Renting but not occupying for DCPS in-boundary residency purposes?

[Anonymous]

I'm impressed your husband switched over to Maryland plates so quickly. I would have clung to the DC address for dear life until I was fully settled someplace new.

[Anonymous]

OP here. The accusations of racist motivation with no basis in fact are amusing. We are what some of you so colorfully characterized as "brown people". The whole point of living EOTP is to be around our fellow "brown people", not to have a bigger house (it’s just the three of us). I’d like my daughter to be around "brown children" at school too (so no "ewww", sorry), but not at the expense of her education. The fact that some of you translated "good public school" into "no brown children" is all on you.

Thanks for those who posted thoughtful answers, you brought up several issues I hadn’t considered. We may end up looking at alternatives as a result.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love it every time this topic comes up because it makes people so mad.

Clearly based on the school numbers, many people are getting away with it.

People should be mad, and cheaters should be ashamed.

The cheaters like to pretend that it makes particular sense for them for some reason -- that they are a special, deserving case. And they like to pretend like it affects no one else, but it does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The accusations of racist motivation with no basis in fact are amusing. We are what some of you so colorfully characterized as "brown people". The whole point of living EOTP is to be around our fellow "brown people", not to have a bigger house (it’s just the three of us). I’d like my daughter to be around "brown children" at school too (so no "ewww", sorry), but not at the expense of her education. The fact that some of you translated "good public school" into "no brown children" is all on you.

Thanks for those who posted thoughtful answers, you brought up several issues I hadn’t considered. We may end up looking at alternatives as a result.

This really isn't making you look any better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love it every time this topic comes up because it makes people so mad.

Clearly based on the school numbers, many people are getting away with it.

People should be mad, and cheaters should be ashamed.

The cheaters like to pretend that it makes particular sense for them for some reason -- that they are a special, deserving case. And they like to pretend like it affects no one else, but it does.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The accusations of racist motivation with no basis in fact are amusing. We are what some of you so colorfully characterized as "brown people". The whole point of living EOTP is to be around our fellow "brown people", not to have a bigger house (it’s just the three of us). I’d like my daughter to be around "brown children" at school too (so no "ewww", sorry), but not at the expense of her education. The fact that some of you translated "good public school" into "no brown children" is all on you.

Thanks for those who posted thoughtful answers, you brought up several issues I hadn’t considered. We may end up looking at alternatives as a result.

This really isn't making you look any better.

Once you have a cheater's mindset, you have to not care at all how you look on a message board. Just think about what will matter to get away with the ruse.

For instance, I would go for Eaton or Hearst where I could blend in with the other OOB families. Ironically, my next choice would be Janney, where I would hope the school size would help me get lost in the crowd. (Not many apts. in bound for Janney, but they do exist).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a concrete example of why this is not a good idea. I live in the Ross ES school zone, which is a super-highly rated school with PK3. They have home visits for pre-K kids. In the past, teachers have scheduled home visits right before the school year started, realized the parents in fact, did not live within the boundary, and the kids were not allowed to take those PK slots and I would guess, had to scramble to find a new option in August.

And also agree with other people that OP's conscience should not be "clean."

Home visits are optional, and if OP's kid is already in a $4K / month private the child is past the age where home visits occur anyway.

But yeah, she shouldn't do what she describes.

But there is a legal way to achieve the same thing. Rent IB for the school you wish to attend with the $4K tuition money and live in that place for at least one year (has to be K or above). Rent out your bigger home across town. After you've completed a year at the 'good' school, move back to your house across town.

That is TOTALLY legal, and DCPS will let you stay in the school through the end of the feeder pattern.

This is untrue. I am moving my private school dc to public (3rd grade) and have been told they are visiting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a concrete example of why this is not a good idea. I live in the Ross ES school zone, which is a super-highly rated school with PK3. They have home visits for pre-K kids. In the past, teachers have scheduled home visits right before the school year started, realized the parents in fact, did not live within the boundary, and the kids were not allowed to take those PK slots and I would guess, had to scramble to find a new option in August.

And also agree with other people that OP's conscience should not be "clean."

Home visits are optional, and if OP's kid is already in a $4K / month private the child is past the age where home visits occur anyway.

But yeah, she shouldn't do what she describes.

But there is a legal way to achieve the same thing. Rent IB for the school you wish to attend with the $4K tuition money and live in that place for at least one year (has to be K or above). Rent out your bigger home across town. After you've completed a year at the 'good' school, move back to your house across town.

That is TOTALLY legal, and DCPS will let you stay in the school through the end of the feeder pattern.

This is untrue. I am moving my private school dc to public (3rd grade) and have been told they are visiting.

And you can decline. Or set up the visit at a coffee shop.

Home visits are to develop relationships with teachers. They are not for residency or boundary checks.

If the family can't produce documents or there are issues with residency, the registrar and admin deal with it, not the teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The accusations of racist motivation with no basis in fact are amusing. We are what some of you so colorfully characterized as "brown people". The whole point of living EOTP is to be around our fellow "brown people", not to have a bigger house (it’s just the three of us). I’d like my daughter to be around "brown children" at school too (so no "ewww", sorry), but not at the expense of her education. The fact that some of you translated "good public school" into "no brown children" is all on you.

Thanks for those who posted thoughtful answers, you brought up several issues I hadn’t considered. We may end up looking at alternatives as a result.

I really think you are ridiculous. I live EotP and am moving my child to public school because she isn’t happy at her private. I think she will be the only white kid in her grade. I don’t have an issue with this. You’re a racist/bigot and should probably just move. I don’t understand your thought process.

[Anonymous]

So, OP, you don’t want to sacrifice her education for diversity’s sake? How would you explain to her about lying about where you live or the dislike you feel for the families she goes to school with? Would you decline play dates and party invites so she isn’t exposed to the wrong crowd? Would you tell other parents at school events that you are avoiding their neighborhood but are happy to take advantage of the school where they live? Are you allowed because you are brown?

Just a few more issues for you to consider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's a concrete example of why this is not a good idea. I live in the Ross ES school zone, which is a super-highly rated school with PK3. They have home visits for pre-K kids. In the past, teachers have scheduled home visits right before the school year started, realized the parents in fact, did not live within the boundary, and the kids were not allowed to take those PK slots and I would guess, had to scramble to find a new option in August.

And also agree with other people that OP's conscience should not be "clean."

Home visits are optional, and if OP's kid is already in a $4K / month private the child is past the age where home visits occur anyway.

But yeah, she shouldn't do what she describes.

But there is a legal way to achieve the same thing. Rent IB for the school you wish to attend with the $4K tuition money and live in that place for at least one year (has to be K or above). Rent out your bigger home across town. After you've completed a year at the 'good' school, move back to your house across town.

That is TOTALLY legal, and DCPS will let you stay in the school through the end of the feeder pattern.

This is untrue. I am moving my private school dc to public (3rd grade) and have been told they are visiting.

And you can decline. Or set up the visit at a coffee shop.

Home visits are to develop relationships with teachers. They are not for residency or boundary checks.

If the family can't produce documents or there are issues with residency, the registrar and admin deal with it, not the teachers.

Oh didn’t know it was optional. I am fine with them coming over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The accusations of racist motivation with no basis in fact are amusing. We are what some of you so colorfully characterized as "brown people". The whole point of living EOTP is to be around our fellow "brown people", not to have a bigger house (it’s just the three of us). I’d like my daughter to be around "brown children" at school too (so no "ewww", sorry), but not at the expense of her education. The fact that some of you translated "good public school" into "no brown children" is all on you.

Thanks for those who posted thoughtful answers, you brought up several issues I hadn’t considered. We may end up looking at alternatives as a result.

This really isn't making you look any better.

Once you have a cheater's mindset, you have to not care at all how you look on a message board. Just think about what will matter to get away with the ruse.

For instance, I would go for Eaton or Hearst where I could blend in with the other OOB families. Ironically, my next choice would be Janney, where I would hope the school size would help me get lost in the crowd. (Not many apts. in bound for Janney, but they do exist).

Our neighbors are technically cheaters. They moved OOB, and nextdoor, a few years ago and never told their principal, while renting out house #1. They're also the last people we'd turn in. They're the kind of people who patiently lobby the ANC and DDOT to get a disastrous sidewalk changed until they get results. They're an asset to the neighborhood, paying property tax on 2 houses (a few blocks apart) they've fixed up beautifully over many years. I'm not going to judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi. I'm a DC resident, but I'm paying for private school because my in-boundary school is no good and I struck out in the DCPS lottery. I'm considering renting an apartment in-boundary of a good DCPS school, which would be less expensive than what I'm paying for private school, just so we have an in-boundary address. I wouldn't move in. Maybe I would sublet, or AirBNB, if allowed, to recoup some of the rent money, or just leave it empty. Is that sort of thing kosher? It's not like would be lying about my DC residency, I pay plenty of taxes to DC, my conscience is clean.

No. Residency means you live there. DCPS can even do a home check to make sure you and your kids actually live there -- ie, eat and sleep there.

Why have you decided your "conscience is clean" before knowing the rules?

Is there a source for this? Just curious, since I've never heard this before. I know of at least one family at my kid's school who is doing this (i.e., using the address of a property they own, but which only relatives occupy currently).

Definition: second PP currently doing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. The accusations of racist motivation with no basis in fact are amusing. We are what some of you so colorfully characterized as "brown people". The whole point of living EOTP is to be around our fellow "brown people", not to have a bigger house (it’s just the three of us). I’d like my daughter to be around "brown children" at school too (so no "ewww", sorry), but not at the expense of her education. The fact that some of you translated "good public school" into "no brown children" is all on you.

Thanks for those who posted thoughtful answers, you brought up several issues I hadn’t considered. We may end up looking at alternatives as a result.

This really isn't making you look any better.

Once you have a cheater's mindset, you have to not care at all how you look on a message board. Just think about what will matter to get away with the ruse.

For instance, I would go for Eaton or Hearst where I could blend in with the other OOB families. Ironically, my next choice would be Janney, where I would hope the school size would help me get lost in the crowd. (Not many apts. in bound for Janney, but they do exist).

Our neighbors are technically cheaters. They moved OOB, and nextdoor, a few years ago and never told their principal, while renting out house #1. They're also the last people we'd turn in. They're the kind of people who patiently lobby the ANC and DDOT to get a disastrous sidewalk changed until they get results. They're an asset to the neighborhood, paying property tax on 2 houses (a few blocks apart) they've fixed up beautifully over many years. I'm not going to judge.

Ugh. They sound like the kind of people who think that all of public works need to be specifically catered towards them. That said, apparently what they did is now kosher, if what people said upthread is correct.

[Anonymous]

No, they're the kind of "difficult" people willing to do the research to find out that barely competent DDOT didn't even have a record of the badly degraded sidewalks in question. I like a constructive and civil minded squeaky wheel. They've settled in the neighborhood, and contributed meaningfully to it. I don't think it's anybody's business where they sleep or which public schools they use but their own. Ugh, holier than thou posters.