MCPs county wide boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Nope, look again. Woodlin ES zone is adjacent to B-CC, and feeds to Einstein. The B-CC/Einstein boundary cuts right through the Summit Hills apartments. Blair is further east, on the other side of Colesville. I think if any ES in the area is rezoned, it could be Woodlin, since it's not particularly near Sligo or Einstein.

Sorry but you're mistaken. The map shows they're clearly adjacent. Some students in Eastern Chevy Chase and West Silver Spring) go to B-CC while their neighbors go to Blair.

Nope, pp is correct there is a small area at top of the DC diamond that is zoned for Woodlin/Sligo/Blair. The maps you posted do not abut each other. Your better off using the mcps map that shows HS areas.

*Woodlin/Sligo/Einstein

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Yes, Blair and B-CC zones are adjacent and border DC to the south. You can just think of Silver Spring as East Chevy Chase if that makes it easier for you to palette.

It makes perfect sense given the close proximity of Blair to B-CC and that B-CC will have so much extra capacity once the kids along its northern boundary are rezoned to Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Silver Creek -> Woodward. Problem solved.

As a silver creek parent, I love it! Anything is a step up for BCC!

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Yes, Blair and B-CC zones are adjacent and border DC to the south. You can just think of Silver Spring as East Chevy Chase if that makes it easier for you to palette.

It makes perfect sense given the close proximity of Blair to B-CC and that B-CC will have so much extra capacity once the kids along its northern boundary are rezoned to Woodward.

But for all the reasons discussed on the previous pages and in other threads around Woodward, that is not going to happen. Who is this DCUM who keeps insisting that MCPS is going to break up BCC - which already serves a diverse student body - to absorb students currently zoned for Blair?

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But for all the reasons discussed on the previous pages and in other threads around Woodward, that is not going to happen. Who is this DCUM who keeps insisting that MCPS is going to break up BCC - which already serves a diverse student body - to absorb students currently zoned for Blair?

I am wondering about that too. There's no evidence that MCPS has any such intention, and plenty of evidence that MCPS does not. Yet they keep showing up insisting that it will happen, on the basis of their belief that it ought to happen.

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

NP. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable geographically to have Westbard go to Westland. Even the rest of Wood Acres could go to Westland and it wouldn't be illogical. But it makes no sense for people zoned for Wood Acres to go to BCC over Whitman since Whitman is much is closer. The northern parts zoned for Wood Acres can easily walk to Whitman.

Not even on this thread, where people are postulating all sorts of ridiculous scenarios, did anyone suggest rezoning Wood Acres for BCC. Just altering the Westbrook/Wood Acres boundary a little to include the new residences (and I suppose the existing apartments) in the Westbrook boundary.

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

NP. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable geographically to have Westbard go to Westland. Even the rest of Wood Acres could go to Westland and it wouldn't be illogical. But it makes no sense for people zoned for Wood Acres to go to BCC over Whitman since Whitman is much is closer. The northern parts zoned for Wood Acres can easily walk to Whitman.

Not even on this thread, where people are postulating all sorts of ridiculous scenarios, did anyone suggest rezoning Wood Acres for BCC. Just altering the Westbrook/Wood Acres boundary a little to include the new residences (and I suppose the existing apartments) in the Westbrook boundary.

Wood Acres is nowhere near BCC. Honestly, neither is Westbrook. Both should go to Whitman, and on Whitman ES will go to Woodward. Problem solved.

NCC and NCC are literally a mile from BCC and will never be rezonef away from BCC (what do you think the CC in BCC stands for??).

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Anonymous wrote:Silver Creek seems as close to Woodward as it is B-CC. May simply need to split the students for the greater good.

Possible but it’s in the extreme northern border. Most Silver Creek students could walk to BCC and are many miles from Woodward.

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

NP. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable geographically to have Westbard go to Westland. Even the rest of Wood Acres could go to Westland and it wouldn't be illogical. But it makes no sense for people zoned for Wood Acres to go to BCC over Whitman since Whitman is much is closer. The northern parts zoned for Wood Acres can easily walk to Whitman.

Not even on this thread, where people are postulating all sorts of ridiculous scenarios, did anyone suggest rezoning Wood Acres for BCC. Just altering the Westbrook/Wood Acres boundary a little to include the new residences (and I suppose the existing apartments) in the Westbrook boundary.

Wood Acres is nowhere near BCC. Honestly, neither is Westbrook. Both should go to Whitman, and on Whitman ES will go to Woodward. Problem solved.

NCC and NCC are literally a mile from BCC and will never be rezonef away from BCC (what do you think the CC in BCC stands for??).

What cramped thinking. You're talking about redistricting whole schools. That is a radical change, which will be very difficult for anyone to push through. It's far easier to nibble around the boundaries. You're also deluded if you think the BOE is looking to add a whole new school to Pyle, while taking away from Westland, which has capacity after the completion of Silver Creek.

You seem to believe typing "problem solved" at the end of your posts gives them extra validity. It doesn't - if I look back at all those posts, they are simplistic, siloed solutions to complex issues. Please go away and allow the adults to continue this discussion.

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

NP. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable geographically to have Westbard go to Westland. Even the rest of Wood Acres could go to Westland and it wouldn't be illogical. But it makes no sense for people zoned for Wood Acres to go to BCC over Whitman since Whitman is much is closer. The northern parts zoned for Wood Acres can easily walk to Whitman.

Not even on this thread, where people are postulating all sorts of ridiculous scenarios, did anyone suggest rezoning Wood Acres for BCC. Just altering the Westbrook/Wood Acres boundary a little to include the new residences (and I suppose the existing apartments) in the Westbrook boundary.

Wood Acres is nowhere near BCC. Honestly, neither is Westbrook. Both should go to Whitman, and on Whitman ES will go to Woodward. Problem solved.

NCC and NCC are literally a mile from BCC and will never be rezonef away from BCC (what do you think the CC in BCC stands for??).

What cramped thinking. You're talking about redistricting whole schools. That is a radical change, which will be very difficult for anyone to push through. It's far easier to nibble around the boundaries. You're also deluded if you think the BOE is looking to add a whole new school to Pyle, while taking away from Westland, which has capacity after the completion of Silver Creek.

You seem to believe typing "problem solved" at the end of your posts gives them extra validity. It doesn't - if I look back at all those posts, they are simplistic, siloed solutions to complex issues. Please go away and allow the adults to continue this discussion.

Rezoning is fine especially if it alleviates overcrowding or reduces bussing costs.

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

NP. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable geographically to have Westbard go to Westland. Even the rest of Wood Acres could go to Westland and it wouldn't be illogical. But it makes no sense for people zoned for Wood Acres to go to BCC over Whitman since Whitman is much is closer. The northern parts zoned for Wood Acres can easily walk to Whitman.

Not even on this thread, where people are postulating all sorts of ridiculous scenarios, did anyone suggest rezoning Wood Acres for BCC. Just altering the Westbrook/Wood Acres boundary a little to include the new residences (and I suppose the existing apartments) in the Westbrook boundary.

Wood Acres is nowhere near BCC. Honestly, neither is Westbrook. Both should go to Whitman, and on Whitman ES will go to Woodward. Problem solved.

NCC and NCC are literally a mile from BCC and will never be rezonef away from BCC (what do you think the CC in BCC stands for??).

What cramped thinking. You're talking about redistricting whole schools. That is a radical change, which will be very difficult for anyone to push through. It's far easier to nibble around the boundaries. You're also deluded if you think the BOE is looking to add a whole new school to Pyle, while taking away from Westland, which has capacity after the completion of Silver Creek.

You seem to believe typing "problem solved" at the end of your posts gives them extra validity. It doesn't - if I look back at all those posts, they are simplistic, siloed solutions to complex issues. Please go away and allow the adults to continue this discussion.

Rezoning is fine especially if it alleviates overcrowding or reduces bussing costs.

Rezoning one school can help reduce overcrowding at a nearby with minimal impact on bussing.

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B-CC itself doesn't have serious overcrowding after the expansion but does seem to be at the nexus of many schools that either are or have the capacity so will probably be part of any solution. Nevertheless, I wouldn't get worked up over it.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC itself doesn't have serious overcrowding after the expansion but does seem to be at the nexus of many schools that either are or have the capacity so will probably be part of any solution. Nevertheless, I wouldn't get worked up over it.

By the time Woodward opens, B-CC is projected to be overcapacity again. But, as has been already stated, B-CC's chapter in the CIP makes no mention of Woodward.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC itself doesn't have serious overcrowding after the expansion but does seem to be at the nexus of many schools that either are or have the capacity so will probably be part of any solution. Nevertheless, I wouldn't get worked up over it.

By the time Woodward opens, B-CC is projected to be overcapacity again. But, as has been already stated, B-CC's chapter in the CIP makes no mention of Woodward.

Would you mention this? Seriously just the rumor of minor changes to a school's bounary makes parents go bananas.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC itself doesn't have serious overcrowding after the expansion but does seem to be at the nexus of many schools that either are or have the capacity so will probably be part of any solution. Nevertheless, I wouldn't get worked up over it.

By the time Woodward opens, B-CC is projected to be overcapacity again. But, as has been already stated, B-CC's chapter in the CIP makes no mention of Woodward.

Would you mention this? Seriously just the rumor of minor changes to a school's bounary makes parents go bananas.

True. But the point is Woodward *is* mentioned in the WJ and DCC chapters.