Why don’t people in “flyover country” just move?

Anonymous
They don’t even have to move out of flyover country. Utah, Iowa, and both North and South Dakota have extremely LOW unemployment rates. We need people to move out of the high unemployment states and regions where there are limited opportunities, and into places where they can’t get people to even work fast food. Imagine if there was a job training program to teach people from rural Pennsylvania, WV, Ohio, Kentucky, etc. in-demand jobs like dental assisting, nursing/other health care jobs (radiology, physical therapy, pharmacy tech are all big ones), or network/system admin work. Then when they’ve finished their education/training in their home state, the government gives them some block grant amount of money to move somewhere where they really need workers. There could probably even be something where these people are guaranteed a job in their new state/region upon successful completion of the program.

Really these areas need to be depopulated as much as possible. They are unsafe for various reasons (drug crime, lack of police/fire/EMT in rural areas), and a strain on state and local budgets. Get people into economically successful regions and break the cycle of poverty.
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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in NY-area, SF Bay area, South Florida and Chicago area. Except for the long winters, Chicago was hands down the best even if Illinois is a screwed up state. NY is just an expensive pressure pot of in your face people. Bay area is beautiful but the California mindset is myopic and the schools stink. South Florida is just NY-ers in shorts with face lifts. Chicago is affordable, people are nice, schools are good but those damn winters! Chicago is by far the best city in the country from May through October.

And yet, you ended up moving to NY, SF Bay Area, etc.. because I presume that's where your jobs were, right? Those companies clearly don't want to move to flyover.

Plenty of companies in “flyover,” sweetie. But don’t confuse your simple little head with facts.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/303696/us-fortune-500-companies-by-state/#0


Where are the wealthiest counties? Google: "super zips"

They are “super zips” in this area because their residents all suck off of government money.
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Anonymous wrote:You can say the same thing about blacks who remain in the deep South, where engrained prejudice is more rampant. It's difficult, emotionally and financially, to uproot yourself from one's entire support system, and many simply don't have the wherewithal.


Yes, I much prefer living in New Hampshire or Vermont (or even MA) where most people look and talk just like me. Diversity just isn't my thing.
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Anonymous wrote:You can say the same thing about blacks who remain in the deep South, where engrained prejudice is more rampant. It's difficult, emotionally and financially, to uproot yourself from one's entire support system, and many simply don't have the wherewithal.


Yes, I much prefer living in New Hampshire or Vermont (or even MA) where most people look and talk just like me. Diversity just isn't my thing.



Let's add CT to that non-diverse but oh so liberal minded state where 'engrained prejudice' is not an issue..
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Anonymous wrote:It really, really pays to be a big fish in flyover country. Plus, if my kids want to go to an Ivy, they’ll have an advantage over your kids.


Not true - a smart but disadvantaged kid from Podunk Arkansas where no one every applies to prestigious schools is going to have an advantage over the dozens of privileged kids who apply from GDS, who are a dime a dozen.

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in NY-area, SF Bay area, South Florida and Chicago area. Except for the long winters, Chicago was hands down the best even if Illinois is a screwed up state. NY is just an expensive pressure pot of in your face people. Bay area is beautiful but the California mindset is myopic and the schools stink. South Florida is just NY-ers in shorts with face lifts. Chicago is affordable, people are nice, schools are good but those damn winters! Chicago is by far the best city in the country from May through October.

And yet, you ended up moving to NY, SF Bay Area, etc.. because I presume that's where your jobs were, right? Those companies clearly don't want to move to flyover.

Plenty of companies in “flyover,” sweetie. But don’t confuse your simple little head with facts.

And yet, that PP ended up living in the big metro non flyover cities. I never said there were no companies in flyover country. I stated that those in the blue states clearly don't want to move to flyover. Get some comprehension skills, sweetie
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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in NY-area, SF Bay area, South Florida and Chicago area. Except for the long winters, Chicago was hands down the best even if Illinois is a screwed up state. NY is just an expensive pressure pot of in your face people. Bay area is beautiful but the California mindset is myopic and the schools stink. South Florida is just NY-ers in shorts with face lifts. Chicago is affordable, people are nice, schools are good but those damn winters! Chicago is by far the best city in the country from May through October.

And yet, you ended up moving to NY, SF Bay Area, etc.. because I presume that's where your jobs were, right? Those companies clearly don't want to move to flyover.

Plenty of companies in “flyover,” sweetie. But don’t confuse your simple little head with facts.


https://www.statista.com/statistics/303696/us-fortune-500-companies-by-state/#0


Where are the wealthiest counties? Google: "super zips"

They are “super zips” in this area because their residents all suck off of government money.

Really? Stats show that those blue areas contribute way more to the federal coffers than the red areas, and per capita wise, they take less in federal money. Again, blue states are the givers and red are the takers. So who's exactly sucking off the government money? Rural areas take more than urban in federal money.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/12/18/a-bipartisan-nation-of-beneficiaries/

" rural residents (62%) are more likely than urban (54%) or suburban (53%) dwellers to have gotten help."
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The interior red states are takers, whilst the blue coastal states are makers. That really burns up Trump loyalists.
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Anonymous wrote:The interior red states are takers, whilst the blue coastal states are makers. That really burns up Trump loyalists.


Why don't you share with us why you think New England blue states might have better test scores on standardized educational tests and higher income earners?
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Anonymous wrote:The interior red states are takers, whilst the blue coastal states are makers. That really burns up Trump loyalists.


Why don't you share with us why you think New England blue states might have better test scores on standardized educational tests and higher income earners?


Sure. Looks like your Internet must be down.

Massachusetts is typically the highest scoring state cut off every year in the National Merit Scholarship test, for example. Last year NJ beat it by a point.

https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalists-by-state/


The highest state income levels:

1. Maryland
4-7. NJ, CT, MA, NH

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
Anonymous
OP - you are seriously out of touch. Simply asking this question demonstrates your naiveté and total lack of experience with people in other parts of the country.
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Anonymous wrote:I am from flyover country. Many do move. There is a huge issue with brain drain. The people who do not move have legitimate reasons. Jobs, families, money. It is not like you can snap your fingers and create a new life on the east coast when 4 generations have been coal miners in WV.


As you watch dead broke often illiterate people flee conflict in the Mid East, Central America, etc. how can you say this with a straight face? How did Americans populate the west? They got off their freakin’ asses and fearlessly moved to better their families.


Ok. Well, good luck with that. This is why DJT won. Please stop because you make things worse. We ended up with an idiot for President. You do not understand flyover country. Have you ever been there?

Np Djt won what? Like seriously , take your own advice and stop because I can assure you a full four years of the bloated carrot and the already declining midwestern population will be further diminished. So again this is why Djt won what ? You're not as clever as you seem to delude yourself into thinking
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Anonymous wrote:The interior red states are takers, whilst the blue coastal states are makers. That really burns up Trump loyalists.


Why don't you share with us why you think New England blue states might have better test scores on standardized educational tests and higher income earners?


NP For one , its hard almost impossible to see a New England governor brag about cuts to education à la Scott walker ( flyover governor )
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The interior red states are takers, whilst the blue coastal states are makers. That really burns up Trump loyalists.


Why don't you share with us why you think New England blue states might have better test scores on standardized educational tests and higher income earners?


NP For one , its hard almost impossible to see a New England governor brag about cuts to education à la Scott walker ( flyover governor )

It’s almost impossible to picture them bragging about tax decreases too.
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Anonymous wrote:Not everyone is cut out for New Jersey, NYC or Chicago. City dwellers are different than those who prefer country life.


Well you can live where you prefer but don’t bitch about not having a good paying job! Again DC isn’t my first choice for living but I have plenty of job opportunities that enable me to feed my kids. Everyone needs to choose what they will sacrifice.

Unless you are in the business of bullshit, hot air, paper pushing, or sucking off the government, there are plenty of good jobs outside of DC.


Sure lol
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