MCPs county wide boundary study

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

Western silver spring already ships kids to BCC to help with diversity.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

Western silver spring already ships kids to BCC to help with diversity.

Then greatly expand on it. Blair needs to offload 500+ students and Woodward could easily provide that to people on B-CC’s northern boundary.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

It’s a terrible idea. Sure, kids in that area are more or less the same distance from either school but it would be traumatic to expose poor people to Bethesda’s wealth and elite lifestyle.

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

Western silver spring already ships kids to BCC to help with diversity.

Then greatly expand on it. Blair needs to offload 500+ students and Woodward could easily provide that to people on B-CC’s northern boundary.

Again, "easily" is not an adverb to use here. Northwood is 10 blocks from Blair and is getting a huge addition. It would make more sense to redraw the Northwood/Blair boundaries.

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Western silver spring already ships kids to BCC to help with diversity.

Could people please stop talking about "shipping" kids? Kids are people, not packages.

(Also, these days, "shipping kids" means something else, at least to the kids themselves.)

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I made sure to buy in the middle of the best clusters so that if they changed boundaries, it wouldn’t impact us. I am all for regular tweaking of boundaries anyway, since that’s what’s best for the county demographically.

There are zero guarantees. You could live a stone's throw from the HS and still be rezoned.

Exactly, which is why we live where the surrounding high schools are ALL good. I was clear enough in my first post.

So you're in favor of boundary changes, as long as they don't affect you? That's nice, I guess.

I would lmao if that person got rezoned to a "lower" performing school, or they shipped in tons of undesirables into their cluster - either could actually happen.

Don't be dense, I’m neither for nor against boundary changes, I just bought where these changes wouldn’t affect me. You should know by now that mcps will never bus general ed kids long distance anymore, because the single most expensive budget item is already transportation. Bussing longer distance would kill the budget, which is hanging by a thread as it is.

The only thing they WILL do, is rework boundary edges to accomodate new schools, including Woodward. It’s the perfect opportunity to include other changes they wanted to make but were afraid to do.

Stop looking for a fight. The era of geographic redistribution is long gone.

completely agree but am also aware DCC boundary maps and a couple others are often anything but optimal For example, people who literally live across the street from one high-school are bussed to another.

That's true and unfortunate. But it's the side effect of Blair moving to Four Corners and then Northwood reopening only 10 blocks away. With no high schools in inside-the-Beltway SS or TP, the boundaries just aren't going to be optimal.

Yes, I've looked at the clusters many times and there is really no simple way to draw the boundaries particularly for the DCC schools. If we could place the schools in the middle of the cluster in an ideal world that would be perfect. Not mention being adjacent to the weird diamond shaped DC compounds the problem.

One easy fix for Blair is western Silver Spring is just as close to B-CC. Ship them to B-CC to alleviate overcrowding and offload the added capacity to Woodward on B-CC's northern boundary. Seriously, B-CC is the most downcounty of all high-schools being inside the beltway. May as well draw from the DCC!

Western silver spring already ships kids to BCC to help with diversity.

Then greatly expand on it. Blair needs to offload 500+ students and Woodward could easily provide that to people on B-CC’s northern boundary.

Again, "easily" is not an adverb to use here. Northwood is 10 blocks from Blair and is getting a huge addition. It would make more sense to redraw the Northwood/Blair boundaries.

Most of the seats from the Northwood expansion go to solve overcrowding at Northwood and although Blaeir is near Northwood much of Blair’s boundary is just as close to B-CC as Blair.

[Anonymous]

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Western silver spring already ships kids to BCC to help with diversity.

Could people please stop talking about "shipping" kids? Kids are people, not packages.

(Also, these days, "shipping kids" means something else, at least to the kids themselves.)

shipping is hardly appropriate way to describe a 10 to 15 minute bus ride.

[Anonymous]

There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

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Blair needs a new location, preferably in Takoma Park. All the DCC schools are so jammed together.

Sending Blair kids to BCC is not an easy fix. First its downtown location and small footpring complicates things. Also, it does nothing to address "diversity" in the other W schools.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

The problem is B-CC's borders both Woodward and Blair. One school has the capacity the other lacks it. It's hard to imagine this isn't a serious option, but we're not zoned for either school. Nevertheless, they seem pretty comparable, but I'd give the edge to Blair mostly because of the better overall college admissions and more in-depth coursework. Only problem is Blair will be close to 1000 over capacity by the time Woodward opens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blair needs a new location, preferably in Takoma Park. All the DCC schools are so jammed together.

Sending Blair kids to BCC is not an easy fix. First its downtown location and small footpring complicates things. Also, it does nothing to address "diversity" in the other W schools.

I'd agree with you, but suspect there's no large tract of land available or within the county's budget.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Silver Creek -> Woodward. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Yes. Frankly, I expect the plan for BCC is to move some students out (although which students is problematic) and then redistrict the proposed Westbard development, when it eventually is built, for Westbrook and Westland, eventually feeding to BCC, rather than Wood Acres, Pyle and Whitman.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Silver Creek -> Woodward. Problem solved.

New problem created: Silver Creek parents tearing up the cobblestones for barricades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYNfQlf1H8

For something to happen, it has to be actually feasible. Otherwise it's just an idea, like a Star Trek transporter or a magic wand that you can wave and your kids wash the dishes without being asked.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a poster on all these Woodward threads who is constantly insisting on redrawing the BCC boundaries to incorporate more of Silver Spring. Wonder where that poster lives?

They're not going to redistrict the northern part of the BCC catchment because that's where they just put the new BCC MS (Silver Creek) after an ugly debate about elementary assignments.

Yes. Frankly, I expect the plan for BCC is to move some students out (although which students is problematic) and then redistrict the proposed Westbard development, when it eventually is built, for Westbrook and Westland, eventually feeding to BCC, rather than Wood Acres, Pyle and Whitman.

The plan for BCC is to build the addition.

http://gis.mcpsmd.org/cipmasterpdfs/MP19_Chap4_BCC.pdf