Anti-Muslim encounter at Reston Trader Joe's

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is weird... I'm white and I don't doubt for one second what is happening here---however, we are missing the first piece that led up to whatever happened. Either there was a) some sort of altercation that had the woman acting out and revealing her racist thoughts in anger or b) she is mentally insane, spewing racist horrible things like some kind of psycho at random people in line. Because it IS NOT NORMAL to act like that.

What's really sad is that I didn't think she was crazy when she said that Obama was a Muslim - because there are so many deluded people who hold that view. It was only when she said that Obama was going to jail that I thought she was crazy.

[Anonymous]

I think the woman taking the video tells her friend "I wish you hadnt let that woman cut in line" and the lady overhead that and as a retort said "well I wish they hadn't let you in the country."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if this is legit.
1. It seems unusual that the blonde woman hasn't been identified yet.
2. The video was originally shared by a comedian who makes it clear that he wants to be credited as the original source (driving immense traffic to his FB page).
3. Th woman who took the video isn't giving any interviews or identifying herself.
4. No news sources have been able to confirm the story with anyone other than the comedian.
I don't doubt whatsoever that this kind of stuff happens every day and I don't fault the woman who took the video for not wanting the attention, but all these things combined don't add up to me.

Man. The level of denial by white people about obviously provable facts is astounding, once they have the benefit of anonymity.

Stuff like this happens on a daily basis in America. Perpetrated by white people. Go talk to some Muslim, brown or black friends about this, if you have any.

It says "I don't doubt whatsoever that this kind of stuff happens every day". How does wondering if a (white)
comedian might be making up a story to garner attention to his website equal denial about xenophobia?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if this is legit.
1. It seems unusual that the blonde woman hasn't been identified yet.
2. The video was originally shared by a comedian who makes it clear that he wants to be credited as the original source (driving immense traffic to his FB page).
3. Th woman who took the video isn't giving any interviews or identifying herself.
4. No news sources have been able to confirm the story with anyone other than the comedian.
I don't doubt whatsoever that this kind of stuff happens every day and I don't fault the woman who took the video for not wanting the attention, but all these things combined don't add up to me.

I actually saw it posted on FB by a friend who was sharing the post of the videographer's husband... He posted the video, tagged Trader's Joe's, and wrote the story of what had happened according to his wife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if this is legit.
1. It seems unusual that the blonde woman hasn't been identified yet.
2. The video was originally shared by a comedian who makes it clear that he wants to be credited as the original source (driving immense traffic to his FB page).
3. Th woman who took the video isn't giving any interviews or identifying herself.
4. No news sources have been able to confirm the story with anyone other than the comedian.
I don't doubt whatsoever that this kind of stuff happens every day and I don't fault the woman who took the video for not wanting the attention, but all these things combined don't add up to me.

I actually saw it posted on FB by a friend who was sharing the post of the videographer's husband... He posted the video, tagged Trader's Joe's, and wrote the story of what had happened according to his wife.

I saw that too, but that profile was relatively anonymous. I don't know. Maybe the blonde lady is a shut in and rarely leaves the house so no one knows who she is or maybe her family and friends are all staying quiet about who she is to protect her from the backlash. At any rate, Jeremy McLellan says he probably won't out her even if he does find out who she is because "passions are high and he doesn't want to be responsible for something happening to her". (Per his FB page).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if this is legit.
1. It seems unusual that the blonde woman hasn't been identified yet.
2. The video was originally shared by a comedian who makes it clear that he wants to be credited as the original source (driving immense traffic to his FB page).
3. Th woman who took the video isn't giving any interviews or identifying herself.
4. No news sources have been able to confirm the story with anyone other than the comedian.
I don't doubt whatsoever that this kind of stuff happens every day and I don't fault the woman who took the video for not wanting the attention, but all these things combined don't add up to me.

Man. The level of denial by white people about obviously provable facts is astounding, once they have the benefit of anonymity.

Stuff like this happens on a daily basis in America. Perpetrated by white people. Go talk to some Muslim, brown or black friends about this, if you have any.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445495/bogus-hate-crimes-trump-conservatives

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:This whole thing is weird... I'm white and I don't doubt for one second what is happening here---however, we are missing the first piece that led up to whatever happened. Either there was a) some sort of altercation that had the woman acting out and revealing her racist thoughts in anger or b) she is mentally insane, spewing racist horrible things like some kind of psycho at random people in line. Because it IS NOT NORMAL to act like that.

I explained how this was initiated in the original post of this thread, but I'll do it again (all of this is according to the Facebook post which, of course, could be inaccurate):

1) Muslim Woman A allowed White Woman A to cut in line in front of her;

2) White Woman A, not knowing that Muslim Woman A is Muslim, pointed to Muslim Woman B who was elsewhere in the store and wearing traditional Muslim attire and made a disparaging remark about Muslims;

3) Muslim Woman A then engaged White Woman A in a discussion in which White Woman A made additional anti-Muslim remarks;

4) Muslim Woman A then said, "I wish I hadn't let you into line" and White Woman A replied, "I wish they hadn't let you into the country". The rest is in the video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to wonder if this is legit.
1. It seems unusual that the blonde woman hasn't been identified yet.
2. The video was originally shared by a comedian who makes it clear that he wants to be credited as the original source (driving immense traffic to his FB page).
3. Th woman who took the video isn't giving any interviews or identifying herself.
4. No news sources have been able to confirm the story with anyone other than the comedian.
I don't doubt whatsoever that this kind of stuff happens every day and I don't fault the woman who took the video for not wanting the attention, but all these things combined don't add up to me.

I actually saw it posted on FB by a friend who was sharing the post of the videographer's husband... He posted the video, tagged Trader's Joe's, and wrote the story of what had happened according to his wife.

Is there an actual crime here? What is tarder Joe's supposed to do?

I didn't get all offended when a black guy told my asian elementary aged kids that white people ain't shit , Fuck Trump. I just thought the guy was an idiot for assuming they were white. I guess we should film everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope someone recognizes her. Could she be mentally ill? Regardless, she doesn't need to be around kids. If she really is a teacher, she needs to be fired.

Why is this always the go-to excuse when it's a white person spewing/doing crazy, hatelful things?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have never liked Reston.

You're welcome to your feelings, of course, although this woman's behavior seems so atypical. I'm a short-term Reston resident and was very surprised to see where the incident takes place, given what I've experienced here.

Lol. I'm a long-time Reston resident and I burst out laughing when I read "I have never liked Reston." Reston getting a bad rap on more than one forum.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope someone recognizes her. Could she be mentally ill? Regardless, she doesn't need to be around kids. If she really is a teacher, she needs to be fired.

Why is this always the go-to excuse when it's a white person spewing/doing crazy, hatelful things?

Many white (specifically white conservative Christian) people like to think there's something wrong with other backgrounds - they're genetically inferior. They're cultural degenerates. They're backwards. As such, they're thugs, they're terrorists, they're criminals and dangerous and their background makes them that way.

Being white (and specifically, white conservative Christian) is a superior state of being, so when they do something not-so-good that means they are mentally ill - they can't help it. They are not inferior, but they are sad and tragically broken and need help.

It's obviously BS.

fwiw, I'm mixed - one side is very white, the other is very brown/Muslim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all of you who think that this woman is just mentally disturbed - I think you need to get outside of your bubble. I have a "friend" who is EXACTLY like this. She is someone I knew from my college days, who I am still friends with on FB but rarely ever see.

This woman lives in a suburb of Montgomery county (down 270 - think exit 13ish), a WFHM, she is super active in her kids' schools (room parent) - born and raised close to where she lives now. She has always been opinionated and had no problem expressing herself. She frequently would say outrageous things - but back when we hung out socially it was never racist. However, over the last few years she has increasingly put more and more racists and anti-muslim posts on her FB page. She posted about the Rockville illegal immigrant student acussed of rape (charges now dropped) and used it as an excuse to rail against immigration policies. She hates Obama and hates Hillary even more. She would UNQUESTIONABLY be the type of person to do something just like this. She is sane, she is respected in her little bubble and she is teaching her three kids to be racist just like her.

You guys need to know that there are many people out there just like her. They may not live in downtown DC but they don't all live in Kansas or Ohio either. Don't fool yourself that someone has to be mentally ill to pull this off.

If you are wondering why I'm still following her on FB - it's because I really want to know what people like her are thinking. I want to understand how we can be so fundamentally different. This is a person I used to genuinely like. I still don't have any answers but wanted to share - she's not crazy and she's not alone.

+1. I posted about this before but I lost a life long friend who went through a similar "transformation" driven by Facebook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This woman is not mentally ill. She is like almost half the country who voted for Trump. She is just saying what they think. Shameful. I hope she loses her job. Kudos to be victim for not smacking her. I don't think i would have had that much self-control.

This is just not true.... and you know it.
If it were, this type of post would be commonplace. It isn’t.
She was hateful, bigoted, ill-informed, and just an ugly person.
Most of the people I know who voted for Trump would condemn this type of behavior.
And, maybe if you actually talked to someone who voted for Trump, you could ask them what they think. Because, this isn’t it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope someone recognizes her. Could she be mentally ill? Regardless, she doesn't need to be around kids. If she really is a teacher, she needs to be fired.

Why is this always the go-to excuse when it's a white person spewing/doing crazy, hatelful things?

It's a go to excuse for people to explain a lot of groups. E.g., that person did something because of his "crazy" religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This woman is not mentally ill. She is like almost half the country who voted for Trump. She is just saying what they think. Shameful. I hope she loses her job. Kudos to be victim for not smacking her. I don't think i would have had that much self-control.

This is just not true.... and you know it.
If it were, this type of post would be commonplace. It isn’t.
She was hateful, bigoted, ill-informed, and just an ugly person.
Most of the people I know who voted for Trump would condemn this type of behavior.
And, maybe if you actually talked to someone who voted for Trump, you could ask them what they think. Because, this isn’t it.

What are you smoking.