mistake just alienates perfectly good allies.

Ummm. Wasn’t it an AA parent who complained in this case?

Also, you can be white and be appalled by racism. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

In this case an AA complained, but in other cases no. You can be white and be appalled by racism, but it's important to pick your battles. All racism is bad, but you can't make a big deal about every act of racism. People become tone deaf when everything is called out for racism or sexism, which risks significant acts of racism or sexism being dismissed as just another overreaction.

You realize that this thread is about this case?

You realize people have also talked about related topics, right? TJ, Fairfax, Arlington....Also, I'm not the initial poster about liberal whites, I responded explaining why I too feel liberal whites should be more judicious about labeling things as racism. If you think my post is irrelevant to the thread, feel free to ignore it.

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Anonymous wrote:As an LCPS teacher I just want to apologize and say the vast majority of us are super horrified at all the stories that have come out this year about LCPS employees, including this one. Hard for me to see how this idea wasn't stopped by someone with good sense. Some people are just clueless. Most of us are not like this and overall your kids are still in good hands at LCPS schools.

Thank you. It’s reassuring to see someone say, “Yep. That was a f**k up”. All the LCPS posters on here defending it is scarier than one teacher with terrible judgment.

I didn’t see anyone saying this was a good idea. What some of us expressed is fatigue with how phony liberals will go out of their way to condemn a teacher who probably is not only unprepared, but also contending with too many kids in a class, instructions to find ways to make BHM relevant to every activity, and constant monitoring to see whether he/she is closing a permanent gap at their school, all so that those liberals can demonstrate their own virtue and avoid any sacrifices they might ever be called upon to make to improve the quality of education for other kids.

Oh come on. LCPS / Madison's Trust is hardly some systemically burdened district /school with massive class sizes and no funding or resources. That excuse doesn't fly here. This was educators lacking foresight and sensitivity and awareness and planning a lesson that is at the least tone deaf and trivializing of a seriously painful part of history and at worst racially insensitive and offensive. Entirely inappropriate no matter what.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, admit it. You're "never moving to Loudoun" because they have the audacity to let people of color even live in the county limits, much less muck up their schools.

Enjoy Richlands.

Um, no. I am the OP and a POC. Believe it or not, we are on DCUM too, despite the rampant insidious racism.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, admit it. You're "never moving to Loudoun" because they have the audacity to let people of color even live in the county limits, much less muck up their schools.

Enjoy Richlands.

Um, no. I am the OP and a POC. Believe it or not, we are on DCUM too, despite the rampant insidious racism.

Dp. Im also a POC, OP, and I think making blanket statements like never moving to Loudoun isn't helpful. Bring attention to the issue without getting hysterical. There are issues everywhere, including many in counties surrounding Loudoun (e.g. Fairfax and Arlington). Painting everyone in Loudoun with the same brush is counterproductive.

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Dear OP: Good. We're already sick of newcomers, especially belly-aching liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, admit it. You're "never moving to Loudoun" because they have the audacity to let people of color even live in the county limits, much less muck up their schools.

Enjoy Richlands.

Um, no. I am the OP and a POC. Believe it or not, we are on DCUM too, despite the rampant insidious racism.

Dp. Im also a POC, OP, and I think making blanket statements like never moving to Loudoun isn't helpful. Bring attention to the issue without getting hysterical. There are issues everywhere, including many in counties surrounding Loudoun (e.g. Fairfax and Arlington). Painting everyone in Loudoun with the same brush is counterproductive.

I’m also never moving to Bali. Does that make me hysterical? They were many much more hysterical than me. I just posted the article.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh c’mon. One gym teacher represents an entire county!? I live in Maryland. But I know a bunch of people who live in Louden. All of them are lovely people. There are racists and idiots everywhere.

Because those of us who live in Fairfax and Arlington saw this and aren’t the least bit surprised. Because Loudoun.

Fairfax is just as bad maybe worse. I’ve haven’t heard that Arlington is the most inclusive place either