MCPs county wide boundary study

[Anonymous]

Also, please stop using the term "URM". You're talking about black and Latino students. It's ok to say those words.

Lets not assume that all black and latino students are lower income. There are a good number of wealthy, highly educated black and latino families in the private schools, W schools and PG county. The correlation with low test scores is poverty not race.

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Also, please stop using the term "URM". You're talking about black and Latino students. It's ok to say those words.

Lets not assume that all black and latino students are lower income. There are a good number of wealthy, highly educated black and latino families in the private schools, W schools and PG county. The correlation with low test scores is poverty not race.

PP you're responding to, and yes, that was my point. The research is about low-income students. Not all black and Latino students are low-income. Not all low-income students are black and Latino.

But when people talk about "URMs", they're not talking about low-income students, they're talking about black and Latino students. Low-income students are not an under-represented minority.

[Anonymous]

Problem with redistricting is all the east county parents have no where to go but up. Of course they are in favor of off loading there URM students and raising their local schools status and then their property values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Problem with redistricting is all the east county parents have no where to go but up. Of course they are in favor of off loading there URM students and raising their local schools status and then their property values.

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I guess that black and Latino kids in the east county don't have parents?

[Anonymous]

I guess you haven't seen the boundary maps for any of the DCC schools.

If they could minimize bussing by better managing their resources, transportation costs would go down which means more funds for education.

The reality that many parents don't want to face is these schools are about the same in terms of the education any child would get at any of them. This is evident to anyone who looks beyond simple GS averages.

You are likely the only person in the DCC who believes this.

I don't get the impression that the W cluster has the same internal pecking order issues but which school you are zoned into within the DCC is a huge deal.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

[Anonymous]

I literally don't care what high school my kids attend so long as the bus that picks them up arrives no earlier than 7am.

After living in MoCo for 18years and having kids in mcps for 12 years, I'm of the opinion that mcps has no 'bad' schools, and all of the high schools have interesting things/programs going on and great students. The only high schools I haven't visited/don't know any teachers or students are Poolesville and Magruder. But I'm sure those two schools are fine too.

If you bought in an area with good transportation options, housing values won't drop too much and will recover quickly.

Frederick public schools aren't good, Howard co. Schools regularly redistrict., NOVA plus its traffic is hell on earth.

Chill out and enjoy the last week of summer vacation!

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

[Anonymous]

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I guess you haven't seen the boundary maps for any of the DCC schools.

If they could minimize bussing by better managing their resources, transportation costs would go down which means more funds for education.

The reality that many parents don't want to face is these schools are about the same in terms of the education any child would get at any of them. This is evident to anyone who looks beyond simple GS averages.

You are likely the only person in the DCC who believes this.

I don't get the impression that the W cluster has the same internal pecking order issues but which school you are zoned into within the DCC is a huge deal.

You're kidding, right? This board has hosted many a battle over whether B-CC counts, whether WJ counts, whether Whitman's just a bunch of rich a-holes or Wootton a bunch of boring grinds with no imagination.

There's absolutely an internal pecking order.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

[Anonymous]

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I guess you haven't seen the boundary maps for any of the DCC schools.

If they could minimize bussing by better managing their resources, transportation costs would go down which means more funds for education.

The reality that many parents don't want to face is these schools are about the same in terms of the education any child would get at any of them. This is evident to anyone who looks beyond simple GS averages.

You are likely the only person in the DCC who believes this.

I don't get the impression that the W cluster has the same internal pecking order issues but which school you are zoned into within the DCC is a huge deal.

You're kidding, right? This board has hosted many a battle over whether B-CC counts, whether WJ counts, whether Whitman's just a bunch of rich a-holes or Wootton a bunch of boring grinds with no imagination.

There's absolutely an internal pecking order.

What you describe is mostly stereotypes, not a pecking order. Which is better rich a-holes or boring grinds, to use your descriptions?

[Anonymous]

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

That would hardly be an easy fix. B-CC's new middle school is right in the northern end of their service area, which would complicate any boundary changes in that neighborhood. Also, why would this be a fix for Blair when the western parts of the DCC which border B-CC are actually zoned for Einstein?

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One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

That would hardly be an easy fix. B-CC's new middle school is right in the northern end of their service area, which would complicate any boundary changes in that neighborhood. Also, why would this be a fix for Blair when the western parts of the DCC which border B-CC are actually zoned for Einstein?

I don't think that there are any easy fixes.