splitting a house - do you split by rooms, or people?

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Anonymous wrote:Single person should obviously pay less. It's per person. Kids = person. Single person shouldn't be punished for not wanting or having kids!

It’s obviously their choice. They can choose to stay home or only vacation with other adults. It matters not to me.

Sounds like she’s be better off not vacationing with such a pompous and selfish person anyway. Why should a single person have to pay a premium to put up with your annoying kids?

But they are not paying a premium. A crappy beachfront hotel would cost even more.

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We so per bedroom, with perhaps an upgrade fee if you have the nicest)biggest bedroom You're not paying utilities and water and spearye cleaning fees. If you're taking an entire room, you should pay for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Single person should obviously pay less. It's per person. Kids = person. Single person shouldn't be punished for not wanting or having kids!

It’s obviously their choice. They can choose to stay home or only vacation with other adults. It matters not to me.

Sounds like she’s be better off not vacationing with such a pompous and selfish person anyway. Why should a single person have to pay a premium to put up with your annoying kids?

But they are not paying a premium. A crappy beachfront hotel would cost even more.

Not only would they have a crappy beachfront hotel, they would be sharing the dining rooms, pool, exercise room with all the hundreds of other guests at the hotel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Single person should obviously pay less. It's per person. Kids = person. Single person shouldn't be punished for not wanting or having kids!

It’s obviously their choice. They can choose to stay home or only vacation with other adults. It matters not to me.

Sounds like she’s be better off not vacationing with such a pompous and selfish person anyway. Why should a single person have to pay a premium to put up with your annoying kids?

But they are not paying a premium. A crappy beachfront hotel would cost even more.

Not only would they have a crappy beachfront hotel, they would be sharing the dining rooms, pool, exercise room with all the hundreds of other guests at the hotel.

I... think you think this tradeoff is favorable to singles, but it really isn't. We go on the group trips to be with people, not because it's some kind of deal. Trust me, most of us would gladly pay more for our own space, peace and quiet, more freedom to do whatever, whenever, wherever, without waiting for a bathroom that your kid splashed water all over or asking for a snack every 10 seconds, or waiting for everyone to get their sh!t together because jesus, we were supposed to leave 20 minutes ago Then a half hour ago. Now 45 minutes ago, and now our reservation is lost.

We go with the group because it's the agreeable thing to do, not because it's some kind of awesome price perk.

[Anonymous]

I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

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Anonymous wrote:We so per bedroom, with perhaps an upgrade fee if you have the nicest)biggest bedroom You're not paying utilities and water and spearye cleaning fees. If you're taking an entire room, you should pay for it.

But all use the common rooms, so a couple would use the common rooms twice as much as a single.

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Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Single person should obviously pay less. It's per person. Kids = person. Single person shouldn't be punished for not wanting or having kids!

It’s obviously their choice. They can choose to stay home or only vacation with other adults. It matters not to me.

Sounds like she’s be better off not vacationing with such a pompous and selfish person anyway. Why should a single person have to pay a premium to put up with your annoying kids?

But they are not paying a premium. A crappy beachfront hotel would cost even more.

Not only would they have a crappy beachfront hotel, they would be sharing the dining rooms, pool, exercise room with all the hundreds of other guests at the hotel.

I... think you think this tradeoff is favorable to singles, but it really isn't. We go on the group trips to be with people, not because it's some kind of deal. Trust me, most of us would gladly pay more for our own space, peace and quiet, more freedom to do whatever, whenever, wherever, without waiting for a bathroom that your kid splashed water all over or asking for a snack every 10 seconds, or waiting for everyone to get their sh!t together because jesus, we were supposed to leave 20 minutes ago Then a half hour ago. Now 45 minutes ago, and now our reservation is lost.

We go with the group because it's the agreeable thing to do, not because it's some kind of awesome price perk.

NP. I...think you really believe families want you on this vacation more than they actually do.

Go get your own place nearby, and meet up for a few beach outings and meals. Then they can get a break from your “superior” attitude.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Single person should obviously pay less. It's per person. Kids = person. Single person shouldn't be punished for not wanting or having kids!

It’s obviously their choice. They can choose to stay home or only vacation with other adults. It matters not to me.

Sounds like she’s be better off not vacationing with such a pompous and selfish person anyway. Why should a single person have to pay a premium to put up with your annoying kids?

But they are not paying a premium. A crappy beachfront hotel would cost even more.

Not only would they have a crappy beachfront hotel, they would be sharing the dining rooms, pool, exercise room with all the hundreds of other guests at the hotel.

I... think you think this tradeoff is favorable to singles, but it really isn't. We go on the group trips to be with people, not because it's some kind of deal. Trust me, most of us would gladly pay more for our own space, peace and quiet, more freedom to do whatever, whenever, wherever, without waiting for a bathroom that your kid splashed water all over or asking for a snack every 10 seconds, or waiting for everyone to get their sh!t together because jesus, we were supposed to leave 20 minutes ago Then a half hour ago. Now 45 minutes ago, and now our reservation is lost.

We go with the group because it's the agreeable thing to do, not because it's some kind of awesome price perk.

Yeah, well same goes with the parents of kids. They do group trips like this not because they particularly enjoy cramming their families into small rooms or shushing their children in the mornings to keep the noise level down so that the other adults (you) can sleep in, or policing their children's bathroom usage and keeping the bathroom acceptable for "sharing" with an adult or stressing about making it out the door on time for a reservation at a very kid UNfriendly restaurant that you want to try. They do these group rentals as an opportunity to be with other people.

The perk to the whole thing is that together you all get to spend time together while enjoying an oceanfront house with a game room, pool, hot tub, large living spaces, etc. that you most likely would not be able to afford all on your own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

I can't imagine requiring everyone to self report their incomes in order to adjust rental rates accordingly. How would you feel if you if you found out that a family member was claiming poor mouth but was actually a tightwad stashing their cash away so that they can retire early and travel the world? How would you feel if your own job was security wasn't the best and you knew that you had a real risk of becoming unemployed in the coming months. Eff that BIL for expecting that others pay his way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

It would bother me less if we were being asked to subsidize someone who legitimately couldn’t afford it, but BIL makes north of $200K and lives in a 4500 sq ft house in a relatively low cost area. We do make much more than that and the extra money is easy for us, which is why we pay it without complaint so that the vacation is without conflict, but it privately bothers us that the other members of the family don’t think it’s a problem to expect us to pick up more if the cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

It would bother me less if we were being asked to subsidize someone who legitimately couldn’t afford it, but BIL makes north of $200K and lives in a 4500 sq ft house in a relatively low cost area. We do make much more than that and the extra money is easy for us, which is why we pay it without complaint so that the vacation is without conflict, but it privately bothers us that the other members of the family don’t think it’s a problem to expect us to pick up more if the cost.

Uh, you are being used. Of course, it bothers you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

It would bother me less if we were being asked to subsidize someone who legitimately couldn’t afford it, but BIL makes north of $200K and lives in a 4500 sq ft house in a relatively low cost area. We do make much more than that and the extra money is easy for us, which is why we pay it without complaint so that the vacation is without conflict, but it privately bothers us that the other members of the family don’t think it’s a problem to expect us to pick up more if the cost.

Uh, you are being used. Of course, it bothers you.

The only way I would see this as being fair is if you were insisting on more luxurious accommodations than the rest of the family felt comfortable affording. Ex: you want everyone, teenagers included, to have a private bedroom/bath but the rest of the family thinks it's fine to have some shared bedrooms/baths in order to keep the costs down. If you are the one requiring such an upgraded expense, I could see them saying "Fine. We're willing to go in even on house A with you, if you really must insist on the more expensive house B, then you will need to pick up the difference because that's too much for us. If you then say "No problem, we can afford it!" don't complain about what cheapskates your other family members are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

It would bother me less if we were being asked to subsidize someone who legitimately couldn’t afford it, but BIL makes north of $200K and lives in a 4500 sq ft house in a relatively low cost area. We do make much more than that and the extra money is easy for us, which is why we pay it without complaint so that the vacation is without conflict, but it privately bothers us that the other members of the family don’t think it’s a problem to expect us to pick up more if the cost.

Uh, you are being used. Of course, it bothers you.

The only way I would see this as being fair is if you were insisting on more luxurious accommodations than the rest of the family felt comfortable affording. Ex: you want everyone, teenagers included, to have a private bedroom/bath but the rest of the family thinks it's fine to have some shared bedrooms/baths in order to keep the costs down. If you are the one requiring such an upgraded expense, I could see them saying "Fine. We're willing to go in even on house A with you, if you really must insist on the more expensive house B, then you will need to pick up the difference because that's too much for us. If you then say "No problem, we can afford it!" don't complain about what cheapskates your other family members are.

No. We don’t really care about the accomodations. BIL usually chooses them but he is pretty careful to pick something affordable (at least it feels affordable to us). Because of that, we just pay the extra. It actually is a fun family vacation with all the the cousins, so it’s worth it not to rock the boat. It’s more the principle of the thing that is irksome, but it’s not a hill to die on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think paying per bedroom is usually fine. My family needs two bedrooms, so we would pay more than smaller families. There are no single people in our family.

However, my BIL feels that it should also be linked to income and expects us to pay more because we have a higher income. I don't agree, but we do it anyway for the sake of keeping things happy. Last year, we paid more and then ended up covering the whole cost for my husband's little sister and her fiancé because they just never paid us back after we reminded them a few times. Its fine, we can afford it. But just paying by bedroom sounds heavenly to me.

I am like your BIL (except we are the ones with the higher income), we pay more so that we can all enjoy a nice vacation. We trade off who gets the better bedroom.

It would bother me less if we were being asked to subsidize someone who legitimately couldn’t afford it, but BIL makes north of $200K and lives in a 4500 sq ft house in a relatively low cost area. We do make much more than that and the extra money is easy for us, which is why we pay it without complaint so that the vacation is without conflict, but it privately bothers us that the other members of the family don’t think it’s a problem to expect us to pick up more if the cost.

Uh, you are being used. Of course, it bothers you.

The only way I would see this as being fair is if you were insisting on more luxurious accommodations than the rest of the family felt comfortable affording. Ex: you want everyone, teenagers included, to have a private bedroom/bath but the rest of the family thinks it's fine to have some shared bedrooms/baths in order to keep the costs down. If you are the one requiring such an upgraded expense, I could see them saying "Fine. We're willing to go in even on house A with you, if you really must insist on the more expensive house B, then you will need to pick up the difference because that's too much for us. If you then say "No problem, we can afford it!" don't complain about what cheapskates your other family members are.

No. We don’t really care about the accomodations. BIL usually chooses them but he is pretty careful to pick something affordable (at least it feels affordable to us). Because of that, we just pay the extra. It actually is a fun family vacation with all the the cousins, so it’s worth it not to rock the boat. It’s more the principle of the thing that is irksome, but it’s not a hill to die on.

You are a good and very patient person because I would find his expectations to be super annoying. That would set the tone for me to feel resentful of him during the vacation. No one likes to be used like that.