DACA to be phased out

[Anonymous]

Immigration Reform technically or literally means to remove abuses /improve the USA's immigration policies. Politically /figuratively it means relaxing and removing immigration laws relative to the Southern Border.

Obama's second go round in 2014 did not go through. DACA created a flood. Reagan's amnesty was not productive unless you're an illegal immigrant.

Birthright citizenship is not what was intended. Derivative citizenship? That is relevant and valid but some have abused the clear requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

EVERYBODY MUST KNOW THAT IF DACA IS NOT ENDED, MORE ILLEGAL ALIENS WILL COME WITH THEIR KIDS, SO THEY WOULD BE AWARDED WITH A LEGAL STATUS IN U.S.

Your Emperor is gonna con you about ending DACA as he conned you about the wall, about bringing back manufacturing jobs that the machines ate, about labeling China a currency manipulator, about somehow ending foreign labor when he brings in foreign waitresses, about bringing back coal jobs etc etc.

Your SHOUTING tells us that you are gonna turn against him sooner than later.

we know what Obama did

The 2014 American immigration crisis refers to the surge in unaccompanied children from Central America seeking entrance to the United States. The surge has increased rapidly, doubling in volume each year,[1] reaching crisis proportions in 2014 when tens of thousands of women and children from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras migrated to the United States.[2] Many of the children had no parent/legal guardian available to provide care or physical custody and quickly overwhelmed local border patrols.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_American_immigration_crisis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Obama's father part of an experiment to educate thousands of Kenyans, who would then return home and fix their country?

And we allow so many Far East and Arabic international students in our top universities (who take seats away from American students) under belief it's good for these students to steep in America, taking with them progressive American values, capitalism, democracy, freedom, etc.?

So, couldn't we argue that after DACA students are educated here in the USA for free, exporting educated & political active young people to their home countries -- Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. -- will allow them the chance to stabilize and fix their homeland?

Not PO. Can you show any proof that foreign students are taking away seats for us citizens?

The foreign students actually help pay for the education of US citizens by paying the full tuition. The universities can't provide as many scholarships without foreign students paying full tuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Obama's father part of an experiment to educate thousands of Kenyans, who would then return home and fix their country?

And we allow so many Far East and Arabic international students in our top universities (who take seats away from American students) under belief it's good for these students to steep in America, taking with them progressive American values, capitalism, democracy, freedom, etc.?

So, couldn't we argue that after DACA students are educated here in the USA for free, exporting educated & political active young people to their home countries -- Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. -- will allow them the chance to stabilize and fix their homeland?

That doesn't happen.

Bologne. Illinois flagship campus has over 10,000 international students. Kids in Illinois find themselves getting rejected and paying out of state tuition at Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State.

Same thing was happening in the Cal-system.

Can you show some proof for everything you stated. Foreign students pay full tuition and subsidize the education of us citizens .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Immigration Reform technically or literally means to remove abuses /improve the USA's immigration policies. Politically /figuratively it means relaxing and removing immigration laws relative to the Southern Border.

Obama's second go round in 2014 did not go through. DACA created a flood. Reagan's amnesty was not productive unless you're an illegal immigrant.

Birthright citizenship is not what was intended. Derivative citizenship? That is relevant and valid but some have abused the clear requirements.

My post above. Obama's DACA was/is for a defined group as was Reagan's amnesty. DACA is not a flexible moving group. DACA caused the surge in unaccompanied minors-that was/is not a defined group and should be cancelled. DACA by virtue of it's guidelines automatically phases out. From Reagan and Obama we have definitive data that any relaxation for illegal immigration creates a surge. Remove the levee in NOLA or a portion thereof?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

I do fund the wall with forty percent of my paycheck in the form of taxes. Why don't you fund planned abortionhood through go fund me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Obama's father part of an experiment to educate thousands of Kenyans, who would then return home and fix their country?

And we allow so many Far East and Arabic international students in our top universities (who take seats away from American students) under belief it's good for these students to steep in America, taking with them progressive American values, capitalism, democracy, freedom, etc.?

So, couldn't we argue that after DACA students are educated here in the USA for free, exporting educated & political active young people to their home countries -- Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. -- will allow them the chance to stabilize and fix their homeland?

That doesn't happen.

Bologne. Illinois flagship campus has over 10,000 international students. Kids in Illinois find themselves getting rejected and paying out of state tuition at Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State.

Same thing was happening in the Cal-system.

Can you show some proof for everything you stated. Foreign students pay full tuition and subsidize the education of us citizens .

Really. Where was my subsidy for my two students? I guess I'll have to wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Obama's father part of an experiment to educate thousands of Kenyans, who would then return home and fix their country?

And we allow so many Far East and Arabic international students in our top universities (who take seats away from American students) under belief it's good for these students to steep in America, taking with them progressive American values, capitalism, democracy, freedom, etc.?

So, couldn't we argue that after DACA students are educated here in the USA for free, exporting educated & political active young people to their home countries -- Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. -- will allow them the chance to stabilize and fix their homeland?

That doesn't happen.

Bologne. Illinois flagship campus has over 10,000 international students. Kids in Illinois find themselves getting rejected and paying out of state tuition at Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State.

Same thing was happening in the Cal-system.

Can you show some proof for everything you stated. Foreign students pay full tuition and subsidize the education of us citizens .

Really. Where was my subsidy for my two students? I guess I'll have to wait.

If this is the logic you can muster while not being able to prove your statement then you are beyond reason. Going by your logic, you are paying taxes right NOW tell me what portion of that tax is used to pay for the road in your neighborhood.
http://www.businessinsider.com/foreign-students-pay-up-to-three-times-as-much-for-tuition-at-us-public-colleges-2016-9

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

I do fund the wall with forty percent of my paycheck in the form of taxes. Why don't you fund planned abortionhood through go fund me!

Really? Isn't Mexico supposed to pay for the wall? Now you are saying you are paying for the wall. You've been conned but then you can't figure that out.

Well the majority of TAX paying Americans don't want to pay for a stupid wall. In a democracy the majority wins. If you want the wall then beg Mexico to pay for it or the so called billionaire can pay for it or you guys can crowd source.

Below is the survey results. I know you will say it is fake because for you anything that goes against your belief is fake. You don't realize you are the fake.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/24/trump-says-his-base-really-wants-a-border-wall-polls-show-most-americans-dont/?utm_term=.1c1394632e83

[Anonymous]

Most people don't participate in surveys. The Washington Post has a story on a neighborhood in Baytown-near Houston. 40 houses uphill ok-30 damaged, 1 a total loss. Look up the addresses on a fema map [kindly out of date so people have lower risk].

So we know much of the land should not be built on and there are about 600,000 illegals in Houston proper. So subtract out any housing stock for illegals ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wasn't Obama's father part of an experiment to educate thousands of Kenyans, who would then return home and fix their country?

And we allow so many Far East and Arabic international students in our top universities (who take seats away from American students) under belief it's good for these students to steep in America, taking with them progressive American values, capitalism, democracy, freedom, etc.?

So, couldn't we argue that after DACA students are educated here in the USA for free, exporting educated & political active young people to their home countries -- Mexico, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, etc. -- will allow them the chance to stabilize and fix their homeland?

That doesn't happen.

Bologne. Illinois flagship campus has over 10,000 international students. Kids in Illinois find themselves getting rejected and paying out of state tuition at Indiana, Iowa, Michigan State.

Same thing was happening in the Cal-system.

Can you show some proof for everything you stated. Foreign students pay full tuition and subsidize the education of us citizens .

Really. Where was my subsidy for my two students? I guess I'll have to wait.

DP.... you don't seem to realize that the college costs for your kids would be even more without foreign students paying what they do.

The reasons why colleges are more and more reliant on foreign students are because:

1. cost of tuition has skyrocketed due to general higher costs of everything and because Rs keep defunding education
2. there are just more Americans wanting to go to college

Also, there are only a handful of states that allow illegal immigrants to receive in state tuition, TX being one of them and the first one to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people don't participate in surveys. The Washington Post has a story on a neighborhood in Baytown-near Houston. 40 houses uphill ok-30 damaged, 1 a total loss. Look up the addresses on a fema map [kindly out of date so people have lower risk].

So we know much of the land should not be built on and there are about 600,000 illegals in Houston proper. So subtract out any housing stock for illegals ...

You are an idiot and problem is even idots get to spew their idiocy in forums thinking they are some smart intelligentsia.

You have no clue about even the basics of surveys and polls clearly exposed by you saying " most people don't participate in surveys". And then you went on to talk crap about something unintelligible. The saving grace America gets smarter immigrants to replace idiots all the time. Good bye.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entire program was an executive overreach on the part of Obama.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/26/trump-not-king-we-must-phase-out-daca-and-return-rule-law-column/488732001/

another executive order that no one voted for.

we tried amnesty in the 80's it failed.

time to build the wall.

Why don't you trumpsters fund the wall using go fund my wall or something. There is no money for a stupid wall when electronic surveillance(with drones and satellites) does a much better job for much lower cost.

Also you have a major logic fail. Building a wall doesn't do anything to illegal immigrants already here. Besides most of them come on a plane and simply over stayed the VISA. The smarter thing is to just let them be tax paying residents with a SSN rather than non tax paying residents about whom we have no clue about.

I do fund the wall with forty percent of my paycheck in the form of taxes. Why don't you fund planned abortionhood through go fund me!

Please secede already. Why don't you become a soverign citizen already?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people don't participate in surveys. The Washington Post has a story on a neighborhood in Baytown-near Houston. 40 houses uphill ok-30 damaged, 1 a total loss. Look up the addresses on a fema map [kindly out of date so people have lower risk].

So we know much of the land should not be built on and there are about 600,000 illegals in Houston proper. So subtract out any housing stock for illegals ...

You are an idiot and problem is even idots get to spew their idiocy in forums thinking they are some smart intelligentsia.

You have no clue about even the basics of surveys and polls clearly exposed by you saying " most people don't participate in surveys". And then you went on to talk crap about something unintelligible. The saving grace America gets smarter immigrants to replace idiots all the time. Good bye.

What is unintelligible about 40 houses uphill NOT flooding and 31 downhill to a bayou flooding? Illegal immigrants live somewhere and therefore use available housing stock. They deserve rescues and shelters but not any funding for losses and replacement housing. As per fema they have to have an anchor in the household. DACA's can be old enough to have produced anchors.

You are an individual who has no clue about resource allocation. Land and housing in an area that has 3 500 year floods or more in a few years? If there are 1000 units available for displaced persons and 1500 family units need housing should any units go to illegals? no.

DACA does have an endpoint on applications. The oldest had to have been born after June 15, 1981 and been continuously residing in the USA from June 15, 2007 through June 15 , 2012. Since I'm now considered an idiot please direct me to any DACA anchor baby estimates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people don't participate in surveys. The Washington Post has a story on a neighborhood in Baytown-near Houston. 40 houses uphill ok-30 damaged, 1 a total loss. Look up the addresses on a fema map [kindly out of date so people have lower risk].

So we know much of the land should not be built on and there are about 600,000 illegals in Houston proper. So subtract out any housing stock for illegals ...

You are an idiot and problem is even idots get to spew their idiocy in forums thinking they are some smart intelligentsia.

You have no clue about even the basics of surveys and polls clearly exposed by you saying " most people don't participate in surveys". And then you went on to talk crap about something unintelligible. The saving grace America gets smarter immigrants to replace idiots all the time. Good bye.

What is unintelligible about 40 houses uphill NOT flooding and 31 downhill to a bayou flooding? Illegal immigrants live somewhere and therefore use available housing stock. They deserve rescues and shelters but not any funding for losses and replacement housing. As per fema they have to have an anchor in the household. DACA's can be old enough to have produced anchors.

You are an individual who has no clue about resource allocation. Land and housing in an area that has 3 500 year floods or more in a few years? If there are 1000 units available for displaced persons and 1500 family units need housing should any units go to illegals? no.

DACA does have an endpoint on applications. The oldest had to have been born after June 15, 1981 and been continuously residing in the USA from June 15, 2007 through June 15 , 2012. Since I'm now considered an idiot please direct me to any DACA anchor baby estimates.

I do agree that we should make sure every American family has housing before we start with the illegal immigrants.