MS-13 in local schools

[Anonymous]

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So out of that 1400, how many are in HS? And which HSs?

The schools, nor the district administration, are not going to advertise the number of MS 13 members there are. Bad PR.
In fact, many articles about the killing of individuals, or the arrest of individuals, leaves off the name of the schools that individuals attend.
Why do you think that might be?

So then how do you know it's in EVERY school? If we want to address this issue then we need FACTS. Not just hysteria.

How many of those are school-aged?
Which neighborhoods?
Which schools?

Maybe the LEO spouse has some FACTS she can share.

You are disgusting. Gang activity and illegal immigration problems has started to seep into the best neighborhoods and still you're playin dumb and spreading lies, pretending to be ignorant. STFU.

I don't want to insult the pp, but I don't think she understands how gang activity works. Gang members aren't walking around with name tags. Just because you don't see someone that looks like whatever you think a gang member looks like, doesn't mean they aren't in your school. These kids aren't walking around with guns all the time. They aren't always trouble makers. They aren't harassing everyone they come into contact with. I'm not sure what "FACTS" you need. You've already been provided so many links. There are gang members in every school in this area. That doesn't make all of our schools dangerous. However, it is something that we need to take seriously.

[Anonymous]

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

[Anonymous]

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There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

So you're saying there is a presence of MS-13 in Central America, and they do the dirty work of coercing families, but there's no chance that some of these foreign born goons are among the illegal immigrants entering the border by the tens/hundreds of thousands yearly? Nice try. In any case, we don't disagree. MS-13 is a problem AND it is one that is exacerbated by illegal immigration. If you address one, you'll be addressing the other.

[Anonymous]

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There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

NO one said they "all" are. Get rid of the illegal aliens, secure the border, and these non-illegal ESOL kids can have more resources, better funding, and less over crowding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

NO one said they "all" are. Get rid of the illegal aliens, secure the border, and these non-illegal ESOL kids can have more resources, better funding, and less over crowding.

I'll ask again. Why is Trump going after fruit pickers and landscapers rather than MS 13?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

NO one said they "all" are. Get rid of the illegal aliens, secure the border, and these non-illegal ESOL kids can have more resources, better funding, and less over crowding.

I'll ask again. Why is Trump going after fruit pickers and landscapers rather than MS 13?

Because they are illegal aliens. And, "MS-13" and "day laborer" are not mutually exclusive categories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So out of that 1400, how many are in HS? And which HSs?

The schools, nor the district administration, are not going to advertise the number of MS 13 members there are. Bad PR.
In fact, many articles about the killing of individuals, or the arrest of individuals, leaves off the name of the schools that individuals attend.
Why do you think that might be?

So then how do you know it's in EVERY school? If we want to address this issue then we need FACTS. Not just hysteria.

How many of those are school-aged?
Which neighborhoods?
Which schools?

Maybe the LEO spouse has some FACTS she can share.

You are disgusting. Gang activity and illegal immigration problems has started to seep into the best neighborhoods and still you're playin dumb and spreading lies, pretending to be ignorant. STFU.

Such as? I know we are living in a post-fact world now, but at least try to provide some kind of FACTS instead of generalized hysteria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So out of that 1400, how many are in HS? And which HSs?

The schools, nor the district administration, are not going to advertise the number of MS 13 members there are. Bad PR.
In fact, many articles about the killing of individuals, or the arrest of individuals, leaves off the name of the schools that individuals attend.
Why do you think that might be?

So then how do you know it's in EVERY school? If we want to address this issue then we need FACTS. Not just hysteria.

How many of those are school-aged?
Which neighborhoods?
Which schools?

Maybe the LEO spouse has some FACTS she can share.

You are disgusting. Gang activity and illegal immigration problems has started to seep into the best neighborhoods and still you're playin dumb and spreading lies, pretending to be ignorant. STFU.

I don't want to insult the pp, but I don't think she understands how gang activity works. Gang members aren't walking around with name tags. Just because you don't see someone that looks like whatever you think a gang member looks like, doesn't mean they aren't in your school. These kids aren't walking around with guns all the time. They aren't always trouble makers. They aren't harassing everyone they come into contact with. I'm not sure what "FACTS" you need. You've already been provided so many links. There are gang members in every school in this area. That doesn't make all of our schools dangerous. However, it is something that we need to take seriously.

Citation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So out of that 1400, how many are in HS? And which HSs?

The schools, nor the district administration, are not going to advertise the number of MS 13 members there are. Bad PR.
In fact, many articles about the killing of individuals, or the arrest of individuals, leaves off the name of the schools that individuals attend.
Why do you think that might be?

So then how do you know it's in EVERY school? If we want to address this issue then we need FACTS. Not just hysteria.

How many of those are school-aged?
Which neighborhoods?
Which schools?

Maybe the LEO spouse has some FACTS she can share.

You are disgusting. Gang activity and illegal immigration problems has started to seep into the best neighborhoods and still you're playin dumb and spreading lies, pretending to be ignorant. STFU.

Such as? I know we are living in a post-fact world now, but at least try to provide some kind of FACTS instead of generalized hysteria.

Pretty rich of you to dismiss an entire thread on MS-13 which is supported by sources as "hysteria" and yet accuse others of not being factual. Get lost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

NO one said they "all" are. Get rid of the illegal aliens, secure the border, and these non-illegal ESOL kids can have more resources, better funding, and less over crowding.

I'll ask again. Why is Trump going after fruit pickers and landscapers rather than MS 13?

Because they are illegal aliens. And, "MS-13" and "day laborer" are not mutually exclusive categories.

MS13 is heavily recruiting in nurseries and fruit farms. It is well known.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A few months ago a person also made these claims about our school system. This got a lot of people worked up into a real tizzy, but when pressed they were unable to find a single shred of evidence to support this. There were 0 gang-related incidents in our school system going back several years. In fact, all they could do is post articles from Breitbart and other extremist sources claiming there was a national crisis. Not a single incident in our jurisdiction. It was fear mongering plain and simple.

I don't know what school system you are in, but the Post has been doing great journalism on this phenomenon. Both the linked article and one about two months ago about Langley Park.

I'm pro-immigrant and pro-DACA, which is why I refuse to pretend gangs aren't a problem. My kids may not be at risk, but I care about the thousands of immigrant kids in our area who are, due to their neighborhood or having family in Central America.

Which neighborhoods and which schools? It's an issue, but WHERE?

Jesus Christ she just gave you another example. Guessing you don’t live in Langley Park so you don’t care about that neighborhood.

So Langley Park and Fairfax HS. We're up to two now...

Don’t worry you’re probably pretty safe in Potomac!

This is what drives me insane about these discussions. It's always the ones who are wealthy enough to shutter themselves off in affluent, primarily homogeneous enclaves trying to tell the rest of us that WE'RE the racists, fear mongerers, etc. for being concerned about gangs, violence, etc. in the local schools.

I’m the PP calling out the fear mongering and anti-immigrant propaganda. I live in a diverse area and I have no doubt there is a MS-13 presence at our local HS. It needs to be addressed. BUT you don’t do that by lying to get the fearful immigrant-haters spun up. Either present some facts/data or STFU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So out of that 1400, how many are in HS? And which HSs?

The schools, nor the district administration, are not going to advertise the number of MS 13 members there are. Bad PR.
In fact, many articles about the killing of individuals, or the arrest of individuals, leaves off the name of the schools that individuals attend.
Why do you think that might be?

So then how do you know it's in EVERY school? If we want to address this issue then we need FACTS. Not just hysteria.

How many of those are school-aged?
Which neighborhoods?
Which schools?

Maybe the LEO spouse has some FACTS she can share.

You are disgusting. Gang activity and illegal immigration problems has started to seep into the best neighborhoods and still you're playin dumb and spreading lies, pretending to be ignorant. STFU.

Such as? I know we are living in a post-fact world now, but at least try to provide some kind of FACTS instead of generalized hysteria.

Pretty rich of you to dismiss an entire thread on MS-13 which is supported by sources as "hysteria" and yet accuse others of not being factual. Get lost.

Sources? Such as?? We have a middle school and a few HSs....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

NO one said they "all" are. Get rid of the illegal aliens, secure the border, and these non-illegal ESOL kids can have more resources, better funding, and less over crowding.

I'll ask again. Why is Trump going after fruit pickers and landscapers rather than MS 13?

Because they are illegal aliens. And, "MS-13" and "day laborer" are not mutually exclusive categories.

MS13 is heavily recruiting in nurseries and fruit farms. It is well known.

BS. Cite a source.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is no confusion. If these kids are citizens, they are the children of illegal immigrants. Wouldn't have been an issue if they had been prevented from entering the US illegally, removed before getting pregnant (which they do very quickly, and for good reason). Stop playing stupid.

Actually, MS-13 was "born" right here in the United States and the gang has been known to recruit legal US citizens with family in Central America, because the family allows them to be coerced while their citizenship protects them from ICE. So, no, not all gang members are undocumented, or the children of undocumented immigrants. Quite the opposite.

And neither are all ESOL kids the children of illegal immigrants FFS.

NO one said they "all" are. Get rid of the illegal aliens, secure the border, and these non-illegal ESOL kids can have more resources, better funding, and less over crowding.

Just how many kids do you think are “illegal”? What % of FCPS funds are paying for their education?