do you look down on homeschooling moms?

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Anonymous wrote:When I had no kids of my own, I looked down on homeschoolers. Nine years later my child is in the 4th grade. The child spent K-3 grades in public schools, but now in the 4th grade we started to homeschool. Why? My husband and I realized that public schools are not meeting our expectations. The child attended four different public schools (three in FCPS, one in a different state, all were highly ranked), as we moved several times. Only two had good teachers, the curriculum was terrible everywhere (it does include the AAP, although the AAP is certainly better than the non-AAP version). My husband and I taught at several top-ranked universities (STEM fields) in the U.S. for over a decade, and could not understand why our seemingly bright students had such poor knowledge of background subject matter, as well as an inability to think. Anything that went beyond solving elementary recipe-driven problems was impossible for them to do, but now we understand the causes behind this phenomenon better. We cannot allow our child to receive worse education than the one we ourselves got 30 years ago in a third-world country. We decided to stop waiting for schools to educate our child, so now we homeschool.

When we were growing up, we were lucky to have some amazing teachers at the schools we attended, who were not only experts in their fields but could also inspire kids to learn. I would like my child to have a chance to meet such teachers, if possible. This means that we will re-enroll our child in public schools periodically in the hopes of lucking out on a great teacher, [u]but, if not, we can and will give a much better education at home. Nor are we averse to hiring great private instructors or joining group lessons, when the teachers and subject matter are worth it, which makes it closer to a private school experience, but at a fraction of the cost and with hand-picked teachers.

A lot was said about socialization. Well... our child is doing sports (4 hours per day), plus a number of other enrichment activities (not to mention, playdates), which involve interaction with other kids, so the topic is moot for us.

It is ironic that, only 3-4 years ago, we were like many of you in your attitudes toward homeschooling. In reality homeschooling is amazing if (and it's a big 'if') the parents are educated and care about their children's education. But it could also be a complete disaster. However, staying enrolled at public schools can be a disaster too. Either way it's the parents' responsibility to give their child the best secondary education possible. As for socialization issues, forget it... teenagers are socializing through their smartphones these days, regardless of the schooling method.


You had a single AAP teacher if you pulled your child out by fourth grade, so you really don't know what the AAP curriculum is based on a single year. You do sound like one who will put a lot of thought and effort into homeschooling and you had me on your side (for your child) until the bolded part. That's just cray cray. You don't jump in and out (and in and out)...think of your poor child!

I also wonder why your child was in FOUR different public schools in FOUR years (k through 3).


That is correct about a single AAP teacher. The experience could get better with a different teacher in a different grade.
Regarding jumping in and out, if necessary, I don't really see the downside right now. So far, while at public schools, the child had to start the year with a new teacher and a new set of classmates each year (kids were mixed and class assignments were semi-randomized, so there was no stable group of close friends even at the school where the child spent several years in a row). It's ok, as the child has close friends outside the school. The question now is about what to do in those subjects where the child is accelerating much faster than the current curriculum at schools. I would appreciate your thoughts on this and don't mind the criticism. I'd like to understand why you feel that returning to public schools is a bad idea. Our current plan is to homeschool 5th grade, then potentially re-enroll for 6th and 7th grades. If the experience in middle school is positive, then stay. If not, homeschool for 8th grade. Enroll in public school in the 9th grade (1st year of highschool) and, again, either stay for the rest of the highschool years, or do homeschooling, depending on whether the experience is positive or negative overall. If homeschooling during highschool, it would simply mean taking a significant number of college courses.



The moves had to do with changes in job locations of the parents, as well as availability of corporate housing upon relocation, so were unrelated to schools.
Anonymous
I find it really interesting that one thread is critical of homeschooling, while a parallel thread is all about how much parents supplement their child's school day with tutors and workbooks because they are unhappy with the level of education their child is receiving.


We homeschool and like another parent mentioned, I looked down on it as a choice before I had kids. Not that different to
how a childless adult might be critical of a parent whose child is melting down in the grocery store. Changing circumstance sometimes forces you to eat crow.

I will totally agree with you that one of my kids is socially awkward, but she's always been that way. Her neuropsych would support the argument that it's not homeschooling that made her socially awkward. Some of you see anecdotal evidence that homeschooling leads to socially awkward children, but there's no evidence the link is causation.

Btw, to the PP who said homeschoolers don't actually do all those field trips, we do and I see many other families like us at museums and performances on a regular basis.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. But I do wonder about their kids social skills.


Same.
Anonymous
My best friend home schools her children. She has two very bright children, one of whom is on the spectrum. Unfortunately, he experienced a lot of bullying which the school did nothing to address or control, and she felt she had no choice but to withdraw him. She has a set schedule and curriculum and her children are also able to listen to her and work independently when needed. They participate in other educational groups as needed and do all sorts of sports, music and chess lessons, etc. Her kids are perfectly fine socially (the one on the spectrum does have a few social issues that exist regardless of being in school or not). The nice thing is that she's able to take them on so many more field trips to actually experience what they're learning about. She does find in her home school community that they tend to be more conservative and families, where she's a New York liberal.
Anonymous
yes. Most homeschool kids I've met are SUPER RELIGIOUS and/or so socially awkward! I don't think very much of them and I automatically assume the mom is weird too.
Anonymous
I have a friend from high school who was in remedial classes and had pretty severe learning disabilities. She is now super religious and homeschools her 4 children. I judge her a lot. And think her husband is a moron for allowing it.
Anonymous
I judge, I wish I didn't though. Unfortunately, all my experiences with homeschool people have been negative. I'm sure there are plenty out there that are good, just haven't met them yet.
Anonymous
I agree that some parents should never be allowed to homeschool, as they ruin their kids' education. But in other cases homeschooling is a blessing. It is unfortunate, however, if potential stigma stops well educated parents from trying homeschooling for academic reasons, as their kids are missing on some amazing opportunities. There is nothing stopping a parent from trying it, and, if it does not work well, returning his child back to regular school.
Anonymous
No. I don't judge. I can understand why people opt to home school, especially those who do so for religious reasons.

The kids have to pass annual standardized tests. And the home school parents connect with each other and other resources to ensure that their kids are getting a good education and socialization. It's not like they are sitting at home all day watching t.v. and playing video games. For those who take home schooling seriously, it is a lot of (highly rewarding) work. The home schooled kids that I am aware of went to college.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. I don't judge. I can understand why people opt to home school, especially those who do so for religious reasons.

The kids have to pass annual standardized tests. And the home school parents connect with each other and other resources to ensure that their kids are getting a good education and socialization. It's not like they are sitting at home all day watching t.v. and playing video games. For those who take home schooling seriously, it is a lot of (highly rewarding) work. The home schooled kids that I am aware of went to college.



It varies by state. In Virginia, that is not required.
Anonymous
Sometimes, depending on their reasons for home-schooling.

If you're in an area with absymal public schools and can't afford to move or do private, AND you're educated enough to teach well, go for it.

But I have a friend who does it because she "can't bear to let her kids leave her" and this makes me sad for them. Seems unhealthy to me, and I worry about them being isolated. I hope she lets them leave her for college.
Anonymous
Depends on the person, both their motivation for homeschooling and their own education and qualifications.
Anonymous
Education? They have been separated from society. Being with people is the most important education of all. Of course I have no respect for homeschooling
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am neither pro nor con homeschooling. I have seen it work and I have seen it fail. I am concerned, though, that there is no safety net for homeschooled children as related to possible physical, sexual or emotional child abuse in the home. If a child attends a school then there is at least one person, a teacher, who would be able to report possible abuse if signs were observed.


This is how I feel. I've read accounts of self-described "homeschool survivors," and there's no question that homeschooling is used in some instances to hide significant abuse that otherwise would have a chance of being reported.
Anonymous
What gets me is how many parents homeschool that don't have a masters. You can't teach in a school system without a masters so why would less education be ok for homeschooling? Let alone see dont even have bachelors. And most don't have teaching certificates.
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