splitting a house - do you split by rooms, or people?

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Anonymous wrote:Single person should obviously pay less. It's per person. Kids = person. Single person shouldn't be punished for not wanting or having kids!

It’s obviously their choice. They can choose to stay home or only vacation with other adults. It matters not to me.

Sounds like she’s be better off not vacationing with such a pompous and selfish person anyway. Why should a single person have to pay a premium to put up with your annoying kids?

But they are not paying a premium. A crappy beachfront hotel would cost even more.

Not only would they have a crappy beachfront hotel, they would be sharing the dining rooms, pool, exercise room with all the hundreds of other guests at the hotel.

I... think you think this tradeoff is favorable to singles, but it really isn't. We go on the group trips to be with people, not because it's some kind of deal. Trust me, most of us would gladly pay more for our own space, peace and quiet, more freedom to do whatever, whenever, wherever, without waiting for a bathroom that your kid splashed water all over or asking for a snack every 10 seconds, or waiting for everyone to get their sh!t together because jesus, we were supposed to leave 20 minutes ago Then a half hour ago. Now 45 minutes ago, and now our reservation is lost.

We go with the group because it's the agreeable thing to do, not because it's some kind of awesome price perk.

NP. I...think you really believe families want you on this vacation more than they actually do.

Go get your own place nearby, and meet up for a few beach outings and meals. Then they can get a break from your “superior” attitude.

PP: "We go on the group trips to be with people"
You: "I...think you really believe families want you on this vacation more than they actually do."

You sound like a super duper peach.

Sorry, peachy, you skipped a bit. You skipped the bits where the previous poster was talking about actually being with said family wiht nothing but sarcasm and disdain. "Kid splashed water/asking for snacks" "get your sh*t together/Jesus". If we can tell in three sentences how the PP actually feels about being on this vacation with his family, trust me, they can tell how much he dislikes being around them and their children. I don't particularly like spending vacation time with my kids around adults who openly dislike kids--do you?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t get the concept that singles use less of the common areas than couples with kids? Are you in a 15 person house with one couch? I guess I’m assuming no one would unilaterally take over a common space (and that adults get seating preferences over kids for example). Otherwise a house that fits 5 sets of people should have enough space for them to comfortably exist without confining themselves to bedrooms only.

Singles use less simply because in general parents tend to let their kids take precedent in group common rooms. So eight kids will be taking up couches, TV, floor space for games and puzzles, while the singleton is in one chair trying to read a magazine. Not saying either party is in the wrong, just pointing out that the kids *will* take over and use more of the common spaces.

Please tell that to my SIL and her never-ending parade of scrapbook materials and knitting projects that she leaves everywhere, then screams when someone--kid or adults--comes anywhere close to touching them.

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DH keeps trying to talk me into this kind of vacation with us & DD and friends with kids - I need to show him this thread to back up my case for all staying in a hotel.

Even if this gathering were with people I totally loved, I would lose my mind - sounds like a nightmare! Does anyone really have fun on these trips where you are together 24/7 in living arrangements where everyone feels uncomfortable about something?

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Anonymous wrote:DH keeps trying to talk me into this kind of vacation with us & DD and friends with kids - I need to show him this thread to back up my case for all staying in a hotel.

Even if this gathering were with people I totally loved, I would lose my mind - sounds like a nightmare! Does anyone really have fun on these trips where you are together 24/7 in living arrangements where everyone feels uncomfortable about something?

No.
But DCUM loves the entertainment each summer!

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Seriously, I love me some " help I'm trapped on Vacation with my in-laws threads"

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My parents split costs by family so my sister who is single pays the same as my family of three. Is it fair? No. But I'm keeping my mouth shut.

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Let me break it down as how my aunt did it (I asked her)
It was:
Group 1: 2 adults
Group 2: 2 adult
Group 3: 1 adult
Group 4: 2 adults, 1 baby
Group 5: 2 adults 3 kids 1 baby

There are 6 bedrooms
1st -4th bedrooms are all the same size. Only 2 bathrooms bc 3 of the bedrooms were add ons. 5th bedroom is huge and 6th is smallest.

Group 1-4 each took a same size bedrooms and group 5 took largest bedroom and smallest bedroom (nursery for baby)

Rent was $3,000 + another $2,000 ~ in utilities

Every group paid $1000 mainly bc groups 1-4 all has same size rooms and bathrooms were shared. Although group 5 has largest room, the adults had to share with kids and baby got nursery. Living in a home with 13 people and sharing 2 bathrooms was crazy so eventually everyone took off and left my aunt in a crunch with $5 k rent and bills a month

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever makes the most sense, just keep it simple. If you're doing it by bedrooms, all bedrooms are worth the same. If you're doing it by people, all people count the same. If you're splitting groceries, everyone pays an equal share (except maybe kids seven and under count as half, but it's easier just to count everyone as whole people).

I don't do group vacations with high-maintenance people. If you're going to split hairs over the exact square footage of your bedroom closet to try to pay less for your room, I don't travel with you. If you claim you're going to cram yourself, your spouse and your teen into one bedroom to save money over two bedrooms, only to have your teen sleep on the couch in the common room so everyone else feels like they have to tiptoe around until they wake up at noon, I don't travel with you. If you're going to divide grocery bills down to the level of whether you ate the steak or the chicken the night someone grilled for everyone, I don't travel with you. If it's more stress to figure out the bills with you than the vacation was worth, I don't travel with you.

OMG. Same thought here. I am feeling anxious just reading some of these posts. Vacation is supposed to be fun, people, not a crazy math exercise. I think the easiest thing to do is to split by room cost. No different than a hotel.

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Anonymous wrote:My parents split costs by family so my sister who is single pays the same as my family of three. Is it fair? No. But I'm keeping my mouth shut.

You’re delusional if you think no one notices how rude and greedy you are.

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I don’t think anyone who gets stuck on a couch or pullout should pay anything.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who gets stuck on a couch or pullout should pay anything.

Nah. As a pp said, if someone is sleeping on the couch in the great room, that limits the use of the great room for the other guests.

If everyone agrees that you stay free that's fine. But you can't assume that you taking the couch = free vacay.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever makes the most sense, just keep it simple. If you're doing it by bedrooms, all bedrooms are worth the same. If you're doing it by people, all people count the same. If you're splitting groceries, everyone pays an equal share (except maybe kids seven and under count as half, but it's easier just to count everyone as whole people).

I don't do group vacations with high-maintenance people. If you're going to split hairs over the exact square footage of your bedroom closet to try to pay less for your room, I don't travel with you. If you claim you're going to cram yourself, your spouse and your teen into one bedroom to save money over two bedrooms, only to have your teen sleep on the couch in the common room so everyone else feels like they have to tiptoe around until they wake up at noon, I don't travel with you. If you're going to divide grocery bills down to the level of whether you ate the steak or the chicken the night someone grilled for everyone, I don't travel with you. If it's more stress to figure out the bills with you than the vacation was worth, I don't travel with you.

OMG. Same thought here. I am feeling anxious just reading some of these posts. Vacation is supposed to be fun, people, not a crazy math exercise. I think the easiest thing to do is to split by room cost. No different than a hotel.

+1 Rooms with their own private bath cost more than the rooms with shared hallway bath.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who gets stuck on a couch or pullout should pay anything.

Nah. As a pp said, if someone is sleeping on the couch in the great room, that limits the use of the great room for the other guests.

If everyone agrees that you stay free that's fine. But you can't assume that you taking the couch = free vacay.

If you thought you were getting a room and paying, and got to the beach and you get a couch, then no pay, because that sucks. But if you plan on crashing for free then PP is right, I hate having someone in the common rooms, so that is a no go.

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Anonymous wrote:DH keeps trying to talk me into this kind of vacation with us & DD and friends with kids - I need to show him this thread to back up my case for all staying in a hotel.

Even if this gathering were with people I totally loved, I would lose my mind - sounds like a nightmare! Does anyone really have fun on these trips where you are together 24/7 in living arrangements where everyone feels uncomfortable about something?

Agreed. Thank you for this thread, DCUM, so i know better than to rent a house with family.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think anyone who gets stuck on a couch or pullout should pay anything.

Nah. As a pp said, if someone is sleeping on the couch in the great room, that limits the use of the great room for the other guests.

If everyone agrees that you stay free that's fine. But you can't assume that you taking the couch = free vacay.

If you thought you were getting a room and paying, and got to the beach and you get a couch, then no pay, because that sucks. But if you plan on crashing for free then PP is right, I hate having someone in the common rooms, so that is a no go.

Yes. These things should be decided BEFORE you get to the beach. Price each room and then divvy them up - everyone will know what they're getting in advance. No one should be forking over their share of the rental payment only to find out upon arrival that they've been relegated to the couch.