do you look down on homeschooling moms?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My only exposure to homeschooling was my ultra conservative and religious family members who homeschooled to keep their kids away from the evil heathens at our public school. The parents weren't well educated themselves (barely graduated high school, I'm talking finished by the skin of their teeth here) so the kids learned very little beyond extensive bible study. That colors my thoughts on homeschooling in general and I have a knee jerk negative reaction to it.

This.

Yes, I tend to look down on home schoolers. Because

my SIL who grew up in Lynchburg. She sees eviiiiL in everyone and everywhere. She keeps everyone at home, even her husband works from home!! Talk about controlling. She is very fundamental in her thinking except for fashion. She keeps up with the latest fashion, though.
Anonymous
The ines I know are very weird and stunted socially.
Anonymous
My wife's cousins are homeschooled. I try to keep an open mind, but they do appear to be behind both academically and socially.

On facebook, their mother vehemently defends homeschooling to the point of being annoying. Like, posting a video of their homeschool prom, where kids are sitting around in a circle singing songs from "Frozen" with a caption, "homeschooled kids ARE social!"
Anonymous
https://www.nheri.org/research/nheri-news/homeschool-sat-scores-for-2014-higher-than-national-average.html

On average, homeschoolers perform better than their public school counterparts on standardized tests. This doesn't control for demographic factors, but to say that homeschoolers perform worse on the SAT/ACT is not true. It's just not.
Anonymous
I only look down on them when they generalize about public education. If they don't want me to generalize about them, they should hold their tongue about things they go on by hearsay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I do, yes. I knew a number of homeschoolers of the religious variety growing up. They all liked to talk about how far they were above grade level, but the ones that actually enrolled in school were enrolled a grade behind their age group and weren't exactly academic all stars. Also, yes, they tended to be a bit odd.

I can see some situations where homeschooling can be the best option for a particular child, but I think most kids do better in a more structured school environment.


I'm the 15:07 PP and this was true for my relatives as well. Constant talk about how the kids were just so advanced and how homeschooling was providing a much better education than the school could. My relatives would try putting their kids in public school every few years or so (the mom was and is a hypochondriac so it usually coincided with her deciding she had one major illness or another and needed rest) and the kids would be so far behind, they ended up in classes grades below kids their own ages. This was, of course, all just a grand conspiracy to punish homeschoolers according to my relatives and the kids would be taken back out quickly (usually right around the mid-year report cards when it was clear the kids were failing all their classes except for gym).
Anonymous
I think it depends on their reasons. I homeschooled for a year when we lived in MOCO. We thought the schools were going to be great. To say we were disappointed would be an understatement. I put my kids back in public as soon as we found a house in Fairfax. If we had been stuck in MOCO, I would have joined a homeschool group and continued home school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nheri.org/research/nheri-news/homeschool-sat-scores-for-2014-higher-than-national-average.html

On average, homeschoolers perform better than their public school counterparts on standardized tests. This doesn't control for demographic factors, but to say that homeschoolers perform worse on the SAT/ACT is not true. It's just not.


Well, your article said that homeschoolers performed better on the SAT, and that demographically their parents were college educated.

The article doesn't mention homeschoolers who take the ACT or do not take the SAT/ACT and/or are not college bound. Do most homeschooled children take the SAT and go to college or do most homeschooled children not take the SAT?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nheri.org/research/nheri-news/homeschool-sat-scores-for-2014-higher-than-national-average.html

On average, homeschoolers perform better than their public school counterparts on standardized tests. This doesn't control for demographic factors, but to say that homeschoolers perform worse on the SAT/ACT is not true. It's just not.


Do you know how they go to the test scores for the homeschool population? I can follow the total population scores to the College Board website easily by clicking the link, but my googling and searching on the College Board website hasn't turned anything up for this reference: College Board. (2014a). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors state profile report, U.S. home school students. New York, NY: Author.

It kind of looks like the author is only using results from NY? Or maybe ran his own analysis and came up with something? I can't follow.
Anonymous
I honestly don't know any.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I do, yes. I knew a number of homeschoolers of the religious variety growing up. They all liked to talk about how far they were above grade level, but the ones that actually enrolled in school were enrolled a grade behind their age group and weren't exactly academic all stars. Also, yes, they tended to be a bit odd.

I can see some situations where homeschooling can be the best option for a particular child, but I think most kids do better in a more structured school environment.


I'm the 15:07 PP and this was true for my relatives as well. Constant talk about how the kids were just so advanced and how homeschooling was providing a much better education than the school could. My relatives would try putting their kids in public school every few years or so (the mom was and is a hypochondriac so it usually coincided with her deciding she had one major illness or another and needed rest) and the kids would be so far behind, they ended up in classes grades below kids their own ages. This was, of course, all just a grand conspiracy to punish homeschoolers according to my relatives and the kids would be taken back out quickly (usually right around the mid-year report cards when it was clear the kids were failing all their classes except for gym).


Yes. This! I wonder if we have the same relatives.
Anonymous
I work with someone whose wife homeschools five of their six kids (one is not school age yet). There's no way they are all getting a full education. And on top of that, she recently started working part time. They are super religious and have no money (ergo her returning to work).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No. But I do wonder about their kids social skills.

I'm not sure I understand how sitting in a classroom with 30 kids of the same age does a better job of preparing children for the real world and social skills than that of homeschoolers who have much more free time to go out and participate in the real world by going to parks, libraries, museums, farms, rec centers, etc. and interacting with people of all ages.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.nheri.org/research/nheri-news/homeschool-sat-scores-for-2014-higher-than-national-average.html

On average, homeschoolers perform better than their public school counterparts on standardized tests. This doesn't control for demographic factors, but to say that homeschoolers perform worse on the SAT/ACT is not true. It's just not.


Do you know how they go to the test scores for the homeschool population? I can follow the total population scores to the College Board website easily by clicking the link, but my googling and searching on the College Board website hasn't turned anything up for this reference: College Board. (2014a). SAT 2014 college-bound seniors state profile report, U.S. home school students. New York, NY: Author.

It kind of looks like the author is only using results from NY? Or maybe ran his own analysis and came up with something? I can't follow.


Same here, I can't find the results he's claiming show homeschoolers do better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Or at least think their kids are receiving an inferior education?


Not the ones who actually do it... But I know several who SAY they are homeschooling but really aren't doing jack shit, and yes, I think they're screwing their kids.

They're balanced by a couple of truly dedicated ones whose kids are wicked advanced. I give them props.

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