MCPs county wide boundary study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Yes. Frankly, I expect the plan for BCC is to move some students out (although which students is problematic) and then redistrict the proposed Westbard development, when it eventually is built, for Westbrook and Westland, eventually feeding to BCC, rather than Wood Acres, Pyle and Whitman.

The plan for BCC is to build the addition.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/MP19_Chap4_BCC.pdf

Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Silver Creek -> Woodward. Problem solved.

This is simply not an option after the recent battle for which students attend the school.... Otherwise, I would agree with you. If the parents of Silver creek magically get together and offer the moved themselves then maybe...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Yes. Frankly, I expect the plan for BCC is to move some students out (although which students is problematic) and then redistrict the proposed Westbard development, when it eventually is built, for Westbrook and Westland, eventually feeding to BCC, rather than Wood Acres, Pyle and Whitman.

The plan for BCC is to build the addition.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/MP19_Chap4_BCC.pdf

BCC will continue to need 2 feeder middle schools. So you could surely put some more kids in Westbrook and Westland, but you can't put 2200 kids at Westland, which is why they built Silver Creek. Which is why Silver Creek will continue to feed to BCC. (In theory you could swap the entire Silver Creek catchment for TPMS or SSIMS, but then you've got all the elementaries to sort out in a catchment that already has split articulation.) Which is why they won't be able to put 500-1000 kids from Montgomery Blair in BCC. Which is why Woodward will be filled by the overcapacity populations from Walter Johnson PLUS some redistricting from multiple DCC schools. How MCPS factors that into the overall DCC scheme, I won't predict. But the rest of this scenario is fairly obvious.

Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Yes, Blair and B-CC zones are adjacent and border DC to the south. You can just think of Silver Spring as East Chevy Chase if that makes it easier for you to palette.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Yes. Frankly, I expect the plan for BCC is to move some students out (although which students is problematic) and then redistrict the proposed Westbard development, when it eventually is built, for Westbrook and Westland, eventually feeding to BCC, rather than Wood Acres, Pyle and Whitman.

The plan for BCC is to build the addition.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/MP19_Chap4_BCC.pdf

BCC will continue to need 2 feeder middle schools. So you could surely put some more kids in Westbrook and Westland, but you can't put 2200 kids at Westland, which is why they built Silver Creek. Which is why Silver Creek will continue to feed to BCC. (In theory you could swap the entire Silver Creek catchment for TPMS or SSIMS, but then you've got all the elementaries to sort out in a catchment that already has split articulation.) Which is why they won't be able to put 500-1000 kids from Montgomery Blair in BCC. Which is why Woodward will be filled by the overcapacity populations from Walter Johnson PLUS some redistricting from multiple DCC schools. How MCPS factors that into the overall DCC scheme, I won't predict. But the rest of this scenario is fairly obvious.

Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

Agreed. I'm not the one who suggested that Silver Creek be split from BCC - that was some other (deluded) poster. I'm simply pointing out to that poster that moving kids into BCC is not as east as s/he appears to believe it is, because there are considerations on the west side of the catchment area as well as the east side.

Of course, given the loons pushing "Save Westbard," I have no doubt that my middle schooler will have graduated from BCC (and likely college) before any of those considerations really come into play.

[Anonymous]

Silver Creek seems as close to Woodward as it is B-CC. May simply need to split the students for the greater good.

[Anonymous]

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Nope, look again. Woodlin ES zone is adjacent to B-CC, and feeds to Einstein. The B-CC/Einstein boundary cuts right through the Summit Hills apartments. Blair is further east, on the other side of Colesville. I think if any ES in the area is rezoned, it could be Woodlin, since it's not particularly near Sligo or Einstein.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Nope, look again. Woodlin ES zone is adjacent to B-CC, and feeds to Einstein. The B-CC/Einstein boundary cuts right through the Summit Hills apartments. Blair is further east, on the other side of Colesville. I think if any ES in the area is rezoned, it could be Woodlin, since it's not particularly near Sligo or Einstein.

Sorry but you're mistaken. The map shows they're clearly adjacent. Some students in Eastern Chevy Chase and West Silver Spring) go to B-CC while their neighbors go to Blair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Nope, look again. Woodlin ES zone is adjacent to B-CC, and feeds to Einstein. The B-CC/Einstein boundary cuts right through the Summit Hills apartments. Blair is further east, on the other side of Colesville. I think if any ES in the area is rezoned, it could be Woodlin, since it's not particularly near Sligo or Einstein.

Sorry but you're mistaken. The map shows they're clearly adjacent. Some students in Eastern Chevy Chase and West Silver Spring) go to B-CC while their neighbors go to Blair.

Nope, pp is correct there is a small area at top of the DC diamond that is zoned for Woodlin/Sligo/Blair. The maps you posted do not abut each other. Your better off using the mcps map that shows HS areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

Except B-CC's zone doesn't border Blair's, it borders Einstein's. And no one borders Woodward because it has no borders yet.

That's funny because the county's maps for these schools show that their boundaries are adjacent in western Silver Spring.

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,montgomery%20blair%20high,z,20901,t,pb,i,1053086.cfm

https://maryland.hometownlocator.com/schools/profiles,n,bethesda-chevy%20chase%20high,z,20814,t,pb,i,1052763.cfm

Nope, look again. Woodlin ES zone is adjacent to B-CC, and feeds to Einstein. The B-CC/Einstein boundary cuts right through the Summit Hills apartments. Blair is further east, on the other side of Colesville. I think if any ES in the area is rezoned, it could be Woodlin, since it's not particularly near Sligo or Einstein.

Sorry but you're mistaken. The map shows they're clearly adjacent. Some students in Eastern Chevy Chase and West Silver Spring) go to B-CC while their neighbors go to Blair.

FTLOG. Here is a zoomed in map. You can clearly see Woodlin/Einstein in the middle. B-CC to the immediate west. Blair is on the southeast side of Colesville. This is the official MCPS service area map.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/ServiceAreaMaps/WoodlinES.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Of course. That relieves current overcrowding and ups capacity. But they still need a plan to deal with Westbard, and Wood Acres and Pyle are packed, while Westbrook and Westland have capacity.

The additional housing in the Westbard Plan area is entirely in the Whitman cluster.

Sigh. Yes, it is. For now. But if you'd read the earlier posts, you'd see that I pointed out that Wood Acres and Pyle are overcrowded, and Westbrook and Westland have capacity. Moreover, the new residences will be closer to Westland than all but a couple of the houses in Westland's current catchment area. Look at a map, and see how easy it would be to extend the Westbrook (and hence Westland) catchment areas to include Westbard.

Also, don't you feel a little silly posting "but those residences will be in the Whitman cluster" in a thread entitled, and dedicated to the discussion of, altering school boundaries? The entire point of this discussion is the potential *change* of current boundaries. Sheesh.

NP. It certainly wouldn't be unreasonable geographically to have Westbard go to Westland. Even the rest of Wood Acres could go to Westland and it wouldn't be illogical. But it makes no sense for people zoned for Wood Acres to go to BCC over Whitman since Whitman is much is closer. The northern parts zoned for Wood Acres can easily walk to Whitman.