expulsion from school

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Anonymous wrote:Holy over reaction. Every kid from the 70s would have been "ruined."

It wasn't a true weapon. And it is just pot.

I was waffling on the pot referendum in my state but now will vote to legalize.

Op get a lawyer and make it go away.

Thank you! This is ridiculous. Ten years from now, who gives a #$&*! What school is this?

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How hard would it be for OP to find a lawyer during the weekend? Do you think this is why the school sprung it on them on Friday? OP, even more reason to beat this.

She has no interest in getting a lawyer and it sounds odd this happened late in the week and everything is happening Monday.

She says she has a lawyer for the potential criminal charges. She didn't get one for the hearing, it seems because she felt he should suffer the consequences of his actions. She came for advice, so hopefully she's reconsidering getting a lawyer for the hearing. I get her being frustrated and not wanting to somehow enable her son's drug use by mitigating all the consequences. She's gotten advice that, given her assertion that her son is generally a good kid, she should mitigate the school consequences and impose appropriate consequences at home, along with requiring drug treatment. Hopefully she follows that advice.

My friend literally screamed away the problem when the drug sniffing dogs settled on her kid and his friends. Just chewed out the cops and the school administrators.[b] You do NOT let them fry your kid for smoking a little weed or vaping, that’s ridiculous. Fight back OP. [/b]

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And thanks to OP for sharing her story. All parents should be aware of the situation and potential complications. OP, lawyer, stat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:why do PPs say that the drug charges go with him forever? Is he over 18? Wouldn't it be sealed if he was under 18?

Because there are certain kinds of jobs, licenses, clearances, and job applications that require you do disclose all of it.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if he didn’t work so much, he wouldn’t need to do drugs.

I see you're back again. OP has a well rounded kid who made a mistake. There are plenty of kid with way too much free time on their hand who do drugs and get in trouble. This isn't a parenting issue, it's a teenager making a mistake issue. You really are trying to pile on OP. You should examine why you feel the need to try to kick someone when they are down. Your other posts about OP not wanting to support her child and not appropriately spending child support (all made up out of thin air), indicate you probably need to seek some help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Get a good attorney and make it clear that the knife was yours/Dad's and it is a family truck, not his. He screwed up big time. Clearly you were ignoring the drug issues.

This. Attorney. Stat.

There are attorneys who practice in this area (navigating the educational and disciplinary system). They can help you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant.

You don’t understand how police can bring in dogs to search for drugs in school grounds? Can you explain to me how this is different than dogs being used to sniff out drugs in a backpack in a locker?

Of course when there is some suspicion but random sweep no, I don’t.

[Anonymous]

WTF?

I don't care about the weed issue - he got caught and is facing the consequences.

But cuffing him and taking him in on weapons charges for a POCKET KNIFE? in his truck, not even on his person? That is completely insane!

If I were in OP's shoes, I would absolutely get an attorney and go to town on the school over that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF?

I don't care about the weed issue - he got caught and is facing the consequences.

But cuffing him and taking him in on weapons charges for a POCKET KNIFE? in his truck, not even on his person? That is completely insane!

If I were in OP's shoes, I would absolutely get an attorney and go to town on the school over that.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Holy over reaction. Every kid from the 70s would have been "ruined."

It wasn't a true weapon. And it is just pot.

I was waffling on the pot referendum in my state but now will vote to legalize.

Op get a lawyer and make it go away.

Thank you! This is ridiculous. Ten years from now, who gives a #$&*! What school is this?

x10000

How hard would it be for OP to find a lawyer during the weekend? Do you think this is why the school sprung it on them on Friday? OP, even more reason to beat this.

She has no interest in getting a lawyer and it sounds odd this happened late in the week and everything is happening Monday.

She says she has a lawyer for the potential criminal charges. She didn't get one for the hearing, it seems because she felt he should suffer the consequences of his actions. She came for advice, so hopefully she's reconsidering getting a lawyer for the hearing. I get her being frustrated and not wanting to somehow enable her son's drug use by mitigating all the consequences. She's gotten advice that, given her assertion that her son is generally a good kid, she should mitigate the school consequences and impose appropriate consequences at home, along with requiring drug treatment. Hopefully she follows that advice.

My friend literally screamed away the problem when the drug sniffing dogs settled on her kid and his friends. Just chewed out the cops and the school administrators. You go NOT let farm fry your kid for smoking a little weed or vaping, that’s ridiculous.

Chewed them out when? In court? At the school hearing? Parents/school officials in this area aren't particularly rattled by screaming relativees.There's more to this story PP.

[Anonymous]

People who are surprised about the pocket knife issue need to read up on zero tolerance laws.

This is what we get instead of common sense gun control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who are surprised about the pocket knife issue need to read up on zero tolerance laws.

This is what we get instead of common sense gun control.

In my high school way back when, everyone on the trap and skeet team kept their shotguns in the car, parked on school grounds.

The school knew about it.

Nobody ever got shot.

Nobody ever whined about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who are surprised about the pocket knife issue need to read up on zero tolerance laws.

This is what we get instead of common sense gun control.

In my high school way back when, everyone on the trap and skeet team kept their shotguns in the car, parked on school grounds.

The school knew about it.

Nobody ever got shot.

Nobody ever whined about it.

Did you also walk 5 miles to school every day in the snow, uphill both ways?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who are surprised about the pocket knife issue need to read up on zero tolerance laws.

This is what we get instead of common sense gun control.

In my high school way back when, everyone on the trap and skeet team kept their shotguns in the car, parked on school grounds.

The school knew about it.

Nobody ever got shot.

Nobody ever whined about it.

Did you also walk 5 miles to school every day in the snow, uphill both ways?

Nah, we were suburban white kids, so we drove convertibles and SUVs.

[Anonymous]

My nephew faced similar a expulsion hearing after his dad packed his lunch and included a butter knife for his laughing cow cheese & crackers. The school did take it very seriously even though my BIL was there to tell them he didn't even think that a butter knife would be illegal as he didn't typically pack lunches. Their recommendation was expulsion from the local middle school and enrollment in an alternative school. SIL & BIL checked into that school and it had serious criminals there. Like, kids who'd been to juvie, been in so many fights that they were kicked out or seriously wounded someone, etc. So they enrolled him in a private school instead. This was about 2 years ago. They even hired a good lawyer as well, but he said that schools are taking weapons found on campus more seriously than ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read my kids' school parking permit application and I do not understand how police had the right to have drug sniffing dogs go through the parking lot without any probable cause for the search in the first place. There is nothing in the application that mentions this. If a kid goes to his car when they are not supposed to and then a security officer catches him I can understand searching car but I really do not get how they are allowed to randomly send dogs through school parking lots. Hell, I thought they were not allowed to open backpacks without probably cause but maybe I am just ignorant.

This is 100% legal, even outside of the school context. A dog sniff isn't really considered a search that requires probable cause.
-A lawyer who does criminal law

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My nephew faced similar a expulsion hearing after his dad packed his lunch and included a butter knife for his laughing cow cheese & crackers. The school did take it very seriously even though my BIL was there to tell them he didn't even think that a butter knife would be illegal as he didn't typically pack lunches. Their recommendation was expulsion from the local middle school and enrollment in an alternative school. SIL & BIL checked into that school and it had serious criminals there. Like, kids who'd been to juvie, been in so many fights that they were kicked out or seriously wounded someone, etc. So they enrolled him in a private school instead. This was about 2 years ago. They even hired a good lawyer as well, but he said that schools are taking weapons found on campus more seriously than ever.

I find this impossible to believe...there has to be more to this story.