To a Jewish woman would you be offended?

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Anonymous wrote:Catholics only want their children to marry Catholics or at least bring their children up as Catholics if they marry out. Other religions are the same way. Don't say this is exclusive to Jews. This attitude/practice is pervasive among many religions and cultures. I love how people want to put Jews down for wanting to carry on their religion when this happens across the board. Hell, some Muslims murder people for not being Muslim. That's worse than wanting to marry someone from your own religion. I really don't see a problem with wanting to marry within your own faith.

Bull on the Catholic thing- raised and grew up in a Catholic community that is simply untrue. For every Catholic who pressures a non Catholic fiancé to convert rest assured there are 30 Jewish people in that same scenario- where have you been???

Not bull. I have spoken to tons of Catholics who have either made their spouse convert or at least promise to raise their children as Catholics or they wouldn't marry the person. Stop vilifying Jews. Where have YOU been?????? See, I put more question marks than you! Ha!

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I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

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Anonymous wrote:Eh.... as a Jew I find this kind of thing par for the course. It's inappropriate but I would know it wasn't badly meant, just stupidly put

+1

+2 and I'm not even stereotypically Jewish looking. (People always say "wait, you're Jewish!?") People say stupid stuff, but if it's kindly meant, that's the main thing.

? Isn't that f'ed up? Why wouldn't it be kind to say you look Jewish?

Well, maybe it's neutral rather than unkind, but often people saying "oh you don't look Jewish" mean "oh you don't have a huge nose" or some other unflattering thing - frizzy dark hair, etc. It's also just ignorant because although, as a Jew, I admit that there is a Jewish "look" that some Jews have, Jews really do come in all shapes and sizes. I'm a blonde haired, blue eyed Jew - i'm often asked if I'm Russian, actually, so there's always a stereotype somewhere. (My grandparents did come from Russia (and Poland) but of course in those countries would not have been considered ethnically Russian, but Jewish.)

PP you're quoting and I didn't mean it would be kind or unkind to say one looks Jewish or not -- just that I would not necessarily read anything insulting into it either way. People can be awkward without meaning to be. I am frequently asked if I am Scottish, Irish, English, etc. I have fair/rosy skin, green eyes, light brown hair that is wavy but not curly or frizzy. Small nose. Average height, not skinny. I could be "anything" really (of Caucasian ancestry anyway) and no one ever guesses Jewish. My ancestry is also Eastern European (Russia, Poland, Hungary) but no one guesses those either!

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It's such an obnoxious thing to say and here's my response: Look Jewish like this?
Natalie Portman
Mila Kunis
Rachel Weisz
Lauren Bacall
Gal Gadot
Scarlett Johanson and .........................

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

Sorry but if you want to emigrate to Israel you have to show you were born of a jewish mother. If you were not you have to go through conversion before you can get an id card that identified you as jewish
Only jewish born and conversion through orthodoxy is recognized in Israel. The law of halacha

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Your view of Judaism and conversion is out of date among most Jewish denominations.

Generally, people of any faith who think their faith helps them lead a good life want the same for their kids. That is true of Catholics, and the rest.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

Sorry but if you want to emigrate to Israel you have to show you were born of a jewish mother. If you were not you have to go through conversion before you can get an id card that identified you as jewish
Only jewish born and conversion through orthodoxy is recognized in Israel. The law of halacha

Well it's a good thing we live in the States where who is a Jew doesn't come into play.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

Sorry but if you want to emigrate to Israel you have to show you were born of a jewish mother. If you were not you have to go through conversion before you can get an id card that identified you as jewish
Only jewish born and conversion through orthodoxy is recognized in Israel. The law of halacha

Who's emigrating to Israel?

"Sorry, but" I provided a link to the rule as decided by the American Reform rabbinate. I don't care what's recognized in Israel. FWIW, both of my parents are Jewish.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

Actually the original resolution passed by the Reform rabbis said that if one parent is Jewish AND the child is raised Jewish, which means being educated in the Jewish religion and NOT being raised in another religion then the child is Jewish (note, that means for some people with a Jewish mother and a gentile father, it is possible to be recognized as Jewish by Conservative and Orthodo but NOT by Reform) though I think in practice those strictures are often not applied - not sure if Reform ever formally relaxed the requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

Sorry but if you want to emigrate to Israel you have to show you were born of a jewish mother. If you were not you have to go through conversion before you can get an id card that identified you as jewish
Only jewish born and conversion through orthodoxy is recognized in Israel. The law of halacha

For many years conversions done OUTSIDE Israel by non-O rabbis were accepted, and IIUC that is still a somewhat legally complex area.

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

I have known converts who have leadership roles in Conservative synagogues, who have become rabbis, etc. I am sorry if there are some communities (or is it just some individuals) who are not accepting of converts, but from what I have seen most communities are very accepting.

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OP, I would choose to not be offended. So many here look for reasons to be offended. Do the right thing and don't look for that, and if there's a little ignorance out there, forgive and educate them. These are your friends and they care about you and your feelings. Just let them know if they have said something hurtful. I am sure you would get a quick loving apology. No big deal.

Now, these are words to live by. Truly!

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Anonymous wrote:I think you are completely missing the point. Catholics raising their kids catholic cannot really be compared to Judaism.
In some sects of Judaism you cannot be jewish if you are not born jewish from a jewish mother. Gentile women marrying jews have a very hard time being accepted, some are not even accepted if they convert, and conversion to Judaism is not a simple matter.
For some strange reason jewish women marrying outside the religion is more accepted, most likely because the kids are still born jewish.
I would not get involved in organizing blind dates to anyone. A single jewish woman would most likely be interested in a single jewish man, but unless you know her well, I would keep out

Fixed that for you. Not all sects of Judaism believe this. Reform Jews, for example, believe that if either of your parents is Jewish, you're Jewish. http://www.reformjudaism.org/practice/ask-rabbi/i-have-jewish-mother-and-christian-father-what-am-i

Sorry but if you want to emigrate to Israel you have to show you were born of a jewish mother. If you were not you have to go through conversion before you can get an id card that identified you as jewish
Only jewish born and conversion through orthodoxy is recognized in Israel. The law of halacha

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And that is a political choice i. A country that does not permit the separation of church and state. Judaism is neither owned nor controlled by the Israeli rabbinate.

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Anonymous wrote:Your friend is inappropriate. I'm not sure what her goal was by telling your other friend that her male friend is not attracted to "typical looking Jewish women." I sure wouldn't want to date a jerk like him. Wouldn't that be a turnoff? Why would she even bring him up in the first place? She is making him out to be a complete and utter ass.

So many Jewish guys are like this. My ex was Jewish and he dated me because he liked how I looked. He would tell me that his parents wanted him to marry someone Jewish but he did not think they were pretty enough for him. He would make me feel like shit because I was not Jewish and the Jewish girls he met feel like shit because he didn't think they were attractive enough for him. Looking back it makes me sick I spent time with this jerk.

I have met my share of these guys. It is like they are conflicted. They obsess about European women with blond hair and certain features, but want to brag about how great Jews are.