Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 3

[Anonymous]

From the clips I've seen and my experience with alcoholics, I'm going to posit that Kavanaugh is most likely a full-blown alcoholic who went from binge drinking and blackouts in his teens and twenties to steady, daily (probably all day some days) consumption to keep his addicted, altered biochemistry in check. I'm only guessing.

But first it would explain some physical things--his puffiness, extremely broken facial capilaries, and brown teeth. For moneyed folk who have the means for elective procedures, brown teeth are usually an indicator of something internal manifesting outward that can't be repaired through cosmetic dentistry, like long-term liver or kidney disease.

Second and most importantly, his behavior. He acts and over-emotes *exactly* the way an addict acts and emotes when they are forced into a situation where they *have* to be sober. Worse, he's forced into that situation because of a questioning of his prior behavior while intoxicated. Shouty, ultra-defensive, deflective, trying to seem "regular" angry except that internal gauge is broken so unable to recognize that he's coming off as rage angry, etc.

He also seems like someone who's yet to admit a problem or, worse, think he has one--so his rage never ends at having to be sober while presenting in a high pressure public forum. I bet he used to down lots of hard liquor, but switched to beer because you "can't be an alcoholic with just beer." Hence all the beer talk.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think Kavanaugh can handle the spotlight as a SCJ based on his testimony yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s misplaced to accuse posters on here of hating Kavanaugh because they don’t find him credible or think his temperament is fitting. The fact of the matter is that this SCOTUS spot is going to a conservative. Accusing people of being partisan, like Kavanaugh did, is an easy way for conservatives to stick their head in the sand about their guy. The White House could’ve chosen any number of highly-respected, qualified justists. They chose him and then, along with the GOP, doubled down on him without so much as a proper investigation when these allegations surfaced. Even now, despite Dr Ford’s credible testimony and Kavanaugh’s evasive answers and defensive responses, they are still backing him. Many of us are simply saying “NOT him. Not this guy, not for this role.”

The handlers who picked him ( dark money , federalist society and obstructionists ) are too far gone to turn back . They’re now stuck with a man who has no business being a judge let alone a Supreme Court one at that .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think he assaulted Ford. There a couple of reasons why:

1. The friend that she went to the party with does not support her story. If things happened the way that she said they did, her friend would have remembered that night. She left the party without talking to her friend. That friend would have been angry. Two girls at a house with 4 boys and one of them leaves without telling the other? That friend would have called her the next day asking what the heck happened. Also what kind of friend gets assaulted by two guys and leaves her friend in the house with the same two guys???

2. Her family is not supporting her. That is very telling.

Kavanaugh supporter here.

1. I don't think he did it either but I don't think this reasoning is sound. I've had social events where something awkward happened and I didn't really tell anyone. Maybe I brought it up later, or not at all. Girls share more with each other than boys, but I don't think they share 100% of the time, especially if they feel somehow that the situation was potentially embarrassing our could be twisted that way. I know that as a kid, sometimes I just wanted something to go away, but it refuses to fade away in my mind.

2. I didn't hear about this, is it just that they didn't come forward? If it is just not come forward publicly, I don't fault them for this. Some people are intensely private and I respect that desire and would not attach any motives to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think he assaulted Ford. There a couple of reasons why:

1. The friend that she went to the party with does not support her story. If things happened the way that she said they did, her friend would have remembered that night. She left the party without talking to her friend. That friend would have been angry. Two girls at a house with 4 boys and one of them leaves without telling the other? That friend would have called her the next day asking what the heck happened. Also what kind of friend gets assaulted by two guys and leaves her friend in the house with the same two guys???

2. Her family is not supporting her. That is very telling.

There you are, standing in the corner laughing and egging Kavanaugh on while he attacks the girl. Don’t know how you live with yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Lies:

-4 letters exonerate him
-devils traingle
-boofing
-legal drinking age
-Renete Alumni
-He claims to have not watched Dr. Ford

What else?

Sure. You know these things. You are revealing yourself to be someone who lives by emotion and not facts.
Just because YOU don’t believe him, these are all lies. Sure.

Dp, but these are all easily proven lies he told yesterday.

PROVEN lies? You are kidding me. Tell me, how do you plan on proving them?

It has been reported by multiple sources he watched her testimony, Sure. I believe them. They were at his home, I guess./s
I’ve read the letters, they are very narrow in their language, too narrow to actually exonerate him. None are sworn testimony, signed by lawyers on firm letterhead, would not be admissible. They are in public domain if you want to see them yourself. The SJC disagrees with you.

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Staff contacted Mark Judge and obtained a statement under penalty of felony. Staff contacted third person allegedly at party described by Dr. Ford and obtained a statement under penalty of felony. Staff contacted fourth person allegedly at party.
Legal drinking age, matter of public record
Renate, Devil’s Triangle, boofimg — could easily get testimony from his class at GP to rebut.Go ahead. Have them dispute it. Basically, you are saying he is lying when you have no proof of that. Typical.

Well, Mike Davis, lead counsel for the SJC is a biased asshat, so the fact he has misrepresented what he has is no surprise.

All three statements are one page letters on firm letterhead. Not one is an actual affidavit or sworn declaration. Call me a liar all you want, these lletters will not magically transform into sworn testimony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question - If Kav gets confirmed (or not) could he sue for defamation? What about Mark Jusge? Who could be liable - Ford and Feinstein?

No reason why he shouldn't. He's been harmed by demonstrably false accusations.

Even if a lawsuit isn't successful, it still forces Ford to spend a ton of money defending it, which has a punitive appeal all its own.

Unfortunately, it probably won't happen because Kav is too dignified to fight that way. And that's what I hate about our side. We Fence against people swinging chainsaws, and expect a fair fight. We're idiots that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the clips I've seen and my experience with alcoholics, I'm going to posit that Kavanaugh is most likely a full-blown alcoholic who went from binge drinking and blackouts in his teens and twenties to steady, daily (probably all day some days) consumption to keep his addicted, altered biochemistry in check. I'm only guessing.

But first it would explain some physical things--his puffiness, extremely broken facial capilaries, and brown teeth. For moneyed folk who have the means for elective procedures, brown teeth are usually an indicator of something internal manifesting outward that can't be repaired through cosmetic dentistry, like long-term liver or kidney disease.

Second and most importantly, his behavior. He acts and over-emotes *exactly* the way an addict acts and emotes when they are forced into a situation where they *have* to be sober. Worse, he's forced into that situation because of a questioning of his prior behavior while intoxicated. Shouty, ultra-defensive, deflective, trying to seem "regular" angry except that internal gauge is broken so unable to recognize that he's coming off as rage angry, etc.

He also seems like someone who's yet to admit a problem or, worse, think he has one--so his rage never ends at having to be sober while presenting in a high pressure public forum. I bet he used to down lots of hard liquor, but switched to beer because you "can't be an alcoholic with just beer." Hence all the beer talk.

I'm an dentist, and no, I believe you just made that up. I have never learned that, either in school or in numerous CE classes, nor seen it in any of the dental literature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think he assaulted Ford. There a couple of reasons why:

1. The friend that she went to the party with does not support her story. If things happened the way that she said they did, her friend would have remembered that night. She left the party without talking to her friend. That friend would have been angry. Two girls at a house with 4 boys and one of them leaves without telling the other? That friend would have called her the next day asking what the heck happened. Also what kind of friend gets assaulted by two guys and leaves her friend in the house with the same two guys???

2. Her family is not supporting her. That is very telling.

For the cheap seats in the back:
1. It wasn’t a big deal for her friend because her friend wasn’t pinned down on the bed with a drunk future frat boy trying to talk off her suit.
2. It’s not telling at all. Lots of families don’t want to rock their social boat. Women generally aren’t believed, so why speak out and get themselves banished from the club?

So she leaves her friend alone at a house with two rapists? Wow. What a good friend. It is no wonder she has no friends in the area and her family doesn't support her.
I would be shocked if her friend would not have confronted her about leaving her alone in a house with 4 guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the clips I've seen and my experience with alcoholics, I'm going to posit that Kavanaugh is most likely a full-blown alcoholic who went from binge drinking and blackouts in his teens and twenties to steady, daily (probably all day some days) consumption to keep his addicted, altered biochemistry in check. I'm only guessing.

But first it would explain some physical things--his puffiness, extremely broken facial capilaries, and brown teeth. For moneyed folk who have the means for elective procedures, brown teeth are usually an indicator of something internal manifesting outward that can't be repaired through cosmetic dentistry, like long-term liver or kidney disease.

Second and most importantly, his behavior. He acts and over-emotes *exactly* the way an addict acts and emotes when they are forced into a situation where they *have* to be sober. Worse, he's forced into that situation because of a questioning of his prior behavior while intoxicated. Shouty, ultra-defensive, deflective, trying to seem "regular" angry except that internal gauge is broken so unable to recognize that he's coming off as rage angry, etc.

He also seems like someone who's yet to admit a problem or, worse, think he has one--so his rage never ends at having to be sober while presenting in a high pressure public forum. I bet he used to down lots of hard liquor, but switched to beer because you "can't be an alcoholic with just beer." Hence all the beer talk.

Yeah I noticed the puffy face too , you have to wonder when was the last time he did a physical . I’d be curious to know what his liver looks like .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think he assaulted Ford. There a couple of reasons why:

1. The friend that she went to the party with does not support her story. If things happened the way that she said they did, her friend would have remembered that night. She left the party without talking to her friend. That friend would have been angry. Two girls at a house with 4 boys and one of them leaves without telling the other? That friend would have called her the next day asking what the heck happened. Also what kind of friend gets assaulted by two guys and leaves her friend in the house with the same two guys???

2. Her family is not supporting her. That is very telling.

For the cheap seats in the back:
1. It wasn’t a big deal for her friend because her friend wasn’t pinned down on the bed with a drunk future frat boy trying to talk off her suit.
2. It’s not telling at all. Lots of families don’t want to rock their social boat. Women generally aren’t believed, so why speak out and get themselves banished from the club?

PP is correct.
And, don’t forget that her friend, Leland, says she has never met Kavanaugh. That is important.

She also said she believed Dr. Ford. Sounds like we need sworn testimony to resolve this discrepancy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Kavanaugh can handle the spotlight as a SCJ based on his testimony yesterday.

I thought he did pretty well. Most of the commentary admitted that it was a solid job even if they were casting it in the light that Kavanaugh's counter arguments were partisan - a point that I found humorous because it wasn't Kavanaugh's choice that all the Democrats are lined up against him and some called him dangerous and/or evil. A group of people got together to destroy his reputation and life, and the media is disappointed that he is counter-attacking those people as a group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - If Kav gets confirmed (or not) could he sue for defamation? What about Mark Jusge? Who could be liable - Ford and Feinstein?

No reason why he shouldn't. He's been harmed by demonstrably false accusations.

Even if a lawsuit isn't successful, it still forces Ford to spend a ton of money defending it, which has a punitive appeal all its own.

Unfortunately, it probably won't happen because Kav is too dignified to fight that way. And that's what I hate about our side. We Fence against people swinging chainsaws, and expect a fair fight. We're idiots that way.

He won’t bring it because he would lose. The man is afraid even to have Mark Judge testify.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - If Kav gets confirmed (or not) could he sue for defamation? What about Mark Jusge? Who could be liable - Ford and Feinstein?

No reason why he shouldn't. He's been harmed by demonstrably false accusations.

Even if a lawsuit isn't successful, it still forces Ford to spend a ton of money defending it, which has a punitive appeal all its own.

Unfortunately, it probably won't happen because Kav is too dignified to fight that way. And that's what I hate about our side. We Fence against people swinging chainsaws, and expect a fair fight. We're idiots that way.

Montgomery county is in the preliminary stages of investigation into alleged sexual assault against kavanaugh ( no statute of limitations in sex crimes in MD)I’m amused dimwits like you think it’s over . He can barely live within his means , who’s going to pay for his lawyers ?? You’re a joke .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Kavanaugh can handle the spotlight as a SCJ based on his testimony yesterday.

I thought he did pretty well. Most of the commentary admitted that it was a solid job even if they were casting it in the light that Kavanaugh's counter arguments were partisan - a point that I found humorous because it wasn't Kavanaugh's choice that all the Democrats are lined up against him and some called him dangerous and/or evil. A group of people got together to destroy his reputation and life, and the media is disappointed that he is counter-attacking those people as a group.

What group of people would that be? A group of women he assaulted?