DC council to hold hearings on decriminalizing fare evasion on the Metro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know who is going in and out of Metro. And that means registered fare cards. I don't care if they are free, but we need as many cameras and idefitifiers as possible. Have you seen the horrible tourist harbor beatings in Baltimore? And they can't even find the lawless teens. For me, whatever solution they propose--it has to be one where we know who is going in and out. Forgot your fare card? you don't breeze through. you show ID and have your name and info taken at the turnstile. Something like that.

This makes no sense-- millions of tourists who come to DC use one-time use cards rather than registered Smartrip cards. I misplace my registered Smartrip card with some regularity and have 2-3 backup cards that I have never registered. You're advocating a level of scrutiny that is never going to happen.

And they've all taken the first step towards being law abiding on metro. Should you forget or choose to not purchase a card, and still want to ride (for FREE), you should be asked to give your name and address.

Go to a meeting and issue a proposal. Or...STFU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are the expected repercussions on everyday commuters if fare evasion is decriminalized? Are we going to have a subway system like something out of a Mad Max movie?

So now the naive "social justice advocates" on the Deecee council want to decriminalize Metro fare evasion, in some hare-brained move to take Metro back to the 1970s -- not 1970s DC (when Metro was a model for the nation) but 1970s NYC.

In the past two-three years, because Metro police feel disempowered by DC authorities who won't prosecute,
--aggressive panhandling on trains and in the stations has increased.
--people eat, drink and toss their food garbage in the trains and stations. The police feel that DC authorities will not back them up if they enforce the bans. Trash on the tracks means more track fires. The condition of some trains by day's end is disgusting.
--some people play music in the trains, notwithstanding the ban on audio devices not connected to headphones. If you don't like the noise, tough luck.
--anyone now can bring a pet on board Metro by claiming it's a "service animal." No certificates or dog vests required. Metro staff know that most of it is BS, but have been told they can't ask because advocates have asserted it's a civil rights issue. These are not trained animals, like seeing eye dogs. They urinate and defecate in the Metro. If you have animal allergies, too bad. You have no rights.

Well said. Thank you.
Enough is enough!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the expected repercussions on everyday commuters if fare evasion is decriminalized? Are we going to have a subway system like something out of a Mad Max movie?

So now the naive "social justice advocates" on the Deecee council want to decriminalize Metro fare evasion, in some hare-brained move to take Metro back to the 1970s -- not 1970s DC (when Metro was a model for the nation) but 1970s NYC.

In the past two-three years, because Metro police feel disempowered by DC authorities who won't prosecute,
--aggressive panhandling on trains and in the stations has increased.
--people eat, drink and toss their food garbage in the trains and stations. The police feel that DC authorities will not back them up if they enforce the bans. Trash on the tracks means more track fires. The condition of some trains by day's end is disgusting.
--some people play music in the trains, notwithstanding the ban on audio devices not connected to headphones. If you don't like the noise, tough luck.
--anyone now can bring a pet on board Metro by claiming it's a "service animal." No certificates or dog vests required. Metro staff know that most of it is BS, but have been told they can't ask because advocates have asserted it's a civil rights issue. These are not trained animals, like seeing eye dogs. They urinate and defecate in the Metro. If you have animal allergies, too bad. You have no rights.

Tilting at windmills, Pedro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn't it be easier just to increase the age limit for kids who ride free?

Wait...kids ride free on the metro?

We have been paying for all of our kids and visitors' kids for years! What age is tye cut off to ride the metro for free? We could have saved a bundle if we knew kids did not need to pay to metro.

Two children per fare-paying adult age four and under ride free. This is a great way to take your preschool on a field trip.

DCPS students with an activated DC One card ride free during school time.

DC One card works all the time from my experience. Even over the summer.

That's ridiculous! There needs to be a limit on such usage!

There is. DC One Cards can be used during the period summer school is in session. And DCPS pays a sizable subsidy to WMATA considering most students don’t use Metrobus or Metrorail with frequency.

https://ddot.dc.gov/page/kids-ride-free-frequently-asked-questions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the expected repercussions on everyday commuters if fare evasion is decriminalized? Are we going to have a subway system like something out of a Mad Max movie?

So now the naive "social justice advocates" on the Deecee council want to decriminalize Metro fare evasion, in some hare-brained move to take Metro back to the 1970s -- not 1970s DC (when Metro was a model for the nation) but 1970s NYC.

In the past two-three years, because Metro police feel disempowered by DC authorities who won't prosecute,
--aggressive panhandling on trains and in the stations has increased.
--people eat, drink and toss their food garbage in the trains and stations. The police feel that DC authorities will not back them up if they enforce the bans. Trash on the tracks means more track fires. The condition of some trains by day's end is disgusting.
--some people play music in the trains, notwithstanding the ban on audio devices not connected to headphones. If you don't like the noise, tough luck.
--anyone now can bring a pet on board Metro by claiming it's a "service animal." No certificates or dog vests required. Metro staff know that most of it is BS, but have been told they can't ask because advocates have asserted it's a civil rights issue. These are not trained animals, like seeing eye dogs. They urinate and defecate in the Metro. If you have animal allergies, too bad. You have no rights.

Tilting at windmills, Pedro.

So you’re fine with accepting the shitty status quo? That’s the way New York used to be until Koch and Rudy told the police to take care of business and start kicking some ass. We could use some of that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the expected repercussions on everyday commuters if fare evasion is decriminalized? Are we going to have a subway system like something out of a Mad Max movie?

So now the naive "social justice advocates" on the Deecee council want to decriminalize Metro fare evasion, in some hare-brained move to take Metro back to the 1970s -- not 1970s DC (when Metro was a model for the nation) but 1970s NYC.

In the past two-three years, because Metro police feel disempowered by DC authorities who won't prosecute,
--aggressive panhandling on trains and in the stations has increased.
--people eat, drink and toss their food garbage in the trains and stations. The police feel that DC authorities will not back them up if they enforce the bans. Trash on the tracks means more track fires. The condition of some trains by day's end is disgusting.
--some people play music in the trains, notwithstanding the ban on audio devices not connected to headphones. If you don't like the noise, tough luck.
--anyone now can bring a pet on board Metro by claiming it's a "service animal." No certificates or dog vests required. Metro staff know that most of it is BS, but have been told they can't ask because advocates have asserted it's a civil rights issue. These are not trained animals, like seeing eye dogs. They urinate and defecate in the Metro. If you have animal allergies, too bad. You have no rights.

Tilting at windmills, Pedro.

So you’re fine with accepting the shitty status quo? That’s the way New York used to be until Koch and Rudy told the police to take care of business and start kicking some ass. We could use some of that here.

Surely all the bellyaching on social media from you and your ilk should be sufficient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know who is going in and out of Metro. And that means registered fare cards. I don't care if they are free, but we need as many cameras and idefitifiers as possible. Have you seen the horrible tourist harbor beatings in Baltimore? And they can't even find the lawless teens. For me, whatever solution they propose--it has to be one where we know who is going in and out. Forgot your fare card? you don't breeze through. you show ID and have your name and info taken at the turnstile. Something like that.

This makes no sense-- millions of tourists who come to DC use one-time use cards rather than registered Smartrip cards. I misplace my registered Smartrip card with some regularity and have 2-3 backup cards that I have never registered. You're advocating a level of scrutiny that is never going to happen.

And they've all taken the first step towards being law abiding on metro. Should you forget or choose to not purchase a card, and still want to ride (for FREE), you should be asked to give your name and address.

Go to a meeting and issue a proposal. Or...STFU

That's your level of civic discourse? Your incivility is part of the environment that is causing people to come to blows and hurt each other in our nation. People like you who would flippantly say that to a neighbor with an opinion. I pray for your soul to heal.

[Anonymous]

Don’t get mad at me.
The legislation has received endorsements from councilmembers Mary Cheh (D-Ward 3), Elissa Silverman (I-At Large), Anita Bonds (D-At Large), Robert C White Jr. (D-At Large), Brianne Nadeau (D-Ward 1), David Grosso (I-At Large) and Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t get mad at me.
The legislation has received endorsements from councilmembers Mary Cheh (D-Ward 3), Elissa Silverman (I-At Large), Anita Bonds (D-At Large), Robert C White Jr. (D-At Large), Brianne Nadeau (D-Ward 1), David Grosso (I-At Large) and Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5).

At a time when other states want to crack down on lawbreakers, the DC council wants to turn Washington into a "sanctuary city" for offenders. Wacky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t get mad at me.
The legislation has received endorsements from councilmembers Mary Cheh (D-Ward 3), Elissa Silverman (I-At Large), Anita Bonds (D-At Large), Robert C White Jr. (D-At Large), Brianne Nadeau (D-Ward 1), David Grosso (I-At Large) and Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5).

At a time when other states want to crack down on lawbreakers, the DC council wants to turn Washington into a "sanctuary city" for offenders. Wacky.

Oh well at least Trump won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t get mad at me.
The legislation has received endorsements from councilmembers Mary Cheh (D-Ward 3), Elissa Silverman (I-At Large), Anita Bonds (D-At Large), Robert C White Jr. (D-At Large), Brianne Nadeau (D-Ward 1), David Grosso (I-At Large) and Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5).

At a time when other states want to crack down on lawbreakers, the DC council wants to turn Washington into a "sanctuary city" for offenders. Wacky.

Oh well at least Trump won.

When I see the deterioration in the rider experience at Metro, I wish that Metro management and police would sweat the small stuff again. Safety and reliability issues have had the most serious impact, but massive capital improvements require massive funding. Stepping up enforcement so that that Metro is cleaner, feels safer and everyone pays their share doesn't require massive funding outlays. It just requires Metro personnel and DC to give a damn. The council legislation seems to be going in the wrong direction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t get mad at me.
The legislation has received endorsements from councilmembers Mary Cheh (D-Ward 3), Elissa Silverman (I-At Large), Anita Bonds (D-At Large), Robert C White Jr. (D-At Large), Brianne Nadeau (D-Ward 1), David Grosso (I-At Large) and Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5).

At a time when other states want to crack down on lawbreakers, the DC council wants to turn Washington into a "sanctuary city" for offenders. Wacky.

Oh well at least Trump won.

When I see the deterioration in the rider experience at Metro, I wish that Metro management and police would sweat the small stuff again. Safety and reliability issues have had the most serious impact, but massive capital improvements require massive funding. Stepping up enforcement so that that Metro is cleaner, feels safer and everyone pays their share doesn't require massive funding outlays. It just requires Metro personnel and DC to give a damn. The council legislation seems to be going in the wrong direction.

So go to a meeting and tell em.

[Anonymous]

Even the homeless people are afraid of the DC youth thugs

https://www.streetsensemedia.org/article/thugs-on-metro-dc/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even the homeless people are afraid of the DC youth thugs

https://www.streetsensemedia.org/article/thugs-on-metro-dc/

Oh well.
Tell it to the council.

[Anonymous]

Sure. Let's decriminalize fare evasion and ease off on strict law enforcement to promote "social justice" on Metro.

http://wapo.st/2zHK9zF?tid=ss_mail&utm_term=.2469f03fd5fa