NYT opinion article "Did I choose the wrong college "

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cubans work the affirmative action game more than anyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:Just saw this online today - sort of interesting perspective although she lost me at the end. It's about a woman who chose between a full ride to U of Florida and some assistance (but not a lot) at Cornell. She's an adult now and reflecting on her choice.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/28/opinion/sunday/college-debt-choices.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

What she is saying is that the braces made her teeth straighter, but she is who she is, regardless.

She stopped wearing her bottom retainer and let a wisdom tooth grow in when she was advised to have it removed. That has caused her bottom teeth to stop being straight and her bottom retainer won't fit anymore.

I she acknowledging that her own mistakes have caused her teeth to get crooked again or is she saying that her parents made a foolish investment in her braces because look at how crooked her teeth are now?

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Is

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Honestly, it doesn't sound as though she appreciates either the gift of straight teeth or the gift of an Ivy education that her parents gave to her. It's like spoiled brat opening up her bday gifts and rolling her eyes.

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Sounds like she may regret some of her choices - but it is not Cornell's fault she took that position in Nebraska.

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May be she's still paying her loan.

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Anonymous wrote:May be she's still paying her loan.

I wonder if her parents ever financially recovered from mortgaging their house....

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we were in the similar situation this year. We chose full ride to UVA. The child got some financial aid from two Ivy colleges. We are middle-upper middle class, but we saved only for the in-state tuition for each child. To send her to Ivy with financial aid would mean either to take loans for additional $15-20k per year, or to re-mortgage our fully paid house. We went back and forward many times, discussed it with two different financial advisors, and decided to go UVA.

I know several rich families in this area (fully paid houses that costs 1,5-2.5 mil), stable jobs and still sending their children to state college. For me, as a middle class parent, it is a good indicator how rich people invest money.

Contrary, we went to both Ivies to the admitted student days, one was a two day with overnight stay. There were a lot of stressed parents who are taking huge loans, a lot of them look like immigrants/or first generation americans. My child stayed with a kid who's parents took loans and paying them while child is in the school. My kid decided that she doesn't want to put any financial stress on us when we have a free option.

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I know an MIT grad with $120,000 loans who changed her studies in grad school to music. She said she's screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:we were in the similar situation this year. We chose full ride to UVA. The child got some financial aid from two Ivy colleges. We are middle-upper middle class, but we saved only for the in-state tuition for each child. To send her to Ivy with financial aid would mean either to take loans for additional $15-20k per year, or to re-mortgage our fully paid house. We went back and forward many times, discussed it with two different financial advisors, and decided to go UVA.

I know several rich families in this area (fully paid houses that costs 1,5-2.5 mil), stable jobs and still sending their children to state college. For me, as a middle class parent, it is a good indicator how rich people invest money.

Contrary, we went to both Ivies to the admitted student days, one was a two day with overnight stay. There were a lot of stressed parents who are taking huge loans, a lot of them look like immigrants/or first generation americans. My child stayed with a kid who's parents took loans and paying them while child is in the school. My kid decided that she doesn't want to put any financial stress on us when we have a free option.

Your post makes it sound like you have something negative to say about immigrants and first generation americans. The fact of the matter is immigrants and first generation americans are making a rational choice going for the ivy because people such as them benefit from the networks and opportunities opened up by the ivy league whereas those that've been here for multiple generations might not need the same help.

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This was such a garbage article

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Anonymous wrote:we were in the similar situation this year. We chose full ride to UVA. The child got some financial aid from two Ivy colleges. We are middle-upper middle class, but we saved only for the in-state tuition for each child. To send her to Ivy with financial aid would mean either to take loans for additional $15-20k per year, or to re-mortgage our fully paid house. We went back and forward many times, discussed it with two different financial advisors, and decided to go UVA.

I know several rich families in this area (fully paid houses that costs 1,5-2.5 mil), stable jobs and still sending their children to state college. For me, as a middle class parent, it is a good indicator how rich people invest money.

Contrary, we went to both Ivies to the admitted student days, one was a two day with overnight stay. There were a lot of stressed parents who are taking huge loans, a lot of them look like immigrants/or first generation americans. My child stayed with a kid who's parents took loans and paying them while child is in the school. My kid decided that she doesn't want to put any financial stress on us when we have a free option.

Yet, the stressed out families return the next year and the next year. Obviously, they feel as though their kid is getting an extraordinary education that will set them apart from the rest.

The writer of this article has managed to land herself a tenured spot at a university w/o having a PHD. There is value to these ivy educations.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we were in the similar situation this year. We chose full ride to UVA. The child got some financial aid from two Ivy colleges. We are middle-upper middle class, but we saved only for the in-state tuition for each child. To send her to Ivy with financial aid would mean either to take loans for additional $15-20k per year, or to re-mortgage our fully paid house. We went back and forward many times, discussed it with two different financial advisors, and decided to go UVA.

I know several rich families in this area (fully paid houses that costs 1,5-2.5 mil), stable jobs and still sending their children to state college. For me, as a middle class parent, it is a good indicator how rich people invest money.

Contrary, we went to both Ivies to the admitted student days, one was a two day with overnight stay. There were a lot of stressed parents who are taking huge loans, a lot of them look like immigrants/or first generation americans. My child stayed with a kid who's parents took loans and paying them while child is in the school. My kid decided that she doesn't want to put any financial stress on us when we have a free option.

Your post makes it sound like you have something negative to say about immigrants and first generation americans. The fact of the matter is immigrants and first generation americans are making a rational choice going for the ivy because people such as them benefit from the networks and opportunities opened up by the ivy league whereas those that've been here for multiple generations might not need the same help.

Immigrants historically have been more focused on economics more so than the established Americans. Hamilton Musical describes Hamilton as young, scrappy, and hungry. First generations such as Hamilton went to King's College, known as Columbia. Nothing's changed in over 200 years. No news there.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we were in the similar situation this year. We chose full ride to UVA. The child got some financial aid from two Ivy colleges. We are middle-upper middle class, but we saved only for the in-state tuition for each child. To send her to Ivy with financial aid would mean either to take loans for additional $15-20k per year, or to re-mortgage our fully paid house. We went back and forward many times, discussed it with two different financial advisors, and decided to go UVA.

I know several rich families in this area (fully paid houses that costs 1,5-2.5 mil), stable jobs and still sending their children to state college. For me, as a middle class parent, it is a good indicator how rich people invest money.

Contrary, we went to both Ivies to the admitted student days, one was a two day with overnight stay. There were a lot of stressed parents who are taking huge loans, a lot of them look like immigrants/or first generation americans. My child stayed with a kid who's parents took loans and paying them while child is in the school. My kid decided that she doesn't want to put any financial stress on us when we have a free option.

Yet, the stressed out families return the next year and the next year. Obviously, they feel as though their kid is getting an extraordinary education that will set them apart from the rest.

The writer of this article has managed to land herself a tenured spot at a university w/o having a PHD. There is value to these ivy educations.

There are tons of Ivy graduates with master's who cannot get teaching jobs, let alone, tenured positions at state universities. You can't be serious she got tenured because of her undergraduate ivy degree. Absolutely not.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:we were in the similar situation this year. We chose full ride to UVA. The child got some financial aid from two Ivy colleges. We are middle-upper middle class, but we saved only for the in-state tuition for each child. To send her to Ivy with financial aid would mean either to take loans for additional $15-20k per year, or to re-mortgage our fully paid house. We went back and forward many times, discussed it with two different financial advisors, and decided to go UVA.

I know several rich families in this area (fully paid houses that costs 1,5-2.5 mil), stable jobs and still sending their children to state college. For me, as a middle class parent, it is a good indicator how rich people invest money.

Contrary, we went to both Ivies to the admitted student days, one was a two day with overnight stay. There were a lot of stressed parents who are taking huge loans, a lot of them look like immigrants/or first generation americans. My child stayed with a kid who's parents took loans and paying them while child is in the school. My kid decided that she doesn't want to put any financial stress on us when we have a free option.

Yet, the stressed out families return the next year and the next year. Obviously, they feel as though their kid is getting an extraordinary education that will set them apart from the rest.

The writer of this article has managed to land herself a tenured spot at a university w/o having a PHD. There is value to these ivy educations.

There are tons of Ivy graduates with master's who cannot get teaching jobs, let alone, tenured positions at state universities. You can't be serious she got tenured because of her undergraduate ivy degree. Absolutely not.

Well the author is the one saying "eh, I attended Cornell and look where I ended up" - stuck in Nebraska forever.

She probably does miss her family and the community that she grew up in. Miami has some pretty posh areas and gorgeous beaches. Maybe she would have been happier staying at home graduating from UF and teaching HS English. But I don't really understand why she couldn't have moved back to Miami after Cornell.

What exactly she is regretting about her circumstances isn't all that clear.