The Gap Between Three APS High Schools

Anonymous
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1) APS puts the same amount per student at all HS but there is an enormous disparity in family ability to contribute whether it is PTA, band booster, etc. This is a huge issue at ever level (ES, MS, HS) and in some cased (see low f/r lunch schools) it is almost as if the parents are building a luxury private school on the bones of the public funding.
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No fucking clue. You do realize how much Arlington spends per student...


Dp- do you realize how much money some of the North Arlington PTA’s raise? you really don’t have a clue.


Who cares how much some of the NA PTAs raise? It has no impact on students at other schools.


Not the PP, but I think you are pointing to a large part of the problem: opportunity hoarding. The other big issue I have with school segregation is that racism and bigotry are more likely to go unchecked in less diverse schools, and that's an ongoing problem for us all. Well, those of us who think Donald Trump lacks empathy and human decency anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:):

1) APS puts the same amount per student at all HS but there is an enormous disparity in family ability to contribute whether it is PTA, band booster, etc. This is a huge issue at ever level (ES, MS, HS) and in some cased (see low f/r lunch schools) it is almost as if the parents are building a luxury private school on the bones of the public funding.
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No fucking clue. You do realize how much Arlington spends per student...


Dp- do you realize how much money some of the North Arlington PTA’s raise? you really don’t have a clue.


Who cares how much some of the NA PTAs raise? It has no impact on students at other schools.


Not the PP, but I think you are pointing to a large part of the problem: opportunity hoarding. The other big issue I have with school segregation is that racism and bigotry are more likely to go unchecked in less diverse schools, and that's an ongoing problem for us all. Well, those of us who think Donald Trump lacks empathy and human decency anyway.


Yes, but hardly anyone voted for Trump in Arlington. Chances are, most of the alleged opportunity hoarders are liberal.
Anonymous
Maybe it is a smaller band because fewer people in Wakefield are interested?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:):

1) APS puts the same amount per student at all HS but there is an enormous disparity in family ability to contribute whether it is PTA, band booster, etc. This is a huge issue at ever level (ES, MS, HS) and in some cased (see low f/r lunch schools) it is almost as if the parents are building a luxury private school on the bones of the public funding.
.

No fucking clue. You do realize how much Arlington spends per student...


Dp- do you realize how much money some of the North Arlington PTA’s raise? you really don’t have a clue.


Who cares how much some of the NA PTAs raise? It has no impact on students at other schools.


Not the PP, but I think you are pointing to a large part of the problem: opportunity hoarding. The other big issue I have with school segregation is that racism and bigotry are more likely to go unchecked in less diverse schools, and that's an ongoing problem for us all. Well, those of us who think Donald Trump lacks empathy and human decency anyway.


Yes, but hardly anyone voted for Trump in Arlington. Chances are, most of the alleged opportunity hoarders are liberal.


Shush, PP, you’re not supposed to point out the hypocrisy of Arlington liberal democrats.
Anonymous
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Shush, PP, you’re not supposed to point out the hypocrisy of Arlington liberal democrats.


Arlington Democrats are often (usually?) not that liberal.

See also: Parents who say all Arlington schools are good so it doesn't matter where kids go AND say their own NT kids from stable, financially secure homes have suffered more than any others and thus need to attend the schools their parents want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:On another active thread people were complaining that due to overcrowding, there is too much competition for slots in band, sports teams, etc. at W-L and Yorktown. This is another reason why better balancing the SES mix across schools is a good idea--there could be a critical mass at each school of kids who are interested in these sorts of resume-building activities to be able to field competitive teams or robust performing groups, and you wouldn't be forcing every UMC kid in Arlington to compete for the same slots in the same school. Getting the three comprehensive schools to better match the demographics of APS through choice/busing support/boundaries should be a win-win for the kids, if the parents would ever get over themselves.


This is a really good point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe it is a smaller band because fewer people in Wakefield are interested?


Doesn't make the disparity any more palatable for a community like Arlington, unless this is exactly who we are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On another active thread people were complaining that due to overcrowding, there is too much competition for slots in band, sports teams, etc. at W-L and Yorktown. This is another reason why better balancing the SES mix across schools is a good idea--there could be a critical mass at each school of kids who are interested in these sorts of resume-building activities to be able to field competitive teams or robust performing groups, and you wouldn't be forcing every UMC kid in Arlington to compete for the same slots in the same school. Getting the three comprehensive schools to better match the demographics of APS through choice/busing support/boundaries should be a win-win for the kids, if the parents would ever get over themselves.


This is a really good point.


Once again, I know better what is good for others' kids than do their parents. This certainly sounds like a winning argument to me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sorry op, but marching band doesn’t have a rich tradition in Ethiopia and El Salvador. You can’t make people share your values.


THANK you!

From all I hear, Wakefield has a vibrant theatre program with more students of color participating than choose to at the other two schools.

I don't really understand marching band. Glad it makes some people happy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On another active thread people were complaining that due to overcrowding, there is too much competition for slots in band, sports teams, etc. at W-L and Yorktown. This is another reason why better balancing the SES mix across schools is a good idea--there could be a critical mass at each school of kids who are interested in these sorts of resume-building activities to be able to field competitive teams or robust performing groups, and you wouldn't be forcing every UMC kid in Arlington to compete for the same slots in the same school. Getting the three comprehensive schools to better match the demographics of APS through choice/busing support/boundaries should be a win-win for the kids, if the parents would ever get over themselves.


This is a really good point.


Once again, I know better what is good for others' kids than do their parents. This certainly sounds like a winning argument to me.


Then pardon me when I won't support your demands for a fourth comprehensive high school. Because "I'd rather the community bond $150 million for the next 30 years instead of redraw the boundaries a little to the south" is definitely not a winning argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:):

1) APS puts the same amount per student at all HS but there is an enormous disparity in family ability to contribute whether it is PTA, band booster, etc. This is a huge issue at ever level (ES, MS, HS) and in some cased (see low f/r lunch schools) it is almost as if the parents are building a luxury private school on the bones of the public funding.
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No fucking clue. You do realize how much Arlington spends per student...


Dp- do you realize how much money some of the North Arlington PTA’s raise? you really don’t have a clue.


I chair or co-chair three fundraisers for my kids' school (not because I have some burning need to run PTA fundraisers, but because they didn't have anyone else to run them). A big part of why I'm willing to do this is that I live walking distance from the school and it's really easy for me to go back and forth throughout the day when a fundraising event is live. If you bus my kids to school further away, I'm not going to take those efforts to that other school, I'll find some other way to volunteer that doesn't require me to be at the school. Someone else can raise the money, or the school can go without.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On another active thread people were complaining that due to overcrowding, there is too much competition for slots in band, sports teams, etc. at W-L and Yorktown. This is another reason why better balancing the SES mix across schools is a good idea--there could be a critical mass at each school of kids who are interested in these sorts of resume-building activities to be able to field competitive teams or robust performing groups, and you wouldn't be forcing every UMC kid in Arlington to compete for the same slots in the same school. Getting the three comprehensive schools to better match the demographics of APS through choice/busing support/boundaries should be a win-win for the kids, if the parents would ever get over themselves.


This is a really good point.


Once again, I know better what is good for others' kids than do their parents. This certainly sounds like a winning argument to me.


Then pardon me when I won't support your demands for a fourth comprehensive high school. Because "I'd rather the community bond $150 million for the next 30 years instead of redraw the boundaries a little to the south" is definitely not a winning argument.


A 4th comprehensive high school is a complete waste of taxpayer dollars and county resources. Wasn't it just in the 80s and 90s when the schools were empty? Someone once said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Let's just make some special programs and better yet - why not rent one of these empty office buildings in Ballston for these programs...hasn't the federal government left? I like the idea of NSF High.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On another active thread people were complaining that due to overcrowding, there is too much competition for slots in band, sports teams, etc. at W-L and Yorktown. This is another reason why better balancing the SES mix across schools is a good idea--there could be a critical mass at each school of kids who are interested in these sorts of resume-building activities to be able to field competitive teams or robust performing groups, and you wouldn't be forcing every UMC kid in Arlington to compete for the same slots in the same school. Getting the three comprehensive schools to better match the demographics of APS through choice/busing support/boundaries should be a win-win for the kids, if the parents would ever get over themselves.


This is a really good point.


Once again, I know better what is good for others' kids than do their parents. This certainly sounds like a winning argument to me.


Then pardon me when I won't support your demands for a fourth comprehensive high school. Because "I'd rather the community bond $150 million for the next 30 years instead of redraw the boundaries a little to the south" is definitely not a winning argument.


A 4th comprehensive high school is a complete waste of taxpayer dollars and county resources. Wasn't it just in the 80s and 90s when the schools were empty? Someone once said "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Let's just make some special programs and better yet - why not rent one of these empty office buildings in Ballston for these programs...hasn't the federal government left? I like the idea of NSF High.
Anonymous
Isn't football dangerous? Can we get rid of the football fields? That should make room for extra classrooms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


Once again, I know better what is good for others' kids than do their parents. This certainly sounds like a winning argument to me.

Then pardon me when I won't support your demands for a fourth comprehensive high school. Because "I'd rather the community bond $150 million for the next 30 years instead of redraw the boundaries a little to the south" is definitely not a winning argument.


You really don't understand the point at all, do you? The problem is that you are a condescending twit and you expect that to win you political allies.i have no opinion on what to do with the high school situation. My kids will be long gone by then. I don't tell you how to live you life and how you should think. Please do me a favor and reciprocate.
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