New thread -- actual MS magnet results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected from both, not even waitlisted. Feeder to Lee MS (crappy DCC MS).

97% V
99% Q
99% N
99% Composite.

Straight As in 5th grade, 99% MAPs, PARCC 5s.

WTF?

Great scores and clearly not a cohort issue. Wish ut made more sense.

It has to be a cohort issue. Maybe there were 1-2 outliers 99th percentile everything and higher scores.
PP with the kid with those great scores I echo your WTF.

Clearly not a cohort issue at the forementioned MS. It's not a W feeder so no cohort. The real problem (unlike the imaginary cohort isssue) is admission to the magnets is very competitive. There are roughly 12k kids in the grade and just a few hundred seats.

If you really cared about your child's education, you'd live in bounds @TPMS.

[Anonymous]

In addition to cohort criteria, MCPS use holistic review and they recognize human error. I am always wondering if they shuffle the documents and evaluate again, are they able to recover their initial decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rejected from both, not even waitlisted. Feeder to Lee MS (crappy DCC MS).

97% V
99% Q
99% N
99% Composite.

Straight As in 5th grade, 99% MAPs, PARCC 5s.

WTF?

Great scores and clearly not a cohort issue. Wish ut made more sense.

It has to be a cohort issue. Maybe there were 1-2 outliers 99th percentile everything and higher scores.
PP with the kid with those great scores I echo your WTF.

Clearly not a cohort issue at the forementioned MS. It's not a W feeder so no cohort. The real problem (unlike the imaginary cohort isssue) is admission to the magnets is very competitive. There are roughly 12k kids in the grade and just a few hundred seats.

If you really cared about your child's education, you'd live in bounds @TPMS.

How does living in bounds guarantee you a Magnet spot?

Also, not everyone can afford TP.

[Anonymous]

Rejected from both, no waitlists either. Also feeding to Lee MS.

MCPS percentiles (national were much higher, especially verbal)
83% Verbal
94% Quantitative
99% Nnonverbal

All As in 5th grade, 99% on both MAPs, 5s on PARCC tests.

Will appeal, but appeal just gets on waitlist for "Not recommended" students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rejected from both, no waitlists either. Also feeding to Lee MS.

MCPS percentiles (national were much higher, especially verbal)
83% Verbal
94% Quantitative
99% Nnonverbal

All As in 5th grade, 99% on both MAPs, 5s on PARCC tests.

Will appeal, but appeal just gets on waitlist for "Not recommended" students.

What are your grounds for an appeal, if I may ask? According to MCPS, the one and only valid reason is some kind of 'undocumented hardship', and nothing else. Not being snarky, just genuinely curious.

[Anonymous]

I am very confused after reading all these messages. My son was recommended for Takoma Park and while he always scores 99% in MAP and gets straight A's, his cogat MCPS percentiles weren't as impressive (70's and 80's). We are Causasian in a W-feeder. Not sure why he was selected, to be honest, after seeing the scores for the kids who were not recommended.

[Anonymous]

I have a kid at the Drew CES and heard from an administrator that ~25% of the CES kids were offered magnet spots. Note that this group of fifth graders was selected through universal screening (pilot program two years ago) and also that they normally feed to 7 different middle schools, diluting their cohort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am very confused after reading all these messages. My son was recommended for Takoma Park and while he always scores 99% in MAP and gets straight A's, his cogat MCPS percentiles weren't as impressive (70's and 80's). We are Causasian in a W-feeder. Not sure why he was selected, to be honest, after seeing the scores for the kids who were not recommended.

Does your child have any special circumstances (IEP, 504, anything of that matter)? Are his MAP scores unusually high?

My child was flat out rejected (not even waitlisted) from a CES with 99% percentiles pretty much across the board, while a couple of other children from his school who didn't strike me an obvious 'outliers' got in. I decided to put it behind us, and I'm not holding my breath for the next year's magnet selection. There's no rhyme or reason to what MCPS does, and it's a crying shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Received letter today. Results: wait pool for Eastern (which means essentially lottery ticket likelihood of getting in), not recommended for TPMS.

Wait pool does mean she gets into Historical Inquiry into Global Humanities.

Stats: CES school with straight As, W-feeder middle, CoGAT 99th verbal (58 correct out of 64 #/attempted), 97th quantitative (43 out of 45 attempted, 52 total), 99th nonverbal (45 correct out of 57 attempted, 60 total). MAP Fall 2018 was RIT 251 math, 99th, 283 reading, 98th. I can't remember/find PARCC scores.

Bummer.

How is 283 for MAP-R only 98%???? That should be like 99% for 11th grade.

Yeah, this person is full of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Received letter today. Results: wait pool for Eastern (which means essentially lottery ticket likelihood of getting in), not recommended for TPMS.

Wait pool does mean she gets into Historical Inquiry into Global Humanities.

Stats: CES school with straight As, W-feeder middle, CoGAT 99th verbal (58 correct out of 64 #/attempted), 97th quantitative (43 out of 45 attempted, 52 total), 99th nonverbal (45 correct out of 57 attempted, 60 total). MAP Fall 2018 was RIT 251 math, 99th, 283 reading, 98th. I can't remember/find PARCC scores.

Bummer.

How is 283 for MAP-R only 98%???? That should be like 99% for 11th grade.

Yeah, this person is full of it.

She fixed the typo already-- should read 238.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I have a kid at the Drew CES and heard from an administrator that ~25% of the CES kids were offered magnet spots. Note that this group of fifth graders was selected through universal screening (pilot program two years ago) and also that they normally feed to 7 different middle schools, diluting their cohort.

I think you are incorrect. I have a 5th grader, and they were not in the group with universal screening.

Universal screening started last year.

I could be wrong though. And, not sure if Drew is a Regional CES, or a local.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very confused after reading all these messages. My son was recommended for Takoma Park and while he always scores 99% in MAP and gets straight A's, his cogat MCPS percentiles weren't as impressive (70's and 80's). We are Causasian in a W-feeder. Not sure why he was selected, to be honest, after seeing the scores for the kids who were not recommended.

Does your child have any special circumstances (IEP, 504, anything of that matter)? Are his MAP scores unusually high?

My child was flat out rejected (not even waitlisted) from a CES with 99% percentiles pretty much across the board, while a couple of other children from his school who didn't strike me an obvious 'outliers' got in. I decided to put it behind us, and I'm not holding my breath for the next year's magnet selection. There's no rhyme or reason to what MCPS does, and it's a crying shame.

I don't know what's going on with the MS magnets but for elementary school students it can be really hard to pinpoint the outliers from a sea of very bright kids. But based on anecdotal evidence you have a legitimate gripe. At some schools it seems like there weren't any outliers but a lucky few had to get in so they got in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Received letter today. Results: wait pool for Eastern (which means essentially lottery ticket likelihood of getting in), not recommended for TPMS.

Wait pool does mean she gets into Historical Inquiry into Global Humanities.

Stats: CES school with straight As, W-feeder middle, CoGAT 99th verbal (58 correct out of 64 #/attempted), 97th quantitative (43 out of 45 attempted, 52 total), 99th nonverbal (45 correct out of 57 attempted, 60 total). MAP Fall 2018 was RIT 251 math, 99th, 283 reading, 98th. I can't remember/find PARCC scores.

Bummer.

How is 283 for MAP-R only 98%???? That should be like 99% for 11th grade.

Yeah, this person is full of it.

No. She came back and said she accidentally transposed the numbers. It was 238 for MAP. I believe her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very confused after reading all these messages. My son was recommended for Takoma Park and while he always scores 99% in MAP and gets straight A's, his cogat MCPS percentiles weren't as impressive (70's and 80's). We are Causasian in a W-feeder. Not sure why he was selected, to be honest, after seeing the scores for the kids who were not recommended.

Does your child have any special circumstances (IEP, 504, anything of that matter)? Are his MAP scores unusually high?

My child was flat out rejected (not even waitlisted) from a CES with 99% percentiles pretty much across the board, while a couple of other children from his school who didn't strike me an obvious 'outliers' got in. I decided to put it behind us, and I'm not holding my breath for the next year's magnet selection. There's no rhyme or reason to what MCPS does, and it's a crying shame.

I don't know what's going on with the MS magnets but for elementary school students it can be really hard to pinpoint the outliers from a sea of very bright kids. But based on anecdotal evidence you have a legitimate gripe. At some schools it seems like there weren't any outliers but a lucky few had to get in so they got in.

DP, with a kid in a Regional CES.

Maybe that's true, but at our CES, the kids do a good amount of work together. Especially in 4th grade, there were a ton of group projects. They're often allowed to work in pairs, or teams for Math worksheets, etc. They really get to know each other, and know their strengths and weaknesses. Also, the kids talk about scores, like it or not. They're pretty open about MAP scores, and grades on tests.

It's not abnormal for the kids to know that Larla is phenomenal at Math. They edit each other's work, so they know who has a strong vocabulary, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I have a kid at the Drew CES and heard from an administrator that ~25% of the CES kids were offered magnet spots. Note that this group of fifth graders was selected through universal screening (pilot program two years ago) and also that they normally feed to 7 different middle schools, diluting their cohort.

I think you are incorrect. I have a 5th grader, and they were not in the group with universal screening.

Universal screening started last year.

I could be wrong though. And, not sure if Drew is a Regional CES, or a local.

Drew is a regional CES, and the universal screening process was piloted there (and at the Fox Chapel CES) two years ago before it expanded to all the other centers.