Georgetown Prep is taking a beating with this Kanvanugh scandal...does it deserve it?

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Anonymous wrote:Live in Bethesda with neighbor whose kid went to Holton Arms. Two years ago she told me that she tried to prevent her daughter from socializing with boys from Georgetown Prep and Landon. Said she was worried about parties and drinking culture at the schools.

Only thing else I know about Georgetown Prep is that I had a neighbor who from moved from Virginia to a couple blocks away to send his two boys there for high school and then sold their house and moved back to Virginia when their younger boy went to college. They were the only people in our area with Romney 2012 signs and they were bigger than the normal yard signs.

It's annectdata, but putting it out there for anyone interested.

Romney, by all accounts, is a highly honorable and impeccably behaved man, so what is your point?

I grew up in a private school world similar to DC's and people harping about this school or that school are missing the point. [b]These kinds of juvenile teen male behavior fueled by alcohol happens everywhere, at every school, public or private, rich or poor. Singling out Georgetown Prep is really missing the point. The boys at Sidwell and GDS are no better behaved.

Sidwell and GDS haven't had scandals like

Landon boys setting up a "draft" for girls https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/opinion/09dowd.html

Eight Landon boys cheating on the SAT together https://www.washingtonian.com/2003/10/01/from-the-archives-our-sons-have-something-to-say/

Prep boys expelled for hazing then having the entitlement to sue the school https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1991/01/15/dismissal-upheld-in-prep-school-hazing-incident/524fa325-7171-41b4-8edc-1d5fa8706d9f/?utm_term=.08f60248349a

Sidwell and GDS didn't produce 5/46 of student-athletes on a team that was accused of raping a woman. Sidwell and GDS haven't produced an alumnus like George Huguely.

Do you also blame and shun UVA for George Huguely's behavior? How about Mater Dei? C'mon.

THE DUKE CASE WAS A FALSE ACCUSATION.

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Anonymous wrote:Live in Bethesda with neighbor whose kid went to Holton Arms. Two years ago she told me that she tried to prevent her daughter from socializing with boys from Georgetown Prep and Landon. Said she was worried about parties and drinking culture at the schools.

Only thing else I know about Georgetown Prep is that I had a neighbor who from moved from Virginia to a couple blocks away to send his two boys there for high school and then sold their house and moved back to Virginia when their younger boy went to college. They were the only people in our area with Romney 2012 signs and they were bigger than the normal yard signs.

It's annectdata, but putting it out there for anyone interested.

Romney, by all accounts, is a highly honorable and impeccably behaved man, so what is your point?

I grew up in a private school world similar to DC's and people harping about this school or that school are missing the point. [b]These kinds of juvenile teen male behavior fueled by alcohol happens everywhere, at every school, public or private, rich or poor. Singling out Georgetown Prep is really missing the point. The boys at Sidwell and GDS are no better behaved.

Sidwell and GDS haven't had scandals like

Landon boys setting up a "draft" for girls https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/opinion/09dowd.html

Eight Landon boys cheating on the SAT together https://www.washingtonian.com/2003/10/01/from-the-archives-our-sons-have-something-to-say/

Prep boys expelled for hazing then having the entitlement to sue the school https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1991/01/15/dismissal-upheld-in-prep-school-hazing-incident/524fa325-7171-41b4-8edc-1d5fa8706d9f/?utm_term=.08f60248349a

Sidwell and GDS didn't produce 5/46 of student-athletes on a team that was accused of raping a woman. Sidwell and GDS haven't produced an alumnus like George Huguely.

Yes, but: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/dc-police-investigating-report-of-rape-at-sidwell-friends-school/2016/03/17/9b524470-ec93-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html?utm_term=.b65ba1a0bc3d

The Sidwell boosters will ignore this recent fact. And the Duke incident, with Landon alums, was shown to be false. The poster above fails to note they were at college and not high school. The Sidwell incident was during school on campus. All this shows bad things happen and any school can be associated with them.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but I have met a lot of nice boys from Prep. Georgetown Prep does not deserve a bad rap. Like I said in another thread, Holton-Arms where my daughter attends school should not judge Kavanaugh adn the school should not take an opinion. Susanna Jones sounds like she is a me too mommy, however, should realize everyone does not not have her views.

Holton did not judge the situation one way or another. The school merely lauded Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up. In a note to parent's the school recognized that there was a wide variety of opinion on this matter within the school community. The alumni letter was not the school's doing. It was started by members of the class of 2005. I think Susanna Jones handled the situation very well.

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I laugh when I see the national media refer to Prep as an "elite private school." If they're referring to academics, it's far from elite. Even calling it second-tier is something that you'd only hear from boosters.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but I have met a lot of nice boys from Prep. Georgetown Prep does not deserve a bad rap. Like I said in another thread, Holton-Arms where my daughter attends school should not judge Kavanaugh adn the school should not take an opinion. Susanna Jones sounds like she is a me too mommy, however, should realize everyone does not not have her views.

Holton did not judge the situation one way or another. The school merely lauded Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up. In a note to parent's the school recognized that there was a wide variety of opinion on this matter within the school community. The alumni letter was not the school's doing. It was started by members of the class of 2005. I think Susanna Jones handled the situation very well.

Why should the school "laud Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up?" When they have no idea whether she is telling the truth or not? What has this world come to when an accusation is automatically treated as fact?

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I think Holton is going to come out looking worse.

Why?

Because they leapt forth to proclaim the accuser- their alum- as a hero, without bothering to check the facts first

I don't think they have proclaimed her a hero. They have supported her in speaking out.

My Holton girls attended a assembly about this and it was focused on standing up for yourself.

I thoroughly support Holtons response.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I think Holton is going to come out looking worse.

Why?

Because they leapt forth to proclaim the accuser- their alum- as a hero, without bothering to check the facts first

I don't think they have proclaimed her a hero. They have supported her in speaking out.

My Holton girls attended a assembly about this and it was focused on standing up for yourself.

I thoroughly support Holtons response.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but I have met a lot of nice boys from Prep. Georgetown Prep does not deserve a bad rap. Like I said in another thread, Holton-Arms where my daughter attends school should not judge Kavanaugh adn the school should not take an opinion. Susanna Jones sounds like she is a me too mommy, however, should realize everyone does not not have her views.

Holton did not judge the situation one way or another. The school merely lauded Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up. In a note to parent's the school recognized that there was a wide variety of opinion on this matter within the school community. The alumni letter was not the school's doing. It was started by members of the class of 2005. I think Susanna Jones handled the situation very well.

Why should the school "laud Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up?" When they have no idea whether she is telling the truth or not? What has this world come to when an accusation is automatically treated as fact?

Honoring someone for speaking up does not necessarily mean that you are accepting what they say is true. It means that you appreciate that potentially relevant information is being shared. And, the Holton statement says nothing about Dr. Ford identifying herself and the impact of that revelation. Dr. Ford stood up long before she revealed her identity.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but I have met a lot of nice boys from Prep. Georgetown Prep does not deserve a bad rap. Like I said in another thread, Holton-Arms where my daughter attends school should not judge Kavanaugh adn the school should not take an opinion. Susanna Jones sounds like she is a me too mommy, however, should realize everyone does not not have her views.

Holton did not judge the situation one way or another. The school merely lauded Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up. In a note to parent's the school recognized that there was a wide variety of opinion on this matter within the school community. The alumni letter was not the school's doing. It was started by members of the class of 2005. I think Susanna Jones handled the situation very well.

Why should the school "laud Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up?" When they have no idea whether she is telling the truth or not? What has this world come to when an accusation is automatically treated as fact?

and we have no idea if Kanvanugh is telling the truth. Why is denial automatically treated as fact?

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Anonymous wrote:My husband went there and now our son goes there. DH said the culture has changed dramatically. Kavanaugh went there 36 years ago for gods sake.

This is not true. My friend's son graduated from Prep recently and she was appalled by what went on there. The stuff those boys got away with. Maybe they just have a better way of hiding it now.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but I have met a lot of nice boys from Prep. Georgetown Prep does not deserve a bad rap. Like I said in another thread, Holton-Arms where my daughter attends school should not judge Kavanaugh adn the school should not take an opinion. Susanna Jones sounds like she is a me too mommy, however, should realize everyone does not not have her views.

YOU ARE CORRECT THAT PREP DOES NOT DESERVE A BAD RAP - AND NEITHER DOES HOLTON OR SUSANNA JONES. Not sure who you are, but I have kids at both schools. There are not a lot of us. Susanna Jones has a son, no daughters, and was very smart and very brave to issue the statement on Sunday. She did not judge Brett Kavanaugh and said she supports Dr. Ford for speaking up about an "alleged sexual assault." This was very carefully crafted in her statement, which has mobilized the community to speak up and support one of their own who is being discredited and dismissed.

GEORGETOWN PREP NEEDS TO SPEAK UP too and also condemn violence against women. The silence is embarrassing to the Prep community and makes the boys look terrible - like they don't care about sexual assault. It is a totally different school today than it was 30+ years ago. There is no way that they could survive the curriculum today if they were partying like they were in the 1980s when the drinking age was 18. There are a few outspoken kids who "STAND WITH BRETT KAVANAUGH" but most of the students are embarrassed and very scared of all the negative attention. Prep has turned into an international academic powerhouse and many of its big donors have nothing to do with the Brett Kavanaugh types. If they continue to stay silent, they will quietly lose supporters and credibility.

Yes, the silence from Prep is deafening.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am not Catholic but I have met a lot of nice boys from Prep. Georgetown Prep does not deserve a bad rap. Like I said in another thread, Holton-Arms where my daughter attends school should not judge Kavanaugh adn the school should not take an opinion. Susanna Jones sounds like she is a me too mommy, however, should realize everyone does not not have her views.

Holton did not judge the situation one way or another. The school merely lauded Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up. In a note to parent's the school recognized that there was a wide variety of opinion on this matter within the school community. The alumni letter was not the school's doing. It was started by members of the class of 2005. I think Susanna Jones handled the situation very well.

Why should the school "laud Dr. Ford's bravery for standing up?" When they have no idea whether she is telling the truth or not? What has this world come to when an accusation is automatically treated as fact?

Honoring someone for speaking up does not necessarily mean that you are accepting what they say is true. It means that you appreciate that potentially relevant information is being shared. And, the Holton statement says nothing about Dr. Ford identifying herself and the impact of that revelation. Dr. Ford stood up long before she revealed her identity.

Actually, I don't understand this. For the sake of argument, if what someone is saying isn't true then it is not potentially relevant and why would you honor someone for speaking up about a lie?

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Anonymous wrote:As a new Prep parent, I am saddened by all the negative comments and blanket statements about the school and students that imply that every single boy who attends is somehow a rapist, a criminal, an elitist, a snob, entitled, a drunk, etc. These are incredibly hard working, decent young men who are being dragged into a political sh**show not of their own doing. It is a complete distraction for them (just waiting for the news crews to be parked outside of campus any second now) and it is completely unfair that people are saying such horrible things about them. They had nothing to do with an incident that (may or may not have) happened 30+ years ago.

The Prep culture is not much different today. They just do a better job of keeping a lid on it today.

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OP don’t send your son there. Opens another space for someone else.

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I went to a co-ed school in another state and graduated the same year as Kavanaugh. This same behavior was rampant in my school and in my city. Drinking age was only 18 and licenses were paper so easy to get one to use.

So while these actions should be condemned, there are not unique to Prep. at all. What is different is that Prep. is perceived as wealthy and mostly white, so people like to dump on it. My school was not wealthy and was fairly diverse and the behavior was just as bad if not worse.